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any answer short of "hell %^#* no" when asked if he was sexually attracted to young boys is unacceptable.
he was stammering
he was stammering
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Originally Posted by DoubleJs07
Did you listen to the interview? Dude sounded AWFUL....Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican
And what would yelling do? I mean you are in a lose lose situation. If you are calm, then people assume what you are assuming. If you yell, I would assume you are trying too hard.Originally Posted by DoubleJs07
Sandusky didn't sound convincing at all. If it was me and I was accused of crimes that I KNEW I didn't commit, I would have been yelling my %%% off PLEADING my innocence.
Showering naked w/ 10 year old boys and towel whipping constitutes "horseplay???" Again...if I knew I was 100% innocent I would have done a better job of pleading my case.
http://rockcenter.msnbc.msn.com/_ne...view-i-shouldnt-have-showered-with-those-kidsOriginally Posted by 5am6oody72
Am I absolutely incompetent or is the full interview with Bob Costas NOWHERE online? I've spent the past 10 minutes or so looking for it and can't find it anywhere.
Exactly, if someone ask you, "are you attracted to little boys" and you have to stop to repeat the question, "am I attracted to little boys?" while trying to think up how best to answer what should be a simple yes or no question...... SMH.Originally Posted by AG 47
Originally Posted by DoubleJs07
Did you listen to the interview? Dude sounded AWFUL....Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican
And what would yelling do? I mean you are in a lose lose situation. If you are calm, then people assume what you are assuming. If you yell, I would assume you are trying too hard.
Showering naked w/ 10 year old boys and towel whipping constitutes "horseplay???" Again...if I knew I was 100% innocent I would have done a better job of pleading my case.
I mean...it's even more basic than that. He straight up admitted he was in the shower with little boys. It doesn't take a detective to come to the conclusion he was doing more with little boys if he admitted to showering with them. That's just not a good look. And whenever you have to stall by repeating the question, you're about to lie. Body language from that interview spoke loud and clear.
Originally Posted by Elpablo21
http://rockcenter.msnbc.msn.com/_ne...view-i-shouldnt-have-showered-with-those-kidsOriginally Posted by 5am6oody72
Am I absolutely incompetent or is the full interview with Bob Costas NOWHERE online? I've spent the past 10 minutes or so looking for it and can't find it anywhere.
Originally Posted by DoubleJs07
@PeterAlexander
Peter Alexander
# BREAKING (2) McQueary: "... the truth is not out there fully... I didn't just turn and run... I made sure it stopped..."
1 hour ago via Twitter for BlackBerry[emoji]174[/emoji]
Again, if the world thinks you are guilty, nothing you can say is really an example of "doing a better job of pleading your case."Originally Posted by DoubleJs07
Did you listen to the interview? Dude sounded AWFUL....Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican
And what would yelling do? I mean you are in a lose lose situation. If you are calm, then people assume what you are assuming. If you yell, I would assume you are trying too hard.Originally Posted by DoubleJs07
Sandusky didn't sound convincing at all. If it was me and I was accused of crimes that I KNEW I didn't commit, I would have been yelling my %%% off PLEADING my innocence.
Showering naked w/ 10 year old boys and towel whipping constitutes "horseplay???" Again...if I knew I was 100% innocent I would have done a better job of pleading my case.
I'm not trying to derail the thread by throwing my personal stuff out there, but sucfice it to say both my paternal and maternal sides of the family are extremely dysfunctional, for two different reasons. Physical abuse and severe tempers run deep in my dad's side of the family, and sexual abuse and heavy drug use run DEEP in my mom's side of the family. Some of the siblings that have ostracized my brother were also sexually abused by my mom's husband, and they are now grown adults who would rather everyone keep pretending nothing ever happened.Originally Posted by NikeTalker23
Originally Posted by 23ska909red02
Oh make no mistake, my brother knew I had his back when he was telling me what he was going to do a couple years ago, and he knows I have his back now. I have told everyone in my family… through FB, texts, phone calls, and a couple people in person… that I have deep respect and appreciation for my brother, and that if they want nothing to do w/ him, then I want nothing to do them. And I know JoePa got wind of stories like this just like you guys are all reading about it, and he saw the way things unfolded just the same way you guys ade all reading me tell you how it has all unfolded in my family. I know he knew about these kinds of stories and decided to stay on the figurative sidelines; I just don't care.Originally Posted by cRazy dav0
not sure if this is my place to say ... but i hope u stood up for ur brother and called out every single member of your family that has taken sides the husband for what he did to the young girl ... b/c i'm truly disgusted by ur story ... our society is so backwards at times ... people that do the right thing get treated as if they did the crime
I don't get it.. My family would have done the complete opposite. Something similar happened with my sisters ex, and we ALL cut him off.
Originally Posted by 23ska909red02
I'm not trying to derail the thread by throwing my personal stuff out there, but sucfice it to say both my paternal and maternal sides of the family are extremely dysfunctional, for two different reasons. Physical abuse and severe tempers run deep in my dad's side of the family, and sexual abuse and heavy drug use run DEEP in my mom's side of the family. Some of the siblings that have ostracized my brother were also sexually abused by my mom's husband, and they are now grown adults who would rather everyone keep pretending nothing ever happened.Originally Posted by NikeTalker23
Originally Posted by 23ska909red02
Oh make no mistake, my brother knew I had his back when he was telling me what he was going to do a couple years ago, and he knows I have his back now. I have told everyone in my family… through FB, texts, phone calls, and a couple people in person… that I have deep respect and appreciation for my brother, and that if they want nothing to do w/ him, then I want nothing to do them. And I know JoePa got wind of stories like this just like you guys are all reading about it, and he saw the way things unfolded just the same way you guys ade all reading me tell you how it has all unfolded in my family. I know he knew about these kinds of stories and decided to stay on the figurative sidelines; I just don't care.
I don't get it.. My family would have done the complete opposite. Something similar happened with my sisters ex, and we ALL cut him off.
Mike and Mike had Roger Cossack on and said it very well could have been left off (the admission of stopping the incident) as a way for legal maneuvering during the trial on the prosecution's end. Which iif that is the case, seeing what Mike has gone through they need to publically state if what Mike is saying is true or not. Roger says the grand jury has the legal authority to do it too.
Its a cult mentality.Originally Posted by DoubleJs07
This was talked about last night...and I DO see some of the parallels.
In comparison to Michael Jackson, many people who are in his corner are saying the SAME things. "He's just an overgrown kid." We all know the allegations brought against Mike, but people defended his behavior with children till they were blue in the face. %%$+, we had discussions on NT where certain folks thought it was just in Mike's nature to be as affectionate towards children as he was. I even remember a NTer going as far as saying they'd have no problem letting their child spend the night in the neverland ranch w. MJAnyways, I'm wondering (for those who defended Mike), what's your stance on Sandusky?
Originally Posted by 23ska909red02
Oh make no mistake, my brother knew I had his back when he was telling me what he was going to do a couple years ago, and he knows I have his back now. I have told everyone in my family… through FB, texts, phone calls, and a couple people in person… that I have deep respect and appreciation for my brother, and that if they want nothing to do w/ him, then I want nothing to do them. And I know JoePa got wind of stories like this just like you guys are all reading about it, and he saw the way things unfolded just the same way you guys ade all reading me tell you how it has all unfolded in my family. I know he knew about these kinds of stories and decided to stay on the figurative sidelines; I just don't care.Originally Posted by cRazy dav0
not sure if this is my place to say ... but i hope u stood up for ur brother and called out every single member of your family that has taken sides the husband for what he did to the young girl ... b/c i'm truly disgusted by ur story ... our society is so backwards at times ... people that do the right thing get treated as if they did the crime
Originally Posted by DoubleJs07
@PeterAlexander
Peter Alexander
# BREAKING (2) McQueary: "... the truth is not out there fully... I didn't just turn and run... I made sure it stopped..."
1 hour ago via Twitter for BlackBerry[emoji]174[/emoji]
Originally Posted by Deuce King
Originally Posted by DoubleJs07
@PeterAlexander
Peter Alexander
# BREAKING (2) McQueary: "... the truth is not out there fully... I didn't just turn and run... I made sure it stopped..."
1 hour ago via Twitter for BlackBerry[emoji]174[/emoji]
aaaand, I just read that Sandusky's lawyer impregnated a 17yo back in the 90s. He's 63 now.
Ok...here's my thinking now. Suppose McQueary's statement IS true about trying to stop Sandusky. What's his (McQueary's) angle for staying at Penn State? Promises??? Blackmail??? And then, what's Paterno's rationale for KEEPING Sandusky around in addition to the year overlap between telling him he won't be the coach in waiting and when he was discovered to have showered w. the boy???Originally Posted by cRazy dav0
if mcqueary did stop it ... then %#+ .... b/c everyone saw sandusky w/ the little boys on campus years later ... so what gives ... this is the wildest thing ever
i need to get back to skyrim ...
Makes you realize how $%@-backwards some people are...
Indeed. I mean seriously, how many more twists and turns can this story take, and that not even withstanding the original claims by the victims?? The judge who granted Sandusky bail used to work at Sandusky's organization, but did not reveal the conflict of interest at the time. The lawyer representing Sandusky got a 17 year old girl pregnanat in the 90's. Joe Pa gets the boot as head coach but McQueary is only placed on administrative leave. McQueary says he stopped said incident from occuring any further. The DA investigating this case from the start was found "slumped in the trunk" with the hard-drive missing from the laptop. You just know that there are even more strange occurences that are about to be revealed.
Originally Posted by Deuce King
Makes you realize how $%@-backwards some people are...
word ... they need to just go to trial ... the questions ure asking may make this worse ....Originally Posted by DoubleJs07
Ok...here's my thinking now. Suppose McQueary's statement IS true about trying to stop Sandusky. What's his (McQueary's) angle for staying at Penn State? Promises??? Blackmail??? And then, what's Paterno's rationale for KEEPING Sandusky around in addition to the year overlap between telling him he won't be the coach in waiting and when he was discovered to have showered w. the boy???Originally Posted by cRazy dav0
if mcqueary did stop it ... then %#+ .... b/c everyone saw sandusky w/ the little boys on campus years later ... so what gives ... this is the wildest thing ever
i need to get back to skyrim ...
Originally Posted by cmoneymontana
From the outside looking in, it seems that there is a group of these guys up there doing this regularly.
I am sure more people will be exposed when this does go to trial.