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They never said that they are anti-gay, they just don't support gay marriage
Sometimes people don't know how to distinguish between these two points unfortunately.
I'm don't hate black people, I just don't want them to have the same rights I do.Sometimes people don't know how to distinguish between these two points unfortunately.They never said that they are anti-gay, they just don't support gay marriage
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I'm don't hate black people, I just don't want them to have the same rights I do.
I'm don't hate black people, I just don't want them to have the same rights I do.
Thanks for taking the time to respond to a "newbie"I think divorce rates are high because humanity has more options. We know that there is "more out there" and fewer people are willing to settle. People are staying in touch with more people they would have normally forgotten about. I also think divorce is high because theres no real need for it anymore. People increasingly don't cling to dogma so there is no inherent ritual in the matter.
Divorce stats also depend on what you're looking at.
People with higher education tend to get married later BUT they stay together much longer.
People who get married younger tend to not stay together as long.
People who are struggling financially don't stay married as long.
Apparently (I don't really know how true this is) non-religious/secular people stay together longer.
There are all sorts of qualifiers.
Stuff like birth control and sex education exists as well as sex being generally embraced more responsibly instead of being seen as some taboo, backroom subject.
I can't say its a "good" or "bad" thing, it merely is just an evolution in the infrastructure of society at this point.
Basically, if you want the best opinions on why divorce is so high, listen to a conservative radio-jock. We've moved beyond a society that they favored in decades past but our notion of the future isn't something we're willing to fully be honest with ourselves embrace so thats why we seem to be spinning our wheels on the matter.
Marriage isn't what it used to be, because it never really was "anything" in the first place. We're just now realizing it.
BTW, I know you say you're a "christian man," whatever you think that means, but how does it feel to challenge the verbatim text in your bible with your own internal moral conflict? Are you morally superior to a book and an entity that you simultaneously defer moral superiority to otherwise?
Who is making these decisions and how valid are they? You, or your bible?
Ideologically, I'm finding that its easier for me to respect fundamentalists because they're at least honest in their discrimination and bigotry. The bible says we should kill gays, several times. Its not ambiguous or even a question. Both in the old and new testament. The bible is clear on what it says about gays. But who are you as a self proclaimed "christian man" to really challenge that? Would a true believer really take fault with his religion?
I say this NOT to "come at you," but to merely see how rooted your faith is and what is the basis of thought you use to distinguish what you really believe, from what you WANT to believe i.e., picking and choosing.
exactly.Truth.
No rebuttal, from anyone in this thread....
Silly putty is running circles around everyone in this thread. People think they're debating but not ONE point that he's made has been countered.
I'm not going to stop eating at Chick-Fil-A.
Chick-Fil-A > Gay Marriage
No. Thats not legally binding and wouldn't stand up in court unless you get a power of attorney...essentially sign the documents and go through the paperwork etc. It would go to the state or something. Thats why this stuff is so important.Questions: If I never get married, don't have any family, all I have is my best friend and I'm on my death bed. I couldn't leave the "right of life" decision to my buddy? Couldn't I give my belonging so that said friend through a last will and testament? I don't know the legal definition of consolidation of wealth, but whats stopping them from just putting both their names on a bank account? If its a bout tax cuts, why do married people get cuts and not single people? What about single people's right????
Its not intolerant for me to stop wanting to mess with your business because you slept with my best friend.Last question is semi serious.
Also I think the SillyPutty cameo through the thread off track. No one is against gay marriage(I'm not at least), we're against, if anything, people boycotting Chic-fil-a because they said they're gonna to go buy what the bible says. Shunning Chic-fil-a for going by "The Book", wouldn't that be like shunning people for their sexual orientation? Truth be told its intolerence both ways. Aren't both parties not liking each other for their beliefs?
people only use the bible and bible quotes when its convenient for them, but will ignore it if its applicable to their lives. these kind of people are the worst.Questions: If I never get married, don't have any family, all I have is my best friend and I'm on my death bed. I couldn't leave the "right of life" decision to my buddy? Couldn't I give my belonging so that said friend through a last will and testament? I don't know the legal definition of consolidation of wealth, but whats stopping them from just putting both their names on a bank account? If its a bout tax cuts, why do married people get cuts and not single people? What about single people's right????
Last question is semi serious.
Also I think the SillyPutty cameo through the thread off track. No one is against gay marriage(I'm not at least), we're against, if anything, people boycotting Chic-fil-a because they said they're gonna to go buy what the bible says. Shunning Chic-fil-a for going by "The Book", wouldn't that be like shunning people for their sexual orientation? Truth be told its intolerence both ways. Aren't both parties not liking each other for their beliefs?
+1+1I'm don't hate black people, I just don't want them to have the same rights I do.
I agree with you on everything except the followingIm not understanding how someone could not be anti gay if theyre against same sex marriage . If u think gays shouldnt be allowed to marry, you arent comfortable with gays and therefore are anti gay.
And NO you cannot compare *****exuals to african americans in regards to civil rights. When u wake up, everyone knows youre black. No one lnows ur a *****exual until u start parading around telling ppl. Ive dabbled in ******g fat chicks, but it doesnt define who i am. *****exuals arent a race , its just a sexual preference. Gays need to stop feeling themselves loke theyre something special. Compare ur plights to
The plights of black ppl and ur an idiot. That being said anyone should be able to marry whoever they want.
I love women. Im as straight as they come. Im worried about myself, my family, my bank account and my vagina intake. Couldnt care less who ***** who . Any stance other than that, imma have to assume youre suspectone of my main homies from way back is gay anf i smoke Ls with him on te regular. He knows how i do and he knows how he does. Who cares?
You claim to not be "anti-gay" but you can't just say "well I have no thoughts on the matter" in terms of them getting rights. So what are you? I'm not anti-arab, I just don't want them flying on the same planes as me. So what does that really mean?
NEWS UPDATE:
Chick-fil-A’s Vice President of Public Relations Dies of Heart Attack
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politic...ent-of-public-relations-dies-of-heart-attack/
Rest in grease, *****.
Why do you have to be so disrespectful??NEWS UPDATE:
Chick-fil-A’s Vice President of Public Relations Dies of Heart Attack
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politic...ent-of-public-relations-dies-of-heart-attack/
Rest in grease, *****.
I agree with you on everything except the following
You can't compare the events of one movement to the events of the feminist movement to the abortion rights movement to the Irish movement to the catholic movement...
They're separate movements for a reason...they have different names, events, features, and beneficiaries.
HOWEVER, you need to stop thinking that the civil rights movement was ONLY for "black" people...there were protections that ALL people gained in the 60s and that didn't end there either.
So yes, its stupid to compare different movements...in as much as its stupid to compare denominations of christianity. They're essentially all the same thing with the same goal for HUMAN RIGHTS AND EQUAL PROTECTION AND OPPORTUNITY UNDER THE LAW.
Don't claim to be a purveyor of the recognition of the term "civil rights" when you fail to do so for others whom you share nothing with, essentially contradicting the very meaning of the word.
My fellow knee-grows start to remind me of modern jews/israelis who use the halocaust to compare to EVERYTHING else while neglecting the granting of rights to everyone since then. We get it, you had it rough...would you rather go through it again or move forward?
Listening to rap music doesn't grant favored protections and benefits from the government.So if I asked my grandmother who she would rather see in a concert, Lil B or Gucci Mane, and she says she doesn't have an opinion, does that make her anti-rap?? She doesn't listen to rap music, its not apart of her life.You claim to not be "anti-gay" but you can't just say "well I have no thoughts on the matter" in terms of them getting rights. So what are you? I'm not anti-arab, I just don't want them flying on the same planes as me. So what does that really mean?
There are some issues on which your stance matters and others on which it doesn't.Gay marriage, today, doesn't effect me in my life, so how is it that I have to have a stance on it?
If its subject to changing, why limit it in the first place? You can't say that you're liable to switch sides if you're unwilling to have a position in the first place...Now down the road I may have children that maybe gay and my tune may change. I never said I didn't want them to do or have anything.
I don't care and frankly, its immature to even allow this sort of thinking to slide by.I still see it as Chic-fil-a being judged by they're beliefs. They didn't write The Bible. How are you going to be mad at them for believing something that was supposedly said well before any of this? Is one supposed to change their beliefs and values to keep up with the times?
Good.For the record, I don't think we are arguing, just having disscussion.