Well, we now know why Obama didn't want you to read his Columbia Univ. Thesis

[ph3n0m3n0n]

Originally Posted by J Burner

Originally Posted by Craftsy21

Originally Posted by J Burner

Originally Posted by 6dollaBURGER

Originally Posted by J Burner

Originally Posted by WarMachine

it's like what 30 years old?

I swear the Obama hate is just comedy now

Yea, because the presidents political views, and opinion about the constituion shouldn't be discussed.

He's not saying the Pres' current view, he's debating the legitimacy of something so outdated.

So, because he didn't say these things yesterday, its not legitimate?

what things were you saying 30 years ago? you probably weren't even born yet, but you think you're qualified to speak on the timeliness and relevance of things that are that far in the past?

fall back dude. all you radicals claimed Obama was going to take over the presidency and turn us into a communist, muslim nation... so far, it's a pretty standard democratic presidency like any other. you guys are all just nutjobs trying to find anything at this point to grasp on to that will justify your extreme hatred and paranoia.

Really, then why did Obama's camp feel the need to suppress the paper? People have been wanting to read it long before the election, if its not relevant, why would they hide it? So...fall back yourself, ya'll sound like fools trying to explain how we should just ignore what he said, because you don't think it sheds the best light on him.

he's right. You are a nutjob.

I'm not seeing the issue here.

 

[craftsy21]

Really, then why did Obama's camp feel the need to suppress the paper? People have been wanting to read it long before the election, if its not relevant, why would they hide it? So...fall back yourself, ya'll sound like fools trying to explain how we should just ignore what he said, because you don't think it sheds the best light on him.

Because they knew idiot republicans would manipulate with it? this ain't rocket science bro, look at how you're reacting to it.

And i couldn't care less how it paints him - i'm just telling you how politics work. Obama ain't my guy, and neither is anybody from the left orright for that matter. I just think people are looking really dumb trying to still uncover all this evidence about Obama like it's going to get himimpeached or something... move on with your lives, he's not the evil dictator you're trying to paint him to be.

Are you people serious? No wonder this country is so screwed. I have people here telling me the President of the United States doesn't have to believe in the constitution. Wow.
You probably sound really similar to how the brits did when we first started this country.. "how dare you question anything!"

get a clue man.

 

[ag 47]

To ridiculous and beyond...

 

[datdamndeuce]

I think that you have to believe in the Constitution in order to be the President and also to carry out your Presidential duties, however, at the end of theday people need to realize that politics are all about change. You take up a cause and you run because you want to see things differently. As a result, OURPRESIDENT, didn't agree with the Constitution (on whatever level) in the past, yet he was blessed enough to be elected into a position where he canactually do more than just write/type/talk about it. He's about change, and NOONE likes change. It's foreign and unknown, and those reasons alone areenough "justification" for some to oppose it.

With that being said, I seriously doubt if he feels the same way now that he felt then. And even if he does, he can't SINGLEHANDEDLY, do ANYTHING about it.He can't turn this nation on it's ear all alone. There are much too many checks and balances.

People need to stop crying about what the President is "doing", when clearly there have to be some Senators and House Reps that agree with hisviewpoints as well.

In short, learn your political system before you start to criticize someone who is ultimately just a glorfied figurehead.

BTW, I'm Pro-Obama if it matters....

 

[j burner]

Originally Posted by maxb7ty

No son. He's telling you the President doesn't have to believe in everything in the constitution. Hell I wouldn't shake the hand of a man who did.

Well then, he would be absolutely wrong. Do you think anyone would get elected President by saying "I don't really believe everything inthe Constitution, I just like parts of it." No chance in hell, and you know it.

 

[boys noize]

Originally Posted by J Burner

Originally Posted by Craftsy21

Originally Posted by J Burner

Originally Posted by 6dollaBURGER

Originally Posted by J Burner

Originally Posted by WarMachine

it's like what 30 years old?

I swear the Obama hate is just comedy now

Yea, because the presidents political views, and opinion about the constituion shouldn't be discussed.

He's not saying the Pres' current view, he's debating the legitimacy of something so outdated.

So, because he didn't say these things yesterday, its not legitimate?

what things were you saying 30 years ago? you probably weren't even born yet, but you think you're qualified to speak on the timeliness and relevance of things that are that far in the past?

fall back dude. all you radicals claimed Obama was going to take over the presidency and turn us into a communist, muslim nation... so far, it's a pretty standard democratic presidency like any other. you guys are all just nutjobs trying to find anything at this point to grasp on to that will justify your extreme hatred and paranoia.

Really, then why did Obama's camp feel the need to suppress the paper? People have been wanting to read it long before the election, if its not relevant, why would they hide it? So...fall back yourself, ya'll sound like fools trying to explain how we should just ignore what he said, because you don't think it sheds the best light on him.

Who exactly was checking for Obama's college thesis prior to the election? Of all the things to criticize him about, you're seriouslylooking toward his college thesis?

 

[craftsy21]

Originally Posted by J Burner

Originally Posted by maxb7ty

No son. He's telling you the President doesn't have to believe in everything in the constitution. Hell I wouldn't shake the hand of a man who did.

Well then, he would be absolutely wrong. Do you think anyone would get elected President by saying "I don't really believe everything in the Constitution, I just like parts of it." No chance in hell, and you know it.

you've heard of the amendments right?

just stop itman... please.

 

[boys noize]

Originally Posted by Craftsy21

Originally Posted by J Burner

Originally Posted by maxb7ty

No son. He's telling you the President doesn't have to believe in everything in the constitution. Hell I wouldn't shake the hand of a man who did.

Well then, he would be absolutely wrong. Do you think anyone would get elected President by saying "I don't really believe everything in the Constitution, I just like parts of it." No chance in hell, and you know it.

you've heard of the amendments right?

just stop it man... please.

/thread

 

[dendanskesimon]

Originally Posted by Craftsy21

Originally Posted by J Burner

Originally Posted by maxb7ty

No son. He's telling you the President doesn't have to believe in everything in the constitution. Hell I wouldn't shake the hand of a man who did.

Well then, he would be absolutely wrong. Do you think anyone would get elected President by saying "I don't really believe everything in the Constitution, I just like parts of it." No chance in hell, and you know it.

you've heard of the amendments right?

just stop it man... please.

word. I would never want anyone to run this country if they truly believed everything in the constitution

 

[j burner]

Originally Posted by kdawg

Originally Posted by DwyaneWadeOG

i bet the views you held in college are the same ones you hold now...

Seriously, I wrote a thesis in college and I wouldn't want anyone to see it now - because it's embarrassing how little I knew about the subject. When you're 21 you think you know everything. With the benefit of a decade of hindsight it's amazing how differently you see things.

Good points, but if that is the case, again, why would they take so much effort to hide it from the public? All he had to do was say exactly what you justsaid. But he hasn't done anything to show that his views are any different now than they were then.

 

[sundoobie]

OK where's the entire thesis? Am I suppose to finalize an opinion based on an excerpt?

Wait wait maybe we should start a revolution based on this?

Start theimpeachment process maybe?

OH NOOO Wealth Redistribution.. the sky is falling the sky is falling. No NO wait.. let's check his Birth Certificate. No wait Obama is a Muslim and aSocialist. No wait.. Wait wait... Obama = this.. Obama = that...

Give it a rest.. OBAMA = President of the United States.. PERIOD, DONE, OVER WITH. Are you seriously going to spend the next 3 1/2 years and possibly thenext 7 1/2 years on Niketalk posting nonsense after nonsense just to motivate us to hate this black man? Really? I feel so sorry that people will indeed dothis. Pathetic.

 

[emmanuelabor]

Originally Posted by LazyJ10

Eh, something like that needs to be entirely read, not just an excerpt, at least IMO.

word.

when I read the word "excerpt" I dismissed this...you can tak a piece of anything and make it look however you want. Let me read the entire thing,then make my decision

and I agree...I think more people need to be critical of the status quo in this country...its the only way to effect change

 

[j burner]

Originally Posted by Boys Noize

Originally Posted by Craftsy21

Originally Posted by J Burner

Originally Posted by maxb7ty

No son. He's telling you the President doesn't have to believe in everything in the constitution. Hell I wouldn't shake the hand of a man who did.

Well then, he would be absolutely wrong. Do you think anyone would get elected President by saying "I don't really believe everything in the Constitution, I just like parts of it." No chance in hell, and you know it.

you've heard of the amendments right?

just stop it man... please.

/thread

Amendments are not made by the President, they don'tt teach you guys this anymore? Amendments are voted on by the individual states. The president hasnothing to do with amending the Constitution. It has nothing to do with the President.

 

[craftsy21]

Originally Posted by J Burner

Originally Posted by kdawg

Originally Posted by DwyaneWadeOG

i bet the views you held in college are the same ones you hold now...

Seriously, I wrote a thesis in college and I wouldn't want anyone to see it now - because it's embarrassing how little I knew about the subject. When you're 21 you think you know everything. With the benefit of a decade of hindsight it's amazing how differently you see things.

Good points, but if that is the case, again, why would they take so much effort to hide it from the public? All he had to do was say exactly what you just said. But he hasn't done anything to show that his views are any different now than they were then.

again - because look at how people (like you) just run with stuff. "oh gawd, he didn't completely believe in the constitution? he'sa terrorist!"

if you have to take more than 2 seconds to explain something to the general public, they've lost interest already. Fox News will still probably run forweeks on this thing alone.. imagining if they had it before the election is frightening, they probably would've pushed to had him extradited or something.

you're dealing with a bunch of people who's job it is to make others look bad... you don't give them an angle, EVER if you can help it.

i'm not sure why you're confused about this..

Amendments are not made by the President, they don'tt teach you guys this anymore? Amendments are voted on by the individual states. The president has nothing to do with amending the Constitution. It has nothing to do with the President.

i'm done with you. for a second i thought you weremaybe a semi-educated person who got lost in the GOP shuffle... now i see you're just not getting anything.

enjoy the next 3 years with your tinfoil hat on.

 

[diego]

Originally Posted by J Burner

Originally Posted by maxb7ty

No son. He's telling you the President doesn't have to believe in everything in the constitution. Hell I wouldn't shake the hand of a man who did.

Well then, he would be absolutely wrong. Do you think anyone would get elected President by saying "I don't really believe everything in the Constitution, I just like parts of it." No chance in hell, and you know it.

Do you agree with EVERYTHING in the constitution?

Its not a matter of believing or not believing. The issue is can things be changed for the better.

I think we can all agree that a lot of things can be better in this country.


Your President Bush sniffled lines in college, if we really want to talk about what happened in college.

 

[kyrac2]

i'm amazed at how people are quick to defend obama and bash anyone against him. the man has the right to question the president i'm glad he is insteadof being like the majority and having blind devotion to a man. i really wonder how obama became the super hero that he is....when did he become untouchable?

 

[maxb7ty]

Originally Posted by SunDOOBIE

OK where's the entire thesis? Am I suppose to finalize an opinion based on an excerpt?

Wait wait maybe we should start a revolution based on this?

Start the impeachment process maybe?

OH NOOO Wealth Redistribution.. the sky is falling the sky is falling. No NO wait.. let's check his Birth Certificate. No wait Obama is a Muslim and a Socialist. No wait.. Wait wait... Obama = this.. Obama = that...

Jokes aside though,

Originally Posted by SunDOOBIE

Are you seriously going to spend the next 3 1/2 years and possibly the next 7 1/2 years on Niketalk posting nonsense after nonsense just to motivate us to hate this black man? Really? I feel so sorry that people will indeed do this. Pathetic.

This some trill spit. Some of yall disgust me.

 

[maxb7ty]

Originally Posted by kyrac2

i'm amazed at how people are quick to defend obama and bash anyone against him. the man has the right to question the president i'm glad he is instead of being like the majority and having blind devotion to a man. i really wonder how obama became the super hero that he is....when did he become untouchable?

The issue people are having with the OP has nothing to do with him being for or against Obama, if you actually read what J Burner is typing andyou don't see what's wrong then you're just as lost as he is.

 

[j burner]

Originally Posted by Diego

Originally Posted by J Burner

Originally Posted by maxb7ty

No son. He's telling you the President doesn't have to believe in everything in the constitution. Hell I wouldn't shake the hand of a man who did.

Well then, he would be absolutely wrong. Do you think anyone would get elected President by saying "I don't really believe everything in the Constitution, I just like parts of it." No chance in hell, and you know it.

Do you agree with EVERYTHING in the constitution?

Its not a matter of believing or not believing. The issue is can things be changed for the better.

I think we can all agree that a lot of things can be better in this country.


Your President Bush sniffled lines in college, if we really want to talk about what happened in college.

Here we go with the assumption that if I don't like Obama, I must love Bush. Bush was an idiot, I didn't vote for him either. Thanks. What I willlike to point out is the irony that ya'll found Bush's college days relevent when he was in office. Yet again, another example of the Obama doublestandard.

 

[kyrac2]

Originally Posted by maxb7ty

Originally Posted by kyrac2

i'm amazed at how people are quick to defend obama and bash anyone against him. the man has the right to question the president i'm glad he is instead of being like the majority and having blind devotion to a man. i really wonder how obama became the super hero that he is....when did he become untouchable?

The issue people are having with the OP has nothing to do with him being for or against Obama, if you actually read what J Burner is typing and you don't see what's wrong then you're just as lost as he is.

i know what J burner is talking about and i know most of you are typing looking like

because the man is trying to give you all insight on the way our presidentthought and from what i've seen and read still thinks like.

 

[kobefan23]

It's amazing to see the lengths many of you will go to defend President Obama. Anyone that has a legitimate concern is labeled A) a hater B) racist C)rushing to judgment.

1) This is incredibly relevant/interesting b/c he has expressed SIMILAR views, albeit more restrained, on the campaign trail (See Joe Plumber convo), throughhis taxation policies, and through his comments about his criteria for SCOTUS justices.
2) This is even more important b/c there's a clear difference between enacting legislation to "redistribute wealth" and pursing such an objectivethrough the court system. I would object to both, but arguing for an active court which redefines the meaning of "economic freedom" is a RADICALidea.
3) Yes, it is important that the President agrees with the Constitution. Was that even a serious question? His oath is to uphold the principles of theConstitution.

I'm not going to rush to judgment and say that the President is going to enact such radical measures. But to say this topic is irrelevant and not worthy ofdiscussion is laughable.

 

[diego]

Originally Posted by J Burner

Originally Posted by Diego

Originally Posted by J Burner

Originally Posted by maxb7ty

No son. He's telling you the President doesn't have to believe in everything in the constitution. Hell I wouldn't shake the hand of a man who did.

Well then, he would be absolutely wrong. Do you think anyone would get elected President by saying "I don't really believe everything in the Constitution, I just like parts of it." No chance in hell, and you know it.

Do you agree with EVERYTHING in the constitution?

Its not a matter of believing or not believing. The issue is can things be changed for the better.

I think we can all agree that a lot of things can be better in this country.


Your President Bush sniffled lines in college, if we really want to talk about what happened in college.

Here we go with the assumption that if I don't like Obama, I must love Bush. Bush was an idiot, I didn't vote for him either. Thanks. What I will like to point out is the irony that ya'll found Bush's college days relevent when he was in office. Yet again, another example of the Obama double standard.

Here we go with the assumptions.
I didnt care what Bush sniffed in college and I dont care what Obama wrote about in his thesis.

All that matters is the here and now. If Obama is to ever get us out of this mess (not saying that he will), how important will his thesis paper be?
However as typical Americans, we want to kick a man when he is down.

 

[maxb7ty]

Originally Posted by J Burner

Here we go with the assumption that if I don't like Obama, I must love Bush. Bush was an idiot, I didn't vote for him either. Thanks. What I will like to point out is the irony that ya'll found Bush's college days relevent when he was in office. Yet again, another example of the Obama double standard.

After this I'm done. I really can't do this anymore.

But are you seriously going to compare a thesis statement to abusing cocaine, and then have the audacity to proclaim that one pointing the finger at anindividual consuming illegal narcotics opposed to an individuals college paper is some sort of double standard?

Wow... just wow.

 

[j burner]

Originally Posted by maxb7ty

Originally Posted by kyrac2

i'm amazed at how people are quick to defend obama and bash anyone against him. the man has the right to question the president i'm glad he is instead of being like the majority and having blind devotion to a man. i really wonder how obama became the super hero that he is....when did he become untouchable?

The issue people are having with the OP has nothing to do with him being for or against Obama, if you actually read what J Burner is typing and you don't see what's wrong then you're just as lost as he is.

I bet you if I made this same exact post, but switched it up and praised Obama and the excerpt, NONE OF YOU would tell me it was irrelevant, outdated, orwhatever else. The only reason you let the hate flow is because ****gasp**** I said something bad about Obama. Sundoobie even slipped the race card inthere...

 

[kyrac2]

Originally Posted by Craftsy21

Amendments are not made by the President, they don'tt teach you guys this anymore? Amendments are voted on by the individual states. The president has nothing to do with amending the Constitution. It has nothing to do with the President.

i'm done with you. for a second i thought you were maybe a semi-educated person who got lost in the GOP shuffle... now i see you're just not getting anything.

enjoy the next 3 years with your tinfoil hat on.

he's right though the president really has nothing to do with amendments