There are NO benefits for men to get married.

[i am that dude]

Originally Posted by TruthGetsBusy

Originally Posted by Kramer

Originally Posted by TruthGetsBusy

You are crazy...how you gonna buy a whip and not look under the hood and test drive it. 

  

There will be plenty of time for that later, all day n all night

So young

My dude do you know the point of a test drive?  Or a movie trailer?  It's to see what you are getting before you commit.  Sex is a huge part of life and it's not always as simple as "putting it in her hole".  Goodluck tho hope you pick somebody you're compatible with.

  

Who was that one NTer who wanted to have sex with his girl but neither he nor her knew how to do it. And they had to have her look at "herself" and try to figure out where, kept trying, doing it "wrong," then finally quit?

 

[ksteezy]

And son marriage does not equal being in a faithful relationship, I can be in a faifthful relationship with one girl today and another one in a month, you gotta be kidding me.

 

[i am that dude]

Originally Posted by TruthGetsBusy

Originally Posted by Kramer

Originally Posted by TruthGetsBusy

You are crazy...how you gonna buy a whip and not look under the hood and test drive it. 

  

There will be plenty of time for that later, all day n all night

So young

My dude do you know the point of a test drive?  Or a movie trailer?  It's to see what you are getting before you commit.  Sex is a huge part of life and it's not always as simple as "putting it in her hole".  Goodluck tho hope you pick somebody you're compatible with.

  

Who was that one NTer who wanted to have sex with his girl but neither he nor her knew how to do it. And they had to have her look at "herself" and try to figure out where, kept trying, doing it "wrong," then finally quit?

 

[likethematrix]

smh... you kids nowadays.

marry your *%%*% cause you love that *%%*% enough to fight someone for her and willing to give up half your $#$%.
and if you aint $!%%!# over atleast 50 *+!+%%% then how can you even give advice?
you havent had enough experience.
marriage is the real dedication. "im putting my money on the line for you %*$!+"

Its like signing a lease on a 150k car.

 

[likethematrix]

smh... you kids nowadays.

marry your *%%*% cause you love that *%%*% enough to fight someone for her and willing to give up half your $#$%.
and if you aint $!%%!# over atleast 50 *+!+%%% then how can you even give advice?
you havent had enough experience.
marriage is the real dedication. "im putting my money on the line for you %*$!+"

Its like signing a lease on a 150k car.

 

[antonlavey]

Originally Posted by ErvinSB91

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

Originally Posted by TruthGetsBusy

  

well then cross that out and replace it with husband, the same rules apply. Calling me gay is hardly an insult, there are men I could gladly marry if I were attracted to them.

 
Anton have you found or dated for a short amount of time any non-famous girl who's fit this criteria?
I'll leave my opinion out, but yea ksteezy made a point that's been ignored in this thread for a while. Religion, whether you believe in God or not, can play a huge part in a person's view on marriage.

There are always exceptions though

As long as she is "Christ-like", not a hypocrite, has good values and not ignorant I'm ok with religious women....I actually kinda want to marry a Jew. I love Jewish women

I have "dated" some women that fit a few of those criteria. Like I said I don't wanna settle if I'm going to make that commitment

 

[antonlavey]

Originally Posted by ErvinSB91

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

Originally Posted by TruthGetsBusy

  

well then cross that out and replace it with husband, the same rules apply. Calling me gay is hardly an insult, there are men I could gladly marry if I were attracted to them.

 
Anton have you found or dated for a short amount of time any non-famous girl who's fit this criteria?
I'll leave my opinion out, but yea ksteezy made a point that's been ignored in this thread for a while. Religion, whether you believe in God or not, can play a huge part in a person's view on marriage.

There are always exceptions though

As long as she is "Christ-like", not a hypocrite, has good values and not ignorant I'm ok with religious women....I actually kinda want to marry a Jew. I love Jewish women

I have "dated" some women that fit a few of those criteria. Like I said I don't wanna settle if I'm going to make that commitment

 

[ervinsb91]

Originally Posted by ksteezy

And son marriage does not equal being in a faithful relationship, I can be in a faifthful relationship with one girl today and another one in a month, you gotta be kidding me.

My question to you is if LBJ does continue to have a successful, happy, marriageless, faithful relationship for the rest of his life would you continue to believe he never "manned up"?
Like someone else said, unless everyone decides to come back in 10 years and recheck opinions you have to chalk this debate up to people with different mindsets.

 

[ervinsb91]

Originally Posted by ksteezy

And son marriage does not equal being in a faithful relationship, I can be in a faifthful relationship with one girl today and another one in a month, you gotta be kidding me.

My question to you is if LBJ does continue to have a successful, happy, marriageless, faithful relationship for the rest of his life would you continue to believe he never "manned up"?
Like someone else said, unless everyone decides to come back in 10 years and recheck opinions you have to chalk this debate up to people with different mindsets.

 

[mrsouthernhospitality]

Originally Posted by ksteezy

And son marriage does not equal being in a faithful relationship, I can be in a faifthful relationship with one girl today and another one in a month, you gotta be kidding me.

you haven't heard about dudes cheating on the wives c'mon steezy
and im not against either
its just my personal opinion of my own choice to not go with it
and me and my sig other both see eye to eye as far as our bond is concerned
If im invited to a wedding im in attendance not matter how my personal view for my self is
im there for support that what a friend/family member or whatever will do
im not there to

I support there choice I just so happen to have my own that applies to me

 

[mrsouthernhospitality]

Originally Posted by ksteezy

And son marriage does not equal being in a faithful relationship, I can be in a faifthful relationship with one girl today and another one in a month, you gotta be kidding me.

you haven't heard about dudes cheating on the wives c'mon steezy
and im not against either
its just my personal opinion of my own choice to not go with it
and me and my sig other both see eye to eye as far as our bond is concerned
If im invited to a wedding im in attendance not matter how my personal view for my self is
im there for support that what a friend/family member or whatever will do
im not there to

I support there choice I just so happen to have my own that applies to me

 

[ervinsb91]

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

Originally Posted by ErvinSB91

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

well then cross that out and replace it with husband, the same rules apply. Calling me gay is hardly an insult, there are men I could gladly marry if I were attracted to them.

 
Anton have you found or dated for a short amount of time any non-famous girl who's fit this criteria?
I'll leave my opinion out, but yea ksteezy made a point that's been ignored in this thread for a while. Religion, whether you believe in God or not, can play a huge part in a person's view on marriage.

There are always exceptions though

As long as she is "Christ-like", not a hypocrite, has good values and not ignorant I'm ok with religious women....I actually kinda want to marry a Jew. I love Jewish women

I have "dated" some women that fit a few of those criteria. Like I said I don't wanna settle if I'm going to make that commitment

I actually wished i lived in NY partially for this reason. At least just to date one and see what it's like.

 

[ervinsb91]

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

Originally Posted by ErvinSB91

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

well then cross that out and replace it with husband, the same rules apply. Calling me gay is hardly an insult, there are men I could gladly marry if I were attracted to them.

 
Anton have you found or dated for a short amount of time any non-famous girl who's fit this criteria?
I'll leave my opinion out, but yea ksteezy made a point that's been ignored in this thread for a while. Religion, whether you believe in God or not, can play a huge part in a person's view on marriage.

There are always exceptions though

As long as she is "Christ-like", not a hypocrite, has good values and not ignorant I'm ok with religious women....I actually kinda want to marry a Jew. I love Jewish women

I have "dated" some women that fit a few of those criteria. Like I said I don't wanna settle if I'm going to make that commitment

I actually wished i lived in NY partially for this reason. At least just to date one and see what it's like.

 

[antonlavey]

Originally Posted by ErvinSB91

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

Originally Posted by ErvinSB91

 
Anton have you found or dated for a short amount of time any non-famous girl who's fit this criteria?
I'll leave my opinion out, but yea ksteezy made a point that's been ignored in this thread for a while. Religion, whether you believe in God or not, can play a huge part in a person's view on marriage.

There are always exceptions though

As long as she is "Christ-like", not a hypocrite, has good values and not ignorant I'm ok with religious women....I actually kinda want to marry a Jew. I love Jewish women

I have "dated" some women that fit a few of those criteria. Like I said I don't wanna settle if I'm going to make that commitment

I actually wished i lived in NY partially for this reason. At least just to date one and see what it's like.

Jewish women are

, I've had a thing with a few that I regret not settling down with cause I got greedy. SMH/

 

[antonlavey]

Originally Posted by ErvinSB91

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

Originally Posted by ErvinSB91

 
Anton have you found or dated for a short amount of time any non-famous girl who's fit this criteria?
I'll leave my opinion out, but yea ksteezy made a point that's been ignored in this thread for a while. Religion, whether you believe in God or not, can play a huge part in a person's view on marriage.

There are always exceptions though

As long as she is "Christ-like", not a hypocrite, has good values and not ignorant I'm ok with religious women....I actually kinda want to marry a Jew. I love Jewish women

I have "dated" some women that fit a few of those criteria. Like I said I don't wanna settle if I'm going to make that commitment

I actually wished i lived in NY partially for this reason. At least just to date one and see what it's like.

Jewish women are

, I've had a thing with a few that I regret not settling down with cause I got greedy. SMH/

 

[tizoni]

Originally Posted by likethematrix

smh... you kids nowadays.

marry your *%%*% cause you love that *%%*% enough to fight someone for her and willing to give up half your $#$%.
and if you aint $!%%!# over atleast 50 *+!+%%% then how can you even give advice?
you havent had enough experience.
marriage is the real dedication. "im putting my money on the line for you %*$!+"

Its like signing a lease on a 150k car.

This.
 Look at your !!!%! in the eyes and if you see yourself being with that !!!%! and loving that !!!%! for the rest of your life then that !!!%! is for you. Just be careful what what kind of !!!%! you tryin to wife. Too many bad #%++#*+ out there you need to look for the right !!!%! that'll be the !!!%! that you can be with forever.

 

[tizoni]

Originally Posted by likethematrix

smh... you kids nowadays.

marry your *%%*% cause you love that *%%*% enough to fight someone for her and willing to give up half your $#$%.
and if you aint $!%%!# over atleast 50 *+!+%%% then how can you even give advice?
you havent had enough experience.
marriage is the real dedication. "im putting my money on the line for you %*$!+"

Its like signing a lease on a 150k car.

This.
 Look at your !!!%! in the eyes and if you see yourself being with that !!!%! and loving that !!!%! for the rest of your life then that !!!%! is for you. Just be careful what what kind of !!!%! you tryin to wife. Too many bad #%++#*+ out there you need to look for the right !!!%! that'll be the !!!%! that you can be with forever.

 

[upptempo8387]

I didn't read this 14 page thread bc I was sure 75% of it was stupidity so I may be repeating something someone already said...But y'all must be dating some bum %+* women to view them all as "depreciating assets." If you're talking about those snobby, spoiled chicks that just want a dude to take them out n buy them stuff, then I agree..But there are tons of women that will always be worth something, whether emotionally or financially.

I live in NYC and if you go to Wall Street or any other financial sector of the city, you will see a lot of attractive women making a crap load of money that are focused on their career...How would that woman be depreciating in value?

What about women that cook and like to take care of their family? If you wanna have kids one day and not deal with that baby mama drama, marriage is the only route..If you expect to find an attractive woman to have your kids w.o commitment, you're delusional...You'll end up having kids with her, eventually break up and then have to deal with her having dudes around your kid since she's not gonna be single forever, and any time u wanna move or do something involving your kid, she can just say no.

If you're a simp that jumps into a marriage after a year only to find out the girl isn't what you expected, that's your own stupidity..But if you're with a girl for a few years and see her true self day in and day out, and she has a good job and her own money, marriage isn't the dead end road many guys try to make it out to be.

Also, attractive women get uglier in the future because they don't take care of themselves..If you meet a woman that cares about her health and body, she will continue to keep herself in shape and make sure she looks good...If that wasn't possible, the term MILF wouldn't exist.

 

[upptempo8387]

I didn't read this 14 page thread bc I was sure 75% of it was stupidity so I may be repeating something someone already said...But y'all must be dating some bum %+* women to view them all as "depreciating assets." If you're talking about those snobby, spoiled chicks that just want a dude to take them out n buy them stuff, then I agree..But there are tons of women that will always be worth something, whether emotionally or financially.

I live in NYC and if you go to Wall Street or any other financial sector of the city, you will see a lot of attractive women making a crap load of money that are focused on their career...How would that woman be depreciating in value?

What about women that cook and like to take care of their family? If you wanna have kids one day and not deal with that baby mama drama, marriage is the only route..If you expect to find an attractive woman to have your kids w.o commitment, you're delusional...You'll end up having kids with her, eventually break up and then have to deal with her having dudes around your kid since she's not gonna be single forever, and any time u wanna move or do something involving your kid, she can just say no.

If you're a simp that jumps into a marriage after a year only to find out the girl isn't what you expected, that's your own stupidity..But if you're with a girl for a few years and see her true self day in and day out, and she has a good job and her own money, marriage isn't the dead end road many guys try to make it out to be.

Also, attractive women get uglier in the future because they don't take care of themselves..If you meet a woman that cares about her health and body, she will continue to keep herself in shape and make sure she looks good...If that wasn't possible, the term MILF wouldn't exist.

 

[chokeonsmoke]

 

[chokeonsmoke]

 

[ldj]

ksteezy wrote:

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Originally Posted by Mrsouthernhospitality

Originally Posted by an dee 51o

Open up your mind, lots of people don't believe in god.

and that's the sad part
even though there  are different religious beliefs around the world
dude still finds it hard to believe that everybody men and women dont feel the same way as him

its still funny how he feel that im immature even with me having a legitimate reason

People really go their whole lives not believing in something??...a higher power???...damb!Anyways believe what you want, I just don't undertand if you believe you found the live of your life, she has your kids, you've made the comitmwbt of staying faithful and never leaving her, then you've committed to the basic beliefs of marriage already, so why not make it official?...can we get a real reason as to why not other than you don't believe in it which is obviously very hypocritical.Just seems like some of you are doing wverythig in your peer to go against what society has deemed as the norm for hundreds of years.


Yes they do, many ppl live strictly logical/rational lives. And believing in a higher power etc is illogical which i have stated before. Logic by definition means= the independent study of the relationship and interdependence between a occurances, things, and/or series of events proven by facts. There isnt any proven concrete facts concerning religion or a higher power therefore it isnt logically. Which is why it is called a faith/belief and not a fact. So how can you say someone is wrong for using reasoning and facts over illogical thoughts beliefs and faith. Thats no different then someone saying youre wrong for choosing faith and belief. Its not a right or wrong thing its just way of viewing looking at life. So now we have that understanding. lets carry on.

Official means to authenticate, validate for others through authorization by someone of higher status. So again you are saying that my love for my woman and kids isnt real because it isnt showcased or validated by others. And that it isnt real because one a judge/minister/ etc didnt authenticate it (which i dont view a judge/minister as being a person of a higher status then I) And if you are saying that the higher status is god etc that is a personal belief and opinion. It isnt a fact and we have no factual way of proving that god/etc higher being acknowledges and authorizes the marriage.  Which also proves that ppl get marry for validation/social acceptance and approval of others and in many cases that of a higher being. Which i stated many of times is irrelevant and unimportant to me.

Which again i stated i love my kids and my woman, and proving to others doesnt change that, and seeking the approval of a higher being ie a reperesentative of him (judge,justice of peace,minister) doesnt prove or disprove that i do or do not love care for my kids and my woman. Ony thing that holds truth and is fact is my actions and the things i actually do.

So the same could go to you, why do you feel the need to have your love validated your emotions and bond and adornment for your wife and kids authorized by society? You specifically said and used the word OFFICIAL. So it was you who said your love bond etc commitments arent real/invalid and arent real until they are authorized and validated and social accepted. Either that or you didnt know what official meant. One or the other.

I feel and know for a fact that i care and love committed to my kids and my woman. I knew it back then and i know it now, its a fact and been proven by my acttions for all these years going close to 2 decades. Just because a judge etc... society, and what not didnt authorize it or validate it doesnt make it untrue. But your words says that it does. And thats what i disagree with. but what you said is an opinion, a belief. What i have actually done is a fact. It is documented and has been proven. And not having a ceremony/ring/contract/pact doesnt change a fact. Nor does a belief or opinion or reason change a fact.

Ppl believed at one point the earth was flat, and it was officially acknowledge across the lands. Was it fact? No. Did the fact it was socially accepted by many mean it was a fact or a truth? No. End of the day the world was never flat and whether it was made officially or if it was never official it still wouldnt change the fact that the world was never flat.

Same goes for commitment/love etc. Whether it is authorize/authenticated/or socially known and accepted if you love someone and have made the commitment and have fulfilled that love and commitment. Then it is true and whether others know it or acknowlege it doesnt change the fact.

Thats like what i said about being a parent, whether you have a baby at home, never signed a birth certificate, no baby shower etc. End of that you still are a parent and always will be. All those other things are just means of proving, seeking validity acknowledgement from others.[table][tr][td][/td][td][/td][/tr][/table][table][tr][td] [/td][td] [/td][/tr][/table]
  

 

[ldj]

ksteezy wrote:

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Originally Posted by Mrsouthernhospitality

Originally Posted by an dee 51o

Open up your mind, lots of people don't believe in god.

and that's the sad part
even though there  are different religious beliefs around the world
dude still finds it hard to believe that everybody men and women dont feel the same way as him

its still funny how he feel that im immature even with me having a legitimate reason

People really go their whole lives not believing in something??...a higher power???...damb!Anyways believe what you want, I just don't undertand if you believe you found the live of your life, she has your kids, you've made the comitmwbt of staying faithful and never leaving her, then you've committed to the basic beliefs of marriage already, so why not make it official?...can we get a real reason as to why not other than you don't believe in it which is obviously very hypocritical.Just seems like some of you are doing wverythig in your peer to go against what society has deemed as the norm for hundreds of years.


Yes they do, many ppl live strictly logical/rational lives. And believing in a higher power etc is illogical which i have stated before. Logic by definition means= the independent study of the relationship and interdependence between a occurances, things, and/or series of events proven by facts. There isnt any proven concrete facts concerning religion or a higher power therefore it isnt logically. Which is why it is called a faith/belief and not a fact. So how can you say someone is wrong for using reasoning and facts over illogical thoughts beliefs and faith. Thats no different then someone saying youre wrong for choosing faith and belief. Its not a right or wrong thing its just way of viewing looking at life. So now we have that understanding. lets carry on.

Official means to authenticate, validate for others through authorization by someone of higher status. So again you are saying that my love for my woman and kids isnt real because it isnt showcased or validated by others. And that it isnt real because one a judge/minister/ etc didnt authenticate it (which i dont view a judge/minister as being a person of a higher status then I) And if you are saying that the higher status is god etc that is a personal belief and opinion. It isnt a fact and we have no factual way of proving that god/etc higher being acknowledges and authorizes the marriage.  Which also proves that ppl get marry for validation/social acceptance and approval of others and in many cases that of a higher being. Which i stated many of times is irrelevant and unimportant to me.

Which again i stated i love my kids and my woman, and proving to others doesnt change that, and seeking the approval of a higher being ie a reperesentative of him (judge,justice of peace,minister) doesnt prove or disprove that i do or do not love care for my kids and my woman. Ony thing that holds truth and is fact is my actions and the things i actually do.

So the same could go to you, why do you feel the need to have your love validated your emotions and bond and adornment for your wife and kids authorized by society? You specifically said and used the word OFFICIAL. So it was you who said your love bond etc commitments arent real/invalid and arent real until they are authorized and validated and social accepted. Either that or you didnt know what official meant. One or the other.

I feel and know for a fact that i care and love committed to my kids and my woman. I knew it back then and i know it now, its a fact and been proven by my acttions for all these years going close to 2 decades. Just because a judge etc... society, and what not didnt authorize it or validate it doesnt make it untrue. But your words says that it does. And thats what i disagree with. but what you said is an opinion, a belief. What i have actually done is a fact. It is documented and has been proven. And not having a ceremony/ring/contract/pact doesnt change a fact. Nor does a belief or opinion or reason change a fact.

Ppl believed at one point the earth was flat, and it was officially acknowledge across the lands. Was it fact? No. Did the fact it was socially accepted by many mean it was a fact or a truth? No. End of the day the world was never flat and whether it was made officially or if it was never official it still wouldnt change the fact that the world was never flat.

Same goes for commitment/love etc. Whether it is authorize/authenticated/or socially known and accepted if you love someone and have made the commitment and have fulfilled that love and commitment. Then it is true and whether others know it or acknowlege it doesnt change the fact.

Thats like what i said about being a parent, whether you have a baby at home, never signed a birth certificate, no baby shower etc. End of that you still are a parent and always will be. All those other things are just means of proving, seeking validity acknowledgement from others.[table][tr][td][/td][td][/td][/tr][/table][table][tr][td] [/td][td] [/td][/tr][/table]
  

 

[truthgetsbusy]

is this fool trying to battle Method Man for most words per post sheesh....

 

[truthgetsbusy]

is this fool trying to battle Method Man for most words per post sheesh....