THEE OFFICIAL 2019-2020 NBA OFFSEASON THREAD: VICTORY LAP

[IATT]

20 shots per game isn’t as easy as you think .

This is Dame’s first year taking 20 shots a game. And he’s at 20.4,

I mean, if your guy is willing to shoot and has the ball a ton it isn’t (see Westbrook)

but probably more like 17 or 18 for Nash.. but I’d rather him be at 20 between just taking advantage of guys slacking off, spot up shots, off screens, attacking the rim and just taking advantage of stuff off of pick n rolls

 

[wavycrocket]

Watching those Bulls- Jazz games it was hilarious, guys are playing 4 feet off Stockton and a 40% three point shooter just standing there running Jerry Sloans offense.

**** wild. Stockton could literally just rise and shoot. They were guarding him a step in from the line. And he didn’t even look at the basket.

This goes for bigs too tho. I remember John Salley or somebody saying how they were an 80% FT shooter...would catch the ball at the ft line with nobody guarding them...and not even look at the basket .

 

[IATT]

It’s super hard to do. Especially for a PG. And IATT was saying he’d expect Nash “in this era” to take AT LEAST 20 shots per game

For a look at what Nash’ shot distribution or profile may have been...look at Tim Hardaway during the late Run TMC era. That’s probably more realistic. Tim Hardaway got up to about 7 threes per game during the last year or so of that run. He was like a 22/10 guy. 1990 Mark Price as well. There are other things like getting to the line, drawing fouls, in between game and scoring off cuts, screens etc that have to be taken in account for.

It’s much deeper than simply shots per game.

Nah.. I see Nash as a combo of what cp and steph do.. Nash would have the ball in his hands more like CP controlling the offense but he’d do off ball stuff like steph, as well

 

[osh kosh bosh]

During the whole last dance thing, and watching those Jazz games,

I def feel like Stockton is a bit overrated.



and I def don't think he was an elite game breaking passer like Nash, he got so many system assists.

 

[mr s j king]

Watching those Bulls- Jazz games it was hilarious, guys are playing 4 feet off Stockton and a 40% three point shooter just standing there running Jerry Sloans offense.

The offense was run through Karl Malone
Stockton was the number two scoring option
Jerry Sloan's offense got them to back to back Finals
It worked very well back then

 

[dman14]

stockton was legit. controlled tempo, great passer, solid defender, can shoot, and played well off the ball (cutting, setting screens, etc)
was durable af and rarely missed a gm

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Like to me Nash>>>>Stockton easy.


even if you put Stockton in today game, he just didn't seem to have many moves to get his shot off in the half court.


I don't think he could generate like 7-8 three point attempts the way I think Nash could if he played today,

 

[wavycrocket]

Nah.. I see Nash as a combo of what cp and steph do.. Nash would have the ball in his hands more like CP controlling the offense but he’d do off ball stuff like steph, as well

That is soo much more easily conceptually said than done

 

[osh kosh bosh]

stockton was legit. controlled tempo, great passer, solid defender, can shoot, and played well off the ball (cutting, setting screens, etc)

I agree, didn't say he wasn't good. he was very good player for a very looooong time.

I just always prefer peak performance over longevity.

 

[B Sox]

what movie is this from?

Grandma's Boy

 

[ill steelo]

Watching those Bulls- Jazz games it was hilarious, guys are playing 4 feet off Stockton and a 40% three point shooter just standing there running Jerry Sloans offense.

A lot of those games are difficult to watch

 

[whoaitsgee]

what movie is this from?

Grandma's boy iirc.

 

[wavycrocket]

Nuggets 2020 Champs. Let’s go!

 

[IATT]

That is soo much more easily conceptually said than done

I mean we see how those guys games overlap with aspects, if I’m making comparisons those are the guys I’m looking at

 

[pums]

I feel bad for Donovan Mitchell his second and third options are Clarkson and Ingles

 

[ahat]

And the defense of the chip begins

 

[noblekane]

There's no way you can say STEVEN Nash is better than Curry

There is no fact. its all opinion. we are all different ages so our opinions wont be the same. older people have seen way more basketball than younger ones so their selection might be just a little wider.

and ofcourse no man on earth is without bias.

 

[shotsrangout]

There’s no point guard who affects games like steph curry EVER.

dude is in a league of his own and y’all already know how I feel about dude.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

No Vince.

NO.

 

[noblekane]

Who? noblekane ? Because there's no way you mean Steph. Underrated? Like he needs MORE praise in your opinion?

I do think im a bit underrrated. Been on niketalk for over 20 years and havent been perma banned yet

 

[wavycrocket]

I feel bad for Donovan Mitchell his second and third options are Clarkson and Ingles

You should feel bad for Rudy Gobert, for playing with the black hole that Mitchell is.

 

[HOU$TON]

 

[DCAllAfrican]

The game is too damn different to be comparing Steph Curry to PGs born in 60s and 70s.

Pointless.

Completely different games of basketball.

 

[noblekane]

Looking at predictions from around the ballosphere...

A lotta ppl picking the Thunder over the Rockets in the 1st rd.

cant see harden letting that happen even if he gotta average over 50 a game

 

[MVP]

cant see harden letting that happen even if he gotta average over 50 a game

He's let it happen under more ideal circumstances. Russ missing 2 games will ultimately do them in. Thunder Up.