The Ultimate Soccer Thread 2012-2013 Vol. 3 Premier League, La Liga, Serie A, Bundesliga etc

Wow man Wenger is a ******g puppet for the board. How is he content with not competing? Im sure the board has promised him some sort of job security taking this route.

Im not buying "theo is top priority", they are milking this issue for all its worth. What better way to blame the lack of purchases then on contract negotiations. If theo is the only "signing" arsenal make, its gonna be a rough end of a season
 
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Jada2001Retro said:
Remy and M'Vila just want to get to England.

Once teams see how they are doing, they might snatch them up during the summer.

It's actually kind of good to have the risks taken on them by a team like QPR, because we all know if they are relegated, they will DEFINITELY be sold.

Remy is who we need on Arsenal, we can do without M'Vila.
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Yeah this - Like Esteban Granero, He signed with QPR to get to England and put himself in the shop window to the big English clubs
 
I really wish Wenger never speaks to the media again about transfer dealings. So frustrating hearing him make contrasting statements every week. It's clear the squad needs strengthening now if we are to finish in the top four yet no signings have been made and we are midway through January. Liverpool with Sturridge and Chelsea with Ba have shown what a difference signing players early does. But with Arsenal, Wenger and the board will rather negotiate till deadline day just to save a few million and risk out out on losing targets.
 
bandman said:
I really wish Wenger never speaks to the media again about transfer dealings. So frustrating hearing him make contrasting statements every week. It's clear the squad needs strengthening now if we are to finish in the top four yet no signings have been made and we are midway through January. Liverpool with Sturridge and Chelsea with Ba have shown what a difference signing players early does. But with Arsenal, Wenger and the board will rather negotiate till deadline day just to save a few million and risk out out on losing targets.
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Not always his fault.

Sometimes, the British media actually twists his words.

Example shown in the comments of this article:

Really!? Wenger claims he can't spend big because Arsenal squad is TOO GOOD!
15 Jan 2013 22:30
'We have a good squad. I know we swim against the stream a bit because people don't believe that' says Gunners boss


Arsene Wenger has claimed there are NO players available in the winter transfer window who can improve his current squad.

Despite Arsenal falling 21 points behind leaders Manchester United the Gunners manager revealed he is finding it hard to spend the club's substantial transfer kitty.

Wenger said: "It has become more difficult for one simple reason: We have a good squad. I know we swim against the stream a bit because people don't believe that. I say we have a very good squad."

Wenger, who has already admitted he has the money to "spend big", saw his side's devastating defeat to Manchester City on Sunday leave his team out of the European places.

The Arsenal chief's remarks are unlikely to please fed-up Gunners fans who want new signings, especially with high ticket prices and one fans' group calling for him to change his philosophy or go.


Wenger said: "We have some improvements to make and we know exactly where. In January it is difficult to find the players that are really better and can give something special to the squad.

"The number is right. We have a good balance. We are working very hard to find what we want.

"We are working very hard. First of all we want to sort out the injuries we have, and we are trying very hard to close the deal with (Theo) Walcott. Once we have done that, we will certainly do something else. At the moment I cannot tell you more."

Meanwhile, key midfielder Mikel Arteta, as we revealed yesterday, is going to be back from injury quicker than the three weeks initially anticipated.

Wenger added: "Arteta's injury could be shorter than three weeks because it's a minor calf strain. It's a light grade one so it could be quicker than three weeks.

"Mikel Arteta is an important player. First of all, he's a good player, a tactically intelligent player, and a winner. He has three important qualities that you miss when you don't have him."

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/arsenal-boss-arsene-wenger-claims-1536089


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"A blatant, egregious hatchet job by John Cross, twisting Wenger's words to a truly absurd scale. No, John, Wenger did not say that there are "no players available who can improve his squad". In fact, he said that he felt he needed to make improvements: his statement was that it was "difficult" to get hold of the right players in January.

Is it any wonder that Wenger doesn't bother to engage with the English media? Why make the effort when you just pursue your own vendetta and put words in his mouth that have no resemblance to what he actually said?

The amusing thing is that as I write, the most read article in the sport section is an article saying that Arsene Wenger is "vowing to buy", and the number two article is a piece saying that Arsenal is chasing Mohamed Diame. Perhaps, John, you need to have a chat with Alex Hankin, because he appears to be on a completely different page to you. Or maybe the Mirror is just running some kind of Arsenal-themed choose-your-own-adventure story."




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You need to look at what's ACTUALLY quoted, compared to what's written by the journalist, and you can sometimes see that the British media literally writes their own fables to sell papers.
 
chiva1908 said:
Copa MX is a ******g joke. Watched Valencia vs Real earlier, and then started to watch Necaxa vs Neza... Turned it off after 15 minutes :smh:
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Copa MX :lol: What do you expect when teams play with their reserves and the coaches aren't even present in the game. But yeah its night and day when you watch early EPL, La Liga and then watch Liga MX. Good thing Chivas are not in it, so I don't have to watch it.
 
Surprised at that, but then again it will not hold the amount pressure Manchester United would
 
Somebody better pick up the Bundesliga TV rights. GolTV is getting pulled off my cable system next week and I'm pretty sure it'll be dead by summer.
 
That Pep news going to Bayern had me :wow: :wow: when I first saw it :smh: REALLY interested to see how that turns out
 
Great story about Man City's Kompany...

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/soccer/news/20130109/vincent-kompany-manchester-city/?sct=sc_bf2_a2


At about the same time Manchester City coach Roberto Mancini was grappling with £24 million striker Mario Balotelli during a training session bust-up last week, club captain Vincent Kompany was dominating headlines in Belgium.

Sport/Foot magazine revealed that the City and Belgium captain was in advanced talks to buy second-division club White Star Woluwe. Kompany, the magazine explained, wanted to establish a structure where young people from the Belgian capital have the chance to develop as players and people.

The deal will only go through if three criteria are met: 1. The club, currently second, is promoted this season. 2. Plans for a 10,000-capacity stadium are approved by Brussels mayor Freddy Thielemans. 3. Kompany is allowed to rename the club Brussels United.

You can't quite imagine Balotelli having the same sense of social engagement as his captain, whose Vica foundation focuses on helping underprivileged children in Brussels.

"Vincent transcends football," Steven Martens, the Belgian football federation's general secretary, told Knack magazine. "He is pure charisma and has a very high IQ: leadership comes past his ears, eyes and nose."

Kompany is also an ambassador for SOS Children's Villages and regularly uses his Twitter account to comment on social injustices around the world: from the French presidential elections (Sarkozy is "an unstable two faced character and his politics are dangerous as its based on exploiting the fear of people"), the British government's withdrawal of aid to Rwanda ("Two faced policies. Stopping aid is not a sanction it's just easy press. Same government trades with the people that are keeping the conflict alive, those who plunder. All about the natural resources") and Belgian paper De Morgen's campaign to stop using the word immigrant: "It's archaic, marginalising and even discriminatory."

On the pitch, Kompany enjoyed a majestic 2012. World Soccer named him one of the top four defenders in the world, he was short-listed for the FIFA/FIFPro World XI and L'Equipe picked him in its World Team of the Year. When City was down to Queens Park Rangers in the May match it had to win for the Premier League title, Kompany was thinking of the futility of winning the club's Player of the Year award if it missed out on the championship. After City won 3-2, with it a dramatic first Premier League title, he had the wherewithal to remember to mention his marriage and birth of his daughter among the other "best days of my life." Smart move.
Last summer he extended his contract with City to 2018, making him, along with Eden Hazard, the highest-paid Belgian in the Premier League. Sport/Foot claimed his weekly salary was €135,000 (compared to Marouane Fellaini's €95,000, Thomas Vermaelen's €80,000 and Mousa Dembele's €67,000).

"The project here is not just a sporting one," he told former Belgium forward Mbo Mpenza, interviewing him for La Dernière Heure. "It will bring a lot to the city and to the people. We're going to build a new training center to bring together the juniors and senior players and which will do a lot for the community in this part of town. The objective is to bring young players through to the first team. The project is to take the club back to its former glories, and it goes a lot further than just spending a lot of money on players.

"But people won't see this for perhaps another 10 years. I'm happy to be part of all that. It's not a three-year project but rather one for 10, 15, 20 years. It's exciting to think I can be part of those taking the club where it wants to go."
Despite City owners Abu Dhabi United Group spending around €400 million on new players since taking over in August 2008, Kompany is adamant that the club has not changed.

"Believe me, this remains the club of the city," he told De Standaard last week. "We have not renounced our values, and that's why the club is beautiful to me. This is a great club, it has a magnificent past and an even brighter future."

Kompany's role in that future is secure; Balotelli's is less so. Even if Mancini claimed that owner Sheikh Mansour is a Balotelli fan, "because he recognizes the talent and he exports the name of City over the world," the return on the pitch (this season: one goal in seven league starts) is barely worth the investment off it.

That's not the case with Kompany, whose status is best summed up by De Morgen columnist Hugo Camps.

"It's quite simple," he wrote. "Vincent Kompany is our country's best foreign minister."
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Hmmmm, CR7 back to Man U? Is he running away from Messi? :lol:


http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=1301303&cc=5901



For the first time since arriving in 2009, a dissatisfied Cristiano Ronaldo no longer sees his long-term future at Real Madrid and has made it known to Manchester United that he favours an eventual return to Old Trafford.

The development, which has been revealed to ESPN by well-placed figures close to both clubs as well as the player, tallies with Ronaldo's recent public comments regarding his next move.

In the last week, although initially unwilling to discuss his future, the forward has admitted that "anything is possible" and that, after his current contract runs out in 2015, "I don't know what will happen in the future".

Tellingly, those comments themselves mirror Ronaldo's statements when he was trying to engineer a move to Real Madrid back in 2008 and 2009. Although that eventual world-record transfer was the fulfilment of a lifelong dream for the Portuguese, he has become concerned about the Spanish champions' capability of regularly matching his current ambitions.

Ronaldo is said to be dismayed at the state the team are currently in as well as the rapid regression following last season's record-breaking title win. Exacerbating that are issues like a perceived failure to back the player in his Ballon d'Or campaign, the state of siege in which his manager Jose Mourinho now finds himself and the apparent infighting as a result of the unrest. With the Real boss almost certain to depart the club in the summer, Ronaldo is concerned about where the club go next.

The situation is a far cry from the stability and regular trophies he experienced during his last three years at Old Trafford under Sir Alex Ferguson - with whom he has maintained contact.

Those at United were surprised but encouraged by the developments, although they understand that the situation is far from straightforward and any transfer would only come in the long term.

For a start, a major trophy like the Champions League - which would ironically have involve a victory over United this season - could help to ease the situation at the Bernabeu. That was what happened with Mourinho's own uncertain situation last season after the league title win.

Secondly, if that does not happen, Ronaldo's emotional connection to Old Trafford and his strong willingness to work with Ferguson again must still be balanced against his long-held ambition to become the best-paid and most prestigious player in the world.

Although the Glazers have been occasionally willing to deviate from transfer policy to keep United competitive at the top level - as with the Robin van Persie signing - they still generally operate within the financial constraints they have themselves imposed.

An example came following the capture of Van Persie. Although Ferguson was still insistent on capturing Leighton Baines, Everton's greatly increased asking price of £18 million for the left-back meant the Glazers were unwilling to sanction another high fee so soon after Van Persie.

Meeting Ronaldo's market value - of which the player is understandably aware, despite any emotion about his old club - would involve a few big decisions. The club's hierarchy, however, would also look at his commercial potential, which has grown dramatically since he left in 2009.

However, if Ronaldo chooses to leave Real at the end of his current deal in the summer of 2015 that would negate the need for any transfer fee and create much greater flexibility on the value of his playing contract.

Ronaldo may still look to Paris Saint-Germain. The forward is understood to be too loyal to his past to consider a move to either Manchester City or Chelsea, leaving the French side as one of the few elite clubs that could afford him in the event he leaves Madrid.

One Old Trafford source said that "the situation can change but it's one to keep an eye on".
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Man U goalkeeper De Gea might be going to Barcelona if Valdez leaves to Liverpool. :x I've seen de gea play for Man U. Please keep him.
 
Meanwhile, Arsene is struggling with his zipper, again.

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