THEE OFFICIAL 2019-2020 NBA OFFSEASON THREAD: VICTORY LAP

[BIG LEEMELONE]

07 Warriors
08 Nuggets (Melo & AI 50 win)
09 Jazz (48 win)
10 Thunder (50 win)
2014 Mavs (Took Champ spurs to 7)
2011 Grizzlies (Beat Spurs in rd 1)
2015 Pelicans
16-17 Blazers
17-18 T wolves
18-19 Clippers last year

This ain’t even “hate”....and this is just from 07. These are better 8th seed TEAMS than the Blazers now. That’s not a hot take or hate.

And you yourself no damn well, they’ve been better 2nd round teams than these rockets. The 2015 Clippers come to mind immediately.

It's a reach big dawg . You're really nitpicking with this. Blazers and Houston are solid and everybody's acting like they can beat the Lakers. Last year's clippers? Really? And then you posted a Steph gif when the dubs have benefitted from injuries in like 80% of matchups during their title runs

 

[wavycrocket]

It's a reach big dawg . You're really nitpicking with this. Blazers and Houston are solid and everybody's acting like they can beat the Lakers. Last year's clippers? Really?

Those TEAMS ain’t solid I listed? Lol.

The reason some are sayying the Blazers have a shot at the Lakers speaks more to Bron at 35....AD and the rest of the merry men your team. Check your backyard big fella

 

[BIG FISH]

OKC in 2015 probably woulda been one of the best 8 seeds ever

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

Those TEAMS ain’t solid I listed? Lol.

The reason some are sayying the Blazers have a shot at the Lakers speaks more to Bron at 35....AD and the rest of the merry men your team. Check your backyard big fella

The blazers and rockets aint solid? All those teams are basically on the same tier bro. It's a reach to act like any of those teams are so much greater than the competition this year to try to diminish what a LeBron led team could do by beating them. It's a take only an elite Bron hater would cook up

 

[wavycrocket]

Was watching this 8th seed...50 win Nuggets team the other day.



This is the year Melo was his most efficient. AI was his most efficient. Marcus Camby Won DPOY, and they met the Kobe/Pau Lakers in rd 1.

BIG LEEMELONE will let you believe this team ain’t better than the 2020 Portland Trailblazers tho.

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

Was watching this 8th seed...50 win Nuggets team the other day.



This is the year Melo was his most efficient. AI was his most efficient. Marcus Camby Won DPOY, and they met the Kobe/Pau Lakers in rd 1.

BIG LEEMELONE will let you believe this team ain’t better than the 2020 Portland Trailblazers tho.

Bruh those nuggets got swept by an average of like 15 points each game. You're reeeeeaaaching . They lost by 15 in this video you posted to show how great they were

 

[freeze]

 

[wavycrocket]

It's a reach big dawg . You're really nitpicking with this. Blazers and Houston are solid and everybody's acting like they can beat the Lakers. Last year's clippers? Really? And then you posted a Steph gif when the dubs have benefitted from injuries in like 80% of matchups during their title runs

I never said they weren’t. You didn’t see my post, where I said this? You literally quoted where I said “a tough go”

It’s still a tough go, all things considered. Wouldn’t call it “brutal” but it ain’t a cakewalk like ole boy used to.

What you doing here dawg? You projecting . Sad!

 

[Based Jesus]

Literally on the last page man

 

[darthska]

Neighborhood what?

Yo crazy.

 

[Based Jesus]

Dummy Ska rey use yo moe

 

[wavycrocket]

Dummy Ska rey use yo WOE

FIXED!

 

[Peep Game]

Nuggets got wrecked in 2008 then went out like some straight cowards in 2009 after the Lakers/Rockets series. Dudes gave no resistance that series

 

[addict4sneakers]

@P C H
addict4sneakers

Can either of you pull his Floater numbers from SYnergy for me please?

Wtf
Why didn’t he stick in the league? I remember him being good for Phoenix I think lol

I think he cussed out one of the coaches on the PHX staff and they told him to beat it

 

[EZMONEY SERVANT]

Literally on the last page man

 

[wavycrocket]

Nuggets got wrecked in 2008 then went out like some straight cowards in 2009 after the Lakers/Rockets series. Dudes gave no resistance that series

2009 was the Kenyon Martin inbound pass and foul madness. Don’t remind me. Had a chance to be up 2-0 going back to Denver

 

[Based Jesus]

FIXED!

Lor mistake shawty

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

Nuggets got wrecked in 2008 then went out like some straight cowards in 2009 after the Lakers/Rockets series. Dudes gave no resistance that series

Melo led teams have always been fugazi

 

[BIG FISH]

Hating on Melo is anti-black

 

[noblekane]

spurs really want that last playoff spot huh

 

[jpzx]

Those TEAMS ain’t solid I listed? Lol.

The reason some are sayying the Blazers have a shot at the Lakers speaks more to Bron at 35....AD and the rest of the merry men your team. Check your backyard big fella

The ‘17-18 Timberwolves weren’t winning against this year’s Lakers.

 

[noblekane]

Hating on Melo is anti-black

hating on ANY black player is anti black

 

[noblekane]

that clippers blazers game is big tomorrow for the blazers

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

The ‘17-18 Timberwolves weren’t winning against this year’s Lakers.

Legit just named every 8 seed from the past decade

 

[reformeDWS]

How does AD play a small ball team and only take 8 shots?

TL;DR - teams try too hard to bully the rockets small ball and deviate from their gameplan. AD isn't a dominant post player but they force fed him on the block anyways and ended up getting their asses kicked.

the long winded answer (warning - ska length post):

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"analytics" has been pretty misapplied by a lot of the NBA community *in my opinion*. it has come to be associated with simply the conclusion of "just shoot more 3s" so everyone added a 3 into their bag. people skip over how the conclusion was reached and it's not a one size fits all thing. it's basically the concept of "min/max" and game theory.

Applying it to basketball (using basketball reference shot tracker, classifying midrange as 16ft to the 3pt line, and using career stats):

Player A shoots 41.7% from midrange. he takes 100 shots = he scores 83.4 points. regarded as a solid role player. mid range was his shot.
Player B shoots 46.2% from midrange. he takes 100 shots = he scores 92.4 points. elite midrange shooter.
Player C shoots 30.8% from 3. he takes 100 shots = he scores 92.4 points. statistically tied for 3rd worst 3pt shooter this year (doesn't qualify b/c volume)
Because 3 is just worth more, being an awful 3 point shooter nets the same amount of points as an elite guy.

Player A is

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Rip Hamilton

Player B is

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Chris Paul

Player C is

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Ky Bowman

all that to say: I don't think players now fully develop all around games. 3s have so much more value that players gravitate towards that. The evolution of NBA bigs has shifted from unskilled big men to smaller bigs who could shoot and guard more positions. As the bigs have got smaller, they prioritize shooting over posting. I think we'll see a shift where bigs can still shoot, but will be viable enough to punish a switching guard on the block.

AD hasn't developed a postgame. it isn't a strength of his. nba's play type tracking shows AD post ups generate .91 PPP. It shows KAT at .95.

The conclusion shouldn't be, but often is, that post ups are "bad shots". The conclusion, imo, should be that AD isn't a great postup player. Embiid postups generate 1.12 PPP.

The lakers force fed AD on the block last night, even though numbers show he isn't a dominant post up player, and played right into the rockets hand.