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Just a question...See this is why i'm seeing that nihilism just kinda shuts down most of these arguments.
YOU DONT EVEN KNOW WHY YOURE DEFENDING WHAT YOURE DEFENDING.
You're just parroting arguments you've been exposed to without getting to the root of what it is you're presenting.
What is marriage? Its always been society-dependent.
Its not an "inherent" or "self evident" thing.
Its not like gravity or math.
its a concept.
An idea.
A notion.
Marriage is nothing more than a business contract we've derived to benefit people who choose to consolidate resources.
You might as well deny gay people the right to exist and kill them off because we've already shown that people can actually be BORN with *****exual attraction, on top of just general bisexual curiosity. Its the desire to define "sex" that leads us to have this problem. Sometimes people just like poking stuff. End of story. Doesn't HAVE to be a vagina. Me personally, I prefer women exclusively but I don't see why I have to hate on the next man who decides otherwise.
Your meaning doesn't even MEAN anything. Understand that before we go any further.
Your concept of marriage has no actual meaning.
You can't use words that aren't even defined to then go further and use that to define something else. That invokes all sorts of degrees of logical fallacies.
Plus, why do you swap definitions of marriage then? On one hand you say about the union, then you say its sex. Which is it? Then why do you overlook the rules and benefits that governments grant some citizens but not others?
I'm not going to stop eating at Chick-Fil-A.
Chick-Fil-A > Gay Marriage
chick-fil-a actively donates to anti-gay organizations. that's more than just refusing to support gay marriage. in fact, they donate millions of dollars every year. wouldn't they be upholding christian values by donating that money to something that actually helps people rather than donating it to fighting a cause that has zero effect on them?
even if that weren't the case, chick-fil-a openly admits that they refuse to support gay marriage because of religious beliefs. so what that means is that they are making political decisions based on religion, not based on what is best for the country. again, this should concern people. the united states is comprised of people with many different religious beliefs. political decisions should be made in the best interest of all, not just some.
i don't agree with religious beliefs of any sort, but i would fight for people's right to believe what they want to believe.
Right...I was gonna write something up, but w/e... peace.
WE NEED A MORE ACCESSIBLE ONE IN NYC...HATE GOING OUT OF TOWN TO EAT THIS GOOD FOOD!
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This is so !#$%ing stupid. Marriage should be a contract signed by two individuals that grant them legal rights. That's it. Doesn't matter who the individuals are; as long as they both sign the contract, they should be legally married. Believe all the religious/spiritual stuff you want, but keep it OUT of the government.
only since the mid 50's^But we're, "One nation, under God"...
someone sounds reeeaaallly putty like in this thread....
i sure hope this isnt the second coming...please no
What is the guiding notion that would preclude you from thinking same-sex couples should not get married?Why are you guys arguing? Its fairly simple. You can't use reasoning that someone else doesn't believe I'm. The argument will always go around and round because you're continuously stuck on phase 1.
Only an idiot wouldnt support gay marriage.Support it if only so theyll shut te **** up.
Sick of hearing them speak. Sick of seeing them march. I dont care about your sexual preference. Do you and ill do me.
End the madness. Let them marry and stop being a bigot, redneck, bible thumping idiot.I
Yeah, screw equal protection and recognition under the law!Oh word?Only an idiot wouldnt support gay marriage.Support it if only so theyll shut te **** up.
Sick of hearing them speak. Sick of seeing them march. I dont care about your sexual preference. Do you and ill do me.
End the madness. Let them marry and stop being a bigot, redneck, bible thumping idiot.I
I could say the same thing about people that support it.
This is why I love NT, If you're not a sheep like everyone else, You're an idiot.
I think divorce rates are high because humanity has more options. We know that there is "more out there" and fewer people are willing to settle. People are staying in touch with more people they would have normally forgotten about. I also think divorce is high because theres no real need for it anymore. People increasingly don't cling to dogma so there is no inherent ritual in the matter.Just a question...See this is why i'm seeing that nihilism just kinda shuts down most of these arguments.
YOU DONT EVEN KNOW WHY YOURE DEFENDING WHAT YOURE DEFENDING.
You're just parroting arguments you've been exposed to without getting to the root of what it is you're presenting.
What is marriage? Its always been society-dependent.
Its not an "inherent" or "self evident" thing.
Its not like gravity or math.
its a concept.
An idea.
A notion.
Marriage is nothing more than a business contract we've derived to benefit people who choose to consolidate resources.
You might as well deny gay people the right to exist and kill them off because we've already shown that people can actually be BORN with *****exual attraction, on top of just general bisexual curiosity. Its the desire to define "sex" that leads us to have this problem. Sometimes people just like poking stuff. End of story. Doesn't HAVE to be a vagina. Me personally, I prefer women exclusively but I don't see why I have to hate on the next man who decides otherwise.
Your meaning doesn't even MEAN anything. Understand that before we go any further.
Your concept of marriage has no actual meaning.
You can't use words that aren't even defined to then go further and use that to define something else. That invokes all sorts of degrees of logical fallacies.
Plus, why do you swap definitions of marriage then? On one hand you say about the union, then you say its sex. Which is it? Then why do you overlook the rules and benefits that governments grant some citizens but not others?
Do you feel these contracts may be the reason why divorce rates are so high? I can't say for sure, but I feel like this wasn't the thinking back when our parents or grandparents were doing it. Not to say they were doing it right.
I am a Christian man, but I do feel that people should not be discriminated against for any reason. So that means i'm going to Chick-Fil-A tomorrow, but I won't say thank you or be happy about it.