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Originally Posted by hymen man
With only two weeks left in the season who's the NFL MVP?
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If the Seahawks were undefeated then Charlie Whitehurst's hair would be right up there with Brady and Vick in the MVP voting....
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If the Seahawks were undefeated then Charlie Whitehurst's hair would be right up there with Brady and Vick in the MVP voting....
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You can make an argument for either Brady or Vick. I think they should be co-MVPs
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You can make an argument for either Brady or Vick. I think they should be co-MVPs
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Brady without a doubt.
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Brady without a doubt.
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Vick
nuff said
nuff said
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Vick
nuff said
nuff said
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I want Vick to win but it'll go to Brady.
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I want Vick to win but it'll go to Brady.
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Brady is winning MVP, case closed.
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Brady is winning MVP, case closed.
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Vick is having an unbelievable season but he's only won 8 games so far (compared to 12 by Brady) and then look at the teams Brady has beaten:
-Cincy (playoff team last year)
-Baltimore
-SD
-Vikings (playoff team last year)
-Pittsburgh
-Indy
-Jets
-Chicago
-Green Bay
That's 9 teams that either made the playoffs last year or are good teams this year and its even more impressive when you consider they easily defeated some of those teams thanks in large part to Brady. Vick will get some 1st place votes but he will likely finish 2nd in voting behind Brady.
-Cincy (playoff team last year)
-Baltimore
-SD
-Vikings (playoff team last year)
-Pittsburgh
-Indy
-Jets
-Chicago
-Green Bay
That's 9 teams that either made the playoffs last year or are good teams this year and its even more impressive when you consider they easily defeated some of those teams thanks in large part to Brady. Vick will get some 1st place votes but he will likely finish 2nd in voting behind Brady.
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Vick is having an unbelievable season but he's only won 8 games so far (compared to 12 by Brady) and then look at the teams Brady has beaten:
-Cincy (playoff team last year)
-Baltimore
-SD
-Vikings (playoff team last year)
-Pittsburgh
-Indy
-Jets
-Chicago
-Green Bay
That's 9 teams that either made the playoffs last year or are good teams this year and its even more impressive when you consider they easily defeated some of those teams thanks in large part to Brady. Vick will get some 1st place votes but he will likely finish 2nd in voting behind Brady.
-Cincy (playoff team last year)
-Baltimore
-SD
-Vikings (playoff team last year)
-Pittsburgh
-Indy
-Jets
-Chicago
-Green Bay
That's 9 teams that either made the playoffs last year or are good teams this year and its even more impressive when you consider they easily defeated some of those teams thanks in large part to Brady. Vick will get some 1st place votes but he will likely finish 2nd in voting behind Brady.
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Originally Posted by DeadsetAce
Originally Posted by hymen man
phillip rivers and matt cassel are just two names ahead of josh freeman in MVP voting...but thanks for coming out and playing
What puts Matt Cassel above Josh Freeman? We got stopped in the redzone twice this season the last play of the game against the Falcons who are supposed to be the NFC's best team. Both games we should have pulled out. If we won either of those and beat the Lions last week with our third string defense out there we would have been 10-4 right now, after being 3-13 last year. Freeman is in his second year throwing to two rookies with an undrafted rookie runningback behind him and only one starter left on his offensive line. He's the unquestioned leader of the youngest team in the league in just his second season. He certainly deserves some type of consideration.
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Originally Posted by DeadsetAce
Originally Posted by hymen man
phillip rivers and matt cassel are just two names ahead of josh freeman in MVP voting...but thanks for coming out and playing
What puts Matt Cassel above Josh Freeman? We got stopped in the redzone twice this season the last play of the game against the Falcons who are supposed to be the NFC's best team. Both games we should have pulled out. If we won either of those and beat the Lions last week with our third string defense out there we would have been 10-4 right now, after being 3-13 last year. Freeman is in his second year throwing to two rookies with an undrafted rookie runningback behind him and only one starter left on his offensive line. He's the unquestioned leader of the youngest team in the league in just his second season. He certainly deserves some type of consideration.
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any questions?Originally Posted by Buc Em
Originally Posted by DeadsetAce
Originally Posted by hymen man
phillip rivers and matt cassel are just two names ahead of josh freeman in MVP voting...but thanks for coming out and playing
What puts Matt Cassel above Josh Freeman? We got stopped in the redzone twice this season the last play of the game against the Falcons who are supposed to be the NFC's best team. Both games we should have pulled out. If we won either of those and if we beat the Lions last week with our third string defense out there we would have been 10-4 right now, after being 3-13 last year. Freeman is in his second year throwing to two rookies with an undrafted rookie runningback behind him and only one starter left on his offensive line. He's the unquestioned leader of the youngest team in the league in just his second season. He certainly deserves some type of consideration.
not saying he isn't doing an excellent job down there. but theres a lot of ifs down there. cassel's team has more wins, he's thrown more TDs, he has a higher rating, less INTs. his team is in right now, while freeman is looking in...as of right now, of course. again, it's a lot if this and shoulda woulda coulda with freeman.
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any questions?Originally Posted by Buc Em
Originally Posted by DeadsetAce
Originally Posted by hymen man
phillip rivers and matt cassel are just two names ahead of josh freeman in MVP voting...but thanks for coming out and playing
What puts Matt Cassel above Josh Freeman? We got stopped in the redzone twice this season the last play of the game against the Falcons who are supposed to be the NFC's best team. Both games we should have pulled out. If we won either of those and if we beat the Lions last week with our third string defense out there we would have been 10-4 right now, after being 3-13 last year. Freeman is in his second year throwing to two rookies with an undrafted rookie runningback behind him and only one starter left on his offensive line. He's the unquestioned leader of the youngest team in the league in just his second season. He certainly deserves some type of consideration.
not saying he isn't doing an excellent job down there. but theres a lot of ifs down there. cassel's team has more wins, he's thrown more TDs, he has a higher rating, less INTs. his team is in right now, while freeman is looking in...as of right now, of course. again, it's a lot if this and shoulda woulda coulda with freeman.
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This is how I feel. Both are playing incredible ball in different ways. I have to say tho...this argument that Brady is playing with trash, and Vick is playing with superstars...
If I recall, not a single analyst picked the Eagles to even so much as sniff the playoffs. In fact, many picked them dead last in the NFC East. So clearly their explosiveness wasn't deemed as being game changing enough for them to win any games with Kolb as the QB. And Kolb is not a bad QB. Now you enter Vick into the equation, and they are suddenly his superstar cast, and Brady is playing with scrubs
Point being...they both have benefits from playing on the teams they play on, and they both are executing at a rate that is just
They both should win.
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This is how I feel. Both are playing incredible ball in different ways. I have to say tho...this argument that Brady is playing with trash, and Vick is playing with superstars...
If I recall, not a single analyst picked the Eagles to even so much as sniff the playoffs. In fact, many picked them dead last in the NFC East. So clearly their explosiveness wasn't deemed as being game changing enough for them to win any games with Kolb as the QB. And Kolb is not a bad QB. Now you enter Vick into the equation, and they are suddenly his superstar cast, and Brady is playing with scrubs
Point being...they both have benefits from playing on the teams they play on, and they both are executing at a rate that is just
They both should win.
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Brady, but if I were an opposing coach, Vick is the last guy in the world i'd want to play against right now.
Imagine if Kolb didnt get nailed and had an okay year.
Imagine if Kolb didnt get nailed and had an okay year.
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Brady, but if I were an opposing coach, Vick is the last guy in the world i'd want to play against right now.
Imagine if Kolb didnt get nailed and had an okay year.
Imagine if Kolb didnt get nailed and had an okay year.
