THEE OFFICIAL 2019-2020 NBA OFFSEASON THREAD: VICTORY LAP

[trynafeelmink]

Yall lower the bar more than limbo I swear . Anytime you try to boost up a player that hasn't won: winning is overrated. Actually, the first round was the real finals that year. He almost won 25 games that's close enough. Lawwwwwwlz

every day we gotta hear about these guys people throw in the GOAT conversations and how they had to play the mighty mighty Warriors... i haven't heard none of those excuses for all the Players who had to go through Mike & the Bulls in their primes.

Melo gets called a perennial loser on here all the time & literally got knocked out the playoffs every year of his career by Kobe/Duncan/Lebron.

but now it's a bunch of participation trophies year in year out for these newer athletes. FOH

 

[MajinZuub]

The 2018 WCF was the Finals. You HAVE to account for conferences and who you’re playing. Seriously....his team pushed one of, if not THE best teams ever to 7 games.

And Vogel took the Heatles to 7.

 

[addict4sneakers]

Melo gets called a perennial loser on here all the time & literally got knocked out the playoffs every year of his career by Kobe/Duncan/Lebron.

He made out of the first round twice. He missed the playoffs from age 29-32.

He’s a winner?

 

[trynafeelmink]

And Vogel took the Heatles to 7.

RELYING on Hibbert & Lance ******* Stephenson in playoff games

 

[MVP]

All we heard about the Rockets last season was "if only they had CP0" they would've beaten GS. Never mind they were up double digits of both G6 and G7 and had a historically choking performance in G7 at home. Fast forward to this past May, get their chance at redemption. The best player on the planet goes out for GS in a tie game where they have a chance to seize control of the game and series. Nope Harden and MDA blow that one. G6 comes up, surely they'll win at home to force a decisive game 7. Steph has the worst half of basketball of his entire playoff career and the Rockets still can't pull away and proceed to get sent home AGAIN on their home floor with a fully healthy CP0.

Enough of the damn excuses. As the great Maya Angelou said when somebody shows you who they are, believe them. MDA has showed us regardless of advantageous or disadvantageous situations he's not adjusting and will find a way to blow that cash. Same for James Harden.

 

[B Sox]

every day we gotta hear about these guys people throw in the GOAT conversations and how they had to play the mighty mighty Warriors... i haven't heard none of those excuses for all the Players who had to go through Mike & the Bulls in their primes.

 

[trynafeelmink]

He made out of the first round twice. He missed the playoffs from age 29-32.

He’s a winner?

The point was he was eliminated by all time players/ teams yearly but nobody cares.

but when Bron was getting curb stomped by the warriors it was... well he was supposed to lose.
Harden been turnt yellow in the playoffs before the KD rendition of the Warriors... but once he started facing those squads it was... well he's facing the warriors he wasn't supposed to win

Ya'll pick & choose when ya'll want to give these passes out.

 

[Brosizzlew30.23]

The 2018 WCF was the Finals. You HAVE to account for conferences and who you’re playing.

When you wanna be considered elite, there are ZERO excuses.

 

[trynafeelmink]

and all they say about those guys is how they couldn't get things done, nobody is here giving them partial credit championships because they pushed series to 6 games. they just call em great players who couldn't win

None of the extra gymnastics that get thrown around for some of these newer players.

 

[addict4sneakers]

The point was he was eliminated by all time players/ teams yearly but nobody cares.

but when Bron was getting curb stomped by the warriors it was... well he was supposed to lose.
Harden been turnt yellow in the playoffs before the KD rendition of the Warriors... but once he started facing those squads it was... well he's facing the warriors he wasn't supposed to win

Ya'll pick & choose when ya'll want to give these passes out.

Oh you champion dudes that can’t get out the first round: Westbrook and Melo.

I see you

 

[trynafeelmink]

Oh you champion dudes that can’t get out the first round: Westbrook and Melo.

I see you

first round? who cares aren't you one of the winning is overrated guys

 

[addict4sneakers]

I’ve said Harden might be the Karl Malone of this generation plenty of times. Dig it up

 

[JD617]

Melo gets called a perennial loser on here all the time & literally got knocked out the playoffs every year of his career by Kobe/Duncan/Lebron.

Yeah, literally every year of his career besides when he lost to the Timberwolves. And the Clippers. And the Jazz. And the Celtics. And the same Pacers team that you're saying had a lack of talent.

 

[Brosizzlew30.23]

and all they say about those guys is how they couldn't get things done, nobody is here giving them partial credit championships because they pushed series to 6 games. they just call em great players who couldn't win

None of the extra gymnastics that get thrown around for some of these newer players.

This generation of players is dam soft. The 80s and 90s NBA plus Kobe, KG, AI, and Timmy D would blow the new generation out into deep space

 

[trynafeelmink]

I’ve said Harden might be the Karl Malone of this generation plenty of times. Dig it up

Karl Malone got to the finals twice and lost to the goat.... that's disrespectful to his legacy quite honestly

 

[B Sox]

I wonder if those Jazz teams would’ve made the finals if they played in the East

 

[addict4sneakers]

Karl Malone got to the finals twice and lost to the goat.... that's disrespectful to his legacy quite honestly

Harden lost to the warriors to get to the finals. Both rockets teams were better than those Cavs teams.

 

[HIM]

Wait for mean reversion honestly, 10 shots isn't enough to guage anything. I also dont think he's going to be shooting it so often that it matters a ton

But
You get less leeway when you’re doing something like shooting one-legged 3’s. If he shoots regular 3’s at a ~38% clips but is shooting 15% on one-legged 3’s how many attempts do you give before you say enough

 

[Brosizzlew30.23]

Harden ain't the new Mailman imho. Gotta get to the Finals first plus Mailman isn't Mailman if not for Stockton. Harden never had a true running mate his entire career like Karl did.

Harden more like the new age T-Mac. Supremely talented one on one scorer, one of the best scorers of his era, extremely creative on offense, but career full of second round defeats because he never had a bonafide championship level type running mate and just wasn't as great as the Kobes, Lebrons, and Wade's of the world.

 

[wavycrocket]

Melo gets called a perennial loser on here all the time & literally got knocked out the playoffs every year of his career by Kobe/Duncan/Lebron.

but now it's a bunch of participation trophies year in year out for these newer athletes. FOH

Not me. I always say Melo and Cp3 and kg were victims of the west. That said. Harden and MDA had more success in the west than those guys.

MDA rockets are the Jazz of this era. That’s all I’m saying.

 

[trynafeelmink]

Harden lost to the warriors to get to the finals. Both rockets teams were better than those Cavs teams.

I've seen Harden drop the ball WAY to many times to give him the edge on either one of those Cavs teams... he doesn't get benefit of the doubt AT ALL fam

 

[addict4sneakers]

Harden ain't the new Mailman imho. Gotta get to the Finals first plus Mailman isn't Mailman if not for Stockton. Harden never had a true running mate his entire career like Karl did.

Harden more like the new age T-Mac. Supremely talented one on one scorer, one of the best scorers of his era, extremely creative on offense, but career full of second round defeats because he never had a bonafide championship level type running mate and just wasn't as great as the Kobes, Lebrons, and Wade's of the world.

Career full of second round defeats?

must be two T Macs

 

[HIM]

every day we gotta hear about these guys people throw in the GOAT conversations and how they had to play the mighty mighty Warriors... i haven't heard none of those excuses for all the Players who had to go through Mike & the Bulls in their primes.

This is just a lie

Usually the 2nd or 3rd thing people say about Stockton, Malone,Chuck,GP, is that they would have won if Jordan was out the league. Even Hakeem getsdiscredited for winning when MJ quit on his team, fanbase, and entire NBA.

 

[jab step]

Honestly, I get the D’Antoni criticisms, but in reality what year has D’Antoni underachieved as a coach?

 

[MVP]

Harden ain't the new Mailman imho. Gotta get to the Finals first plus Mailman isn't Mailman if not for Stockton. Harden never had a true running mate his entire career like Karl did.

Harden more like the new age T-Mac. Supremely talented one on one scorer, one of the best scorers of his era, extremely creative on offense, but career full of second round defeats because he never had a bonafide championship level type running mate and just wasn't as great as the Kobes, Lebrons, and Wade's of the world.

He's not T-Mac, who never got out of the 1st rd and was never truly a MVP caliber player. Slightly better. He's a manifestation of these nerds who celebrate everything but actually winning there ultimate prize in the sport. If your TS% is over 60% you've 'broken the game' and are the greatest offensive force the game has ever seen; even though those gimmicks never pay dividends when it really counts.