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BronNBA were to add to the next 10 to top 50
who would be on that list
KD
Steph
Bean
Timmy
Dirk
AI
Nash
CP
Wade
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BronNBA were to add to the next 10 to top 50
who would be on that list
Dang breh. Season really night get cancelled
He's got 2 jerseys hanging at Staples, so 2 spots on your next 10 list. I see you, giving the nod to both #8 and #24.LeBron
KD
Kobe
Wardell
KG
Kobe
Duncan
Dirk
Harden
CP3
I agree that it's not fair to the rest of the team to attribute a championship or even a dynasty to just one person like how people say that the Bulls 6 are just because of Jordan. So similarly, it's not fair to attribute a loss to 1 player.
At the same time, though, we do say that players led teams to championships. Jordan didn't win those 6 by himself, but he did lead the team to 6 championships, in that they won the championship 6 times and he was clearly the team's leader. So we can't say that someone did something that they didn't do; we can't say that James Har_en has led his team to a title, or even a WCF title.
We just can't say he has lead his team there, or pretend that he's on par with others who have led their team to places that he has not led his team.
This looks about right to me. Harden probably in the running for that last spot too.
You also had Kobe twiceI had Harden, but thinking about it more, Kawhi, Wade and Nash would all be just as deserving.
Damn I completely forgot about Wade. I take back what I said about Harden or Westbrook getting the last spot in my post. 3 rings gotta put him in there.I had Harden, but thinking about it more, Kawhi, Wade and Nash would all be just as deserving.
Kidd not getting in the top 10. Maybe Top 20.Damn there's Iverson and Kidd too.
Iverson and harden is a good comp. AI is one of the goats but nobody acts like he was better than what he wasKidd not getting in the top 10. Maybe Top 20.
Iverson an interesting one. Probably put him neck and neck with Harden.
AI is one of the goats but nobody acts like he was better than what he was
nobody acts like he was better than what he was
AI is one of the goats
That's a whole lot of words that didn't negate my point.you were making sense until the end. to say harden as an individual is not on par with other individuals because other individuals have greater team achievements loses me. last year is a perfect example of this.
28.5/9.8/4.2 on 43/36/91
34.8/7/5.5 on 44/35/82
those stat lines are both against the warriors. in the finals, KD played 12 minutes. klay sat game 3, and tore his acl with 2 minutes to go in the 3rd quarter of game 6 (warriors only lost by 4). raptors win, kawhi is a champion.
KD ruptures his achilles with 2 minutes to go in game 5, sits game 6. no other notable injuries for the warriors. every game decided by 6 points or less. 6 game series decided by 11 points. the rockets lost to a better team. it happens. losing a close series =/= choking.
Damn there's Iverson and Kidd too.
Kidd being on the next 10.
That's a whole lot of words that didn't negate my point.
I said that we can't say that a player has led his team to a place that he hasn't, and so far you haven't refuted that.
James Har_en has not led his team to an NBA title, or even a WCF title. He has not been on a team that went that far with him being the leader of the team. This is just a factual statement. So no, to that extent, we can't make up rules and say that he's on par with someone else who was on a team that went that far while being the leader of that team. Yes it's a team accomplishment, but marginalizing stats and isolating single series' still doesn't speak to the overall point that he has not been on a team that has won an NBA title with him as the leader, or even been to the Finals with him as the leader. That just hasn't happened, and it has happened with others.
And if his style of play continues, it won't ever happen, so be prepared for that argument during his retirement ceremony.
NBA were to add to the next 10 to top 50
who would be on that list
Jason Kidd has been a hot topic this week after not being talked about since everybody said he was gonna take Vogel’s job. So random