THEE OFFICIAL 2019-2020 NBA OFFSEASON THREAD: VICTORY LAP

[buc em]

steph “not being able to muster up any better scholarships than Davidson” just isn’t true.

His only D1 offers were Davidson, Winthrop and VCU. Virginia Tech offered him a spot as a walk on. Look it up yourself.

 

[P C H]

I'm not conflating a person's non-basketball life to their basketball prospects. I feel like that's a COMPLETELY separate conversation. I am speaking simply about on-court basketball activity...and the different paths/levels of development players embark on.

ahh that’s where we differ. I think for some their non basketball lives have a direct correlation to their basketball life. I remember how Allen Iverson’s mom went without paying the light bill so that AI could have basketball shoes. For some, they really do go together. Or when player x is trying to go league but all his homies gangbang or like bron being poor and being raised by a teen mom.

idk how one could separate one from the other. Being poor and from the slums could motivate you to do things and hang around people that can adversely affect your life chances not just in sports.

from a strictly basketball perspective I’d agree with you.

 

[P C H]

His only D1 offers were Davidson, Winthrop and VCU. Virginia Tech offered him a spot as a walk on. Look it up yourself.

that is 3 mid major D1 offers? That is not underdog status

 

[JD617]

Worst Franchises of this decade?

Lakers have to be somewhere high in that list right?

I looked it up out of curiosity... best is the Spurs, worst is damn near a tie between the Kings and Wolves.

 

[SpittaJetLife]

that is 3 mid major D1 offers? That is not underdog status

This

 

[ahat]

Whos the best player that didnt play D1? Not including any high school to pro guys.

Guess international guys can be included

 

[buc em]

that is 3 mid major D1 offers? That is not underdog status

Bro I’ve played with plenty of players that got three offers to mid majors. If they went on to become back to back NBA MVP’s and the orchestrator of a god damn dynasty I’d say it’s a pretty good underdog story

 

[casper90403]

When I think of an underdog I think of Devean George or like Dennis Rodman or something.

i put guys like Devean George in the overachiever category.

Overachiever's can be looked at as underdogs because its unexpected.

But to say Steph was an underdog seems weird to me.

 

[SpittaJetLife]

Kawhi is an underdog.

 

[P C H]

Bro I’ve played with plenty of players that got three offers to mid majors. If they went on to become back to back NBA MVP’s and the orchestrator of a god damn dynasty I’d say it’s a pretty good underdog story

overachiever isn’t the same as underdog to me. The former is what you’re describing.

A lotto pick becoming an all time great isn’t some underdog story man lol not to me at least

 

[HIM]

One thing I’ve noticed as of late is people think a lot of is don’t like Steph because of his “underdog” status or because he is short, lightskin, religious etc. But I think really what they’re saying is the reason they like steph is because he is an “underdog” lightskin, religious etc.

I don’t mind that at all. I like certain players because of non-basketball things But don’t use that to tell me why I don’t like steph. I actually liked steph coming out of Davidson but he’s collateral damage. I’ve been hatingGSW since we were both winning 20 games.

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

“Greatest offensive player of all time”

He's spacing the floor

 

[everysingletime]

He's spacing the floor

If anyone has a clip of Harden moving without the ball I'd like to see it. Cuz I don't believe it's ever happened

 

[ahat]

He's spacing the floor

Dude passed the ball to capela one possesion at the top of the key and clint drove to the basket....james threw a hissy fit cuz he didnt get the ball back i was dying

 

[casper90403]

Kawhi is an underdog.

I mean, based on the stuff being spewed in here about Steph being an underdog, then yeah, Kawhi is an absolute underdog. He had less offers than Steph. Had the height to play. But yet all local schools passed on him.

The word underdog can mean anything though. Its a rough argument to have. Perfect for NBA thread

 

[P C H]

Also he had 7 mid major scholarship offers not 3 and by his sophomore year had lottery talk around him. Nope no underdog story.

Stephen Curry 2006 Point Guard Davidson

Stephen Curry - 3 Star Point guard for Davidson on Rivals.com

n.rivals.com

 

[lawdog1]

don't think anyone on here can come up with 30 names throughout nba history of a player whose father was also an NBA player... And the nba drafts what.. 60 players a year?....

Of the top 50 players in nba history, how many had a son who made the nba?

2 - Rick Barry and Bill Walton. I didn’t count John Stockton because his son David only played in a handful of NBA games.

 

[wavycrocket]

Also he had 7 mid major scholarship offers not 3 and by his sophomore year had lottery talk around him. Nope no underdog story.

Stephen Curry 2006 Point Guard Davidson

Stephen Curry - 3 Star Point guard for Davidson on Rivals.com

n.rivals.com

You going real hard with this, then saying you don’t “care either way” . Winthrop, Wofford, Davidson, VCU, William & Mary & High Point were Mid Major D1 offers at the time.

The only “high Major” offer he got...was an offer to be a Walk on at Va Tech (his dads Alma matter). That’s where the “1 scholarship talk comes from”. They’re talking about from high Major....especially in ACC country with what he did in high school.

“Underdog talk” is relative and kinda silly. But for you to act like digging up that Steph got offered from high point and Winthrop as a gotcha moment to him not being heavily recruited is Really FUNNY.

You better than this.

 

[SORIANOTRON]

I don't think anyone on here can come up with 30 names throughout nba history of a player whose father was also an NBA player... And the nba drafts what.. 60 players a year?

If you can name 30 names... Please list them.

30 names?

kobe
Kevin love
Klay
Andrew wiggins
Steph
Seth
GRIII
GPII
Mike Conley
Luke
Mike bibby
Jae crowder
Ed davis
Mike dunleavy
Jerami grant
Jerian grant
Tim hardaway jr
Gerald henderson
Al horford
Wes matthews
Larry nance
Jabari parker
Sabonis
Garret temple
Wally szerbyiak
Dajuan wagner
Jalen rose
Justice winslow
Dave stockton
AJ price
Glen rice
Jim paxson
John paxson

thats over 30 playboy, shut your mouth when grown folks talking

 

[nick.]

 

[SORIANOTRON]

tried to tell em

 

[everysingletime]

2 - Rick Barry and Bill Walton. I didn’t count John Stockton because his son David only played in a handful of NBA games.

When you put it like that.. Kinda sounds like the odds are against Bronny James

 

[P C H]

You going real hard with this, then saying you don’t “care either way” . Winthrop, Wofford, Davidson, VCU, William & Mary & High Point were Mid Major D1 offers at the time.

The only “high Major” offer he got...was an offer to be a Walk on at Va Tech (his dads Alma matter). That’s where the “1 scholarship talk comes from”. They’re talking about from high Major....especially in ACC country with what he did in high school.

“Underdog talk” is relative and kinda silly. But for you to act like digging up that Steph got offered from high point and Winthrop as a gotcha moment to him not being heavily recruited is Really FUNNY.

You better than this.

It’s not a gotcha moment, it’s just an error on buc em part. And I’m really only participating because I’m at work waiting until 5 to leave

That’s 7 mid majors who offered Steph on the heels of being an all state performer with an NBA father. If you think that that qualifies as being an underdog then so be it but I disagree.

And my argument was NEVER about him getting high major attention it was simply that not being offered by high majors doesn’t mean you’re an underdog

 

[addict4sneakers]

Hate to be that guy but y’all know lebron basically got adopted when he was 10 right?

 

[wavycrocket]

I look at more than points scored to determine a player’s impact on a series. Im not saying I’m right or you’re wrong but I see where the disconnect is. If I’m being honest I would say KD was the best player on the last 3 warriors teams but I’d assume that you’d say Steph was. Again, tough to say who’s right but that’s sports, right? Having said all this, however, I don’t see how anyone can Have another player ahead of LeBron.

I’d say it’s truly debatable who the best player on the last 3 warriors team is. The data says Steph. The toughest series they faced (Rockets 2018, says Steph). The signature moment in the game 3s of the two series where the Warriors lost a total of 1 game.. and the award every one remembers says KD. So you can take that for what you want. (But that’s would be looking at “more than PPG ). I’m simply responding to you saying by my logic....and listing players of teams Kawhi was on, when he wasn’t the leader or drove winning in those series as somehow irony to the players I listed that Steph led teams truly beat...with him as the driving force behind it.

And again, it’s not to take anything away from Kawhi. Because his decade was unconventional but still dominant over a short time. But he maxed his time in those moments.