The Ultimate Soccer Thread 2012-2013 Vol. 3 Premier League, La Liga, Serie A, Bundesliga etc

I would have to agree here. RVP had a sensational season without the greatest supply either. He literally strapped his team to his shoulders and went to work...
It was also the quality of some of those goals :x

That's a toss up, because Atletico without Falcao would be nowhere near where they are now (Adrian and Turan are talented, but yea...). Have people not seen Falcao before this season? He's been a beast for a long @#$ time now, especially since he joined Porto :x

And yea I agree Pique shouldn't be on there. Ever since he started smashing Shakira he's been good but inconsistent
 
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Marcelo is the best lb in the world though.

Ramos has had a rough year so far for RM. Talk of Jose benching him for Varene.

Xabi? Nah man. Yes he was with Spain this summer for the euros win but over guys like yaya, Pirlo, mata? Idk man. He's getting that Kobe on the all defensive 1st team treatment
 
lol welcome to the past 5 years. You should have been here last season :lol

Ironically, I started watching football in 2005. I never got to witness Arsenal in it's glory. Only it's downfall including the UEFA final vs Barca :lol
We used to be feared, man. Now we're struggling against bradford and extending contracts for players like Ramsey. I can't take this any longer. But i just can't leave. :rollin

In the words of Gazidis, [We'll be able to compete in 2014...with FFP in place and etc] :{
But I did read that we should have 100mil to spend by then which is comforting
Theo is supposedily going to sign a new contract by the end of the week. Hopefully we make new signings quickly after that. I'm rather annoyed with Theo, during the last game...it was like he was full of himself. We get it, you want to play CF. If you're not put in that position for the game, keep your *** on the wings....he was really killing the flow of things

AW on the wage structure
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/s...he-extent-of-his-influence-at-arsenal?cc=5901
 
I'm rather annoyed with Theo, during the last game...it was like he was full of himself. We get it, you want to play CF. If you're not put in that position for the game, keep your *** on the wings....he was really killing the flow of things

He hardly looks up to see if theres a better pass to play nowadays, he wants to take all shots himself. Quietly frustrating.
 
Blatter, Platini and the FIFA committee hate England and the EPL it's a well known fact, So it does not surprise me in the slightest that No EPL players in that team:

Ashley Cole > Marcelo
RVP should be in the Striker position,
Pique had his worst season since being at Manchester United but still selected
 
I think RVP had a better yr but Falcao led Alt Madrid to a UEFA cup.. so maybe a trophy trumps that... ionno man.. The only thing i find frustrating about the team and the Ballon is the criteria to win always changes.. When CR7 scored all those goals, ppl said so what he didnt win a title. Now the role is reversed and now scoring goals is what matters.. can be very frustrating I can imagine. I think Messi is the best in the world ( huge fan of CR7), but he didnt have a better yr.. I would have respected Iniesta winning, but then again Im bitter Xavi never won :{
 
dope vid...



and honestly,i thought Goal of the Year was weak compared to Falcao and Neymar's efforts... :x
 
I feel like this "Ronaldo is the more complete player" talk is just a myth. Is he really a more complete attacker simply because his height and strength permits him to have an impressive vertical leap? And because he scores from far?
A complete attacker, in my opinion is one that can contribute to a team's overall play on offense from multiple perspectives. Close ball control, keeping possession under intense pressure, finding key passes in the final third, effective dribbling, consistant finishing, off the ball movement, vision of teammates positioning, making effective runs, intelligent decision making. Messi has already mastered all of this at a young age, which leads me to believe that even when he loses his pace and stamina, he will continue to be a much more effective and complete attacker.
Amazing 30-40 yard goals, a huge leap, and strength makes Cristiano seem the more "complete" attacker, but it does not.
Before i came to this thread, i swear i didn't even realize this was still a debate. I was sure most already knew who the superior attacker was.

Strange, isn't it? What seems to be obvious is still lost on some people, but certainly the majority of fans aren't as ignorant. All of what you said is true, but people like to make it a debate due to bias or because the subtler aspects of the game are harder to appreciate or because of some fallacious argument. Such as the Messi hasn't proven himself in other leagues argument, despite the fact that numerous legends have spent their careers at one club. Or that he wouldn't be successful in the EPL, despite the fact that Cazorla, Mata, Silva, and Michu have all dominated in England, and all are inferior talents. Or that he doesn't do it for ARG, despite the fact that his goal to game ratio was better for country than club this year.

Messi is the best player in the world, and never has it been more clear than this season. There is no reason to make it complicated - when an attacker receives the ball he needs to first control it using a certain set of skills. Then he can either pass, dribble, or go for goal - all of which use different skills. And then there is the mental aspect which enables a player to make the decision on which to do, and how/when to do it. Messi is gifted to a ridiculous extent in every aspect and phase of the game, and that makes him the best and most complete player. CR had an argument because he won Liga, and was excellent, but the Golden Ball has always been a calender year award, and seeing as how Barca all but locked up the title before Christmas there was only going to be one winner.

Fifa XI was poor. My picks would have been:

Casillas
Lahm/Kompany/Chiellini/Alba
Pirlo/Xavi/Iniesta
Messi/Falcao/CR
 
I am just glad i am alive to watch CR7 and Messi play. Both players are fantastic.

But i def loled at the best XI being Real Madrid + Barcelona + Falcoa. It was like FIFA didn't care at all, literally was like watch this EPL lol.

Some great quotes about Leo at the ceremony though.

On Lionel Messi…
"You cannot compare anyone to Messi. Cristiano Ronaldo is a great human footballer, but Messi is a Martian. He can run even faster with the ball than he can without it. It's as if he's playing another sport. It's almost impossible to do the things he does at that speed."
Alfio Basile

Anyone who plays knows this is true and its always astounded me the same way RVP's touch does. They make it look so easy yet it is the hardest thing to do or ever master.

"My record stood for 40 years – 85 goals in 60 games – and now the best player in the world has broken it. I'm delighted for him. He is an incredible player, gigantic. He's such a nice and modest professional, and I hope he gets one or two more goals in 2012 and that he can then hold on to the record for the next 40 years. He's fantastic. He only has one defect and that is that he doesn't play for Bayern Munich!"
Gerd Muller on Lionel Messi

"Some people do not like Ronaldo because he is a great player, good-looking and has sex with all the ladies. People get jealous. The only bad thing about Ronaldo's life is Messi. If it was not for him, Ronaldo would have been the best player in the world for five years in a row now."
Luiz Felipe Scolari
:rollin Scolari is that dude :rollin
 
:lol
Heres the World XI from the PFA
206630


Rumor has it that NUFC is getting closer to signing Remy :{
 
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This past Sunday, 60 Minutes had a great feature on Barca (link below)...Fans already know the story but it was still cool to see...They also announced a 60 Minutes Sports coming later this month. One of the features will be an interview with Messi...Below is a preview...

Edit - the second link is a web extra with Xavi on playing for Barca...



 
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I'm rather annoyed with Theo, during the last game...it was like he was full of himself. We get it, you want to play CF. If you're not put in that position for the game, keep your *** on the wings....he was really killing the flow of things

He hardly looks up to see if theres a better pass to play nowadays, he wants to take all shots himself. Quietly frustrating.

He really needs to be put in his place as far as I'm concerned. I hope AW takes care of that asap.
Barca made a statement saying Villa isn't going anywhere. I know a lot of fans are disappointed. But it was never gonna happen, the chances were really slim. Dude is making about 150k per week. As a talent as he is, we're not breaking or wage structure nor is he gonna take that much of a pay cut.
AW said he is a fan of Ba but he didn't want to bu him because he is similar to Giroud. Llorente is very similar to Giroud also so I don't see us going after him. Heard we've been linked to Eduardo Vargas.

The 60 minutes segment was great. Great show in general. They're going to have a new show dedicated to sports starting this month I believe

More Mourinho drama ha
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/blog/_/name/thetoepoke/id/1372?cc=5901
 
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I feel like this "Ronaldo is the more complete player" talk is just a myth. Is he really a more complete attacker simply because his height and strength permits him to have an impressive vertical leap? And because he scores from far?
A complete attacker, in my opinion is one that can contribute to a team's overall play on offense from multiple perspectives. Close ball control, keeping possession under intense pressure, finding key passes in the final third, effective dribbling, consistant finishing, off the ball movement, vision of teammates positioning, making effective runs, intelligent decision making. Messi has already mastered all of this at a young age, which leads me to believe that even when he loses his pace and stamina, he will continue to be a much more effective and complete attacker.
Amazing 30-40 yard goals, a huge leap, and strength makes Cristiano seem the more "complete" attacker, but it does not.
Before i came to this thread, i swear i didn't even realize this was still a debate. I was sure most already knew who the superior attacker was.

Strange, isn't it? What seems to be obvious is still lost on some people, but certainly the majority of fans aren't as ignorant. All of what you said is true, but people like to make it a debate due to bias or because the subtler aspects of the game are harder to appreciate or because of some fallacious argument. Such as the Messi hasn't proven himself in other leagues argument, despite the fact that numerous legends have spent their careers at one club. Or that he wouldn't be successful in the EPL, despite the fact that Cazorla, Mata, Silva, and Michu have all dominated in England, and all are inferior talents. Or that he doesn't do it for ARG, despite the fact that his goal to game ratio was better for country than club this year.

Messi is the best player in the world, and never has it been more clear than this season. There is no reason to make it complicated - when an attacker receives the ball he needs to first control it using a certain set of skills. Then he can either pass, dribble, or go for goal - all of which use different skills. And then there is the mental aspect which enables a player to make the decision on which to do, and how/when to do it. Messi is gifted to a ridiculous extent in every aspect and phase of the game, and that makes him the best and most complete player. CR had an argument because he won Liga, and was excellent, but the Golden Ball has always been a calender year award, and seeing as how Barca all but locked up the title before Christmas there was only going to be one winner.

Fifa XI was poor. My picks would have been:

Casillas
Lahm/Kompany/Chiellini/Alba
Pirlo/Xavi/Iniesta
Messi/Falcao/CR
206718






This past Sunday, 60 Minutes had a great feature on Barca (link below)...Fans already know the story but it was still cool to see...They also announced a 60 Minutes Sports coming later this month. One of the features will be an interview with Messi...Below is a preview...

Edit - the second link is a web extra with Xavi on playing for Barca...




their locker room :x :x :x
I was expecting something better :{

EDIT: that 60 minutes sports segment premieres tomorrow on Showtime I believe, not sure at what time
 
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louislagerfeld -

I'm guessing that's Barca's locker room from Camp Nou right? If so that was built in the 50's so that's why it looks so old. Plus with all the famous players over the years you definitely want to preserve it.

I was watching Fox Soccer's Being Liverpool over the Christmas break & I thought the same thing about the locker room in Anfield. It's really old looking, small, & cramped...

BTW, I really loved Being Liverpool. Love seeing the behind the scenes stuff. I was rolling when Brandon Rodgers was going off on Raheem Sterling saying he was going to put him on the plane back home (they were playing a friendly in Boston)...
 
louislagerfeld -

I'm guessing that's Barca's locker room from Camp Nou right? If so that was built in the 50's so that's why it looks so old. Plus with all the famous players over the years you definitely want to preserve it.

I was watching Fox Soccer's Being Liverpool over the Christmas break & I thought the same thing about the locker room in Anfield. It's really old looking, small, & cramped...

BTW, I really loved Being Liverpool. Love seeing the behind the scenes stuff. I was rolling when Brandon Rodgers was going off on Raheem Sterling saying he was going to put him on the plane back home (they were playing a friendly in Boston)...
yea that's the locker room in Camp Nou. I seen that they don't remove the names of the players who had that locker/number before so I understand about preserving it. But they're a first class organization, it's time to move on.

I was also watching Being Liverpool over the break, their locker room is worse :x
That part had me :lol
"Raheem you say steady to me one more time, you'll be on the first plane back"

BTW they have some amazing chefs :hat
 
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fifa top 11 is garbage, heres my top 11

Cavani-Insigne

Zuniga-Hamsik-Behrami-Inler-Maggio

Gamberini-Cannavaro-Campagnaro

DeSanctis
 
I haven't watched the 60mins bit yet and I don't want to watch the preview, but I guess it's only in the US where you get all these extravagant "clubhouses" with huge lounge-chairs and LCD's.  
 
well madrids club house is pretty nice if memory serves me right.. and will prolly only get better with the new stadium.. seen pics of milans.. also very nice.. but yeah nothing like the nba/nfl
 
dope vid...



and honestly,i thought Goal of the Year was weak compared to Falcao and Neymar's efforts... :x

+1 on the vid :hat


I agree with the goal of the year too..and :lol at this team of the year..no hummels? lahm? anybody??
 
My XI:

Hart

Marcelo/Kompany/Ramos/Lahm

Yaya Toure/Iniesta/Pirlo

Messi/Ronaldo/Drogba


And the chosen one not winning manager of the year is :eek, I respect the Spanish National team but del Bosque should not have won it. They barely made it past a lack luster Portugal team and defeated a rebuilding Italian team.
 
fifa top 11 is garbage, heres my top 11

Cavani-Insigne
Zuniga-Hamsik-Behrami-Inler-Maggio
Gamberini-Cannavaro-Campagnaro
DeSanctis



What was done here, I saw it.




Too bad these bums couldn't get past Chelsea even after leading 3-0 on aggregate.
 
What was done here, I saw it.
Too bad these bums couldn't get past Chelsea even after leading 3-0 on aggregate.
bums huh....who's your team?

The real bum is Aronica who gifted Chelsea what they needed in return fixture...but I want to forget about that
 
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