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all im going to say is quality > quantity. Thats where Ross is smashing jeezy. In every since of the rap game too, not just music.
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Originally Posted by cartune
Momentum = 53K first week?
Momentum doesnt mean posting songs and videos on blogs everyweek
Im not speaking out my $$% I've heard actual people over there say that that #%@%+'s projects lose money. Teflon Don was an expensive album look at the features and the production credits. and the #%@%+ JUST went gold a couple weeks ago. With no big single to lean on. The #**#* a business my dude.
Jeezy had a hit record last year and didnt even put out an album. Now he has another one climbing the charts. Yea he might be irrelevant and hated on the internet but obviously that doesnt translate to sells. Because let the internet tell it Ross has been the biggest rap artist in the game for a while now but them numbers tho..
and if you think those mah****as are the BIGGEST artists on Def Jam I guess you never heard of Justin Beiber..Rihanna..Kanye West..
Originally Posted by cartune
Momentum = 53K first week?
Momentum doesnt mean posting songs and videos on blogs everyweek
Im not speaking out my $$% I've heard actual people over there say that that #%@%+'s projects lose money. Teflon Don was an expensive album look at the features and the production credits. and the #%@%+ JUST went gold a couple weeks ago. With no big single to lean on. The #**#* a business my dude.
Jeezy had a hit record last year and didnt even put out an album. Now he has another one climbing the charts. Yea he might be irrelevant and hated on the internet but obviously that doesnt translate to sells. Because let the internet tell it Ross has been the biggest rap artist in the game for a while now but them numbers tho..
and if you think those mah****as are the BIGGEST artists on Def Jam I guess you never heard of Justin Beiber..Rihanna..Kanye West..
Originally Posted by TheSwagOfSweetJones
Originally Posted by CParkFresh
Originally Posted by NostrandAve68
Ross got cats hypnotized, he's really done a great job of making an allusion that he's the hottest in the game.USDA first album sold 95K first week with less buzz and promotion than Self Made.
The Real Is Back intro >>>>>>>>>
QFT
If USDA dropped an album right now that @!%% would flop
Originally Posted by TheSwagOfSweetJones
Originally Posted by CParkFresh
Originally Posted by NostrandAve68
Ross got cats hypnotized, he's really done a great job of making an allusion that he's the hottest in the game.USDA first album sold 95K first week with less buzz and promotion than Self Made.
The Real Is Back intro >>>>>>>>>
QFT
If USDA dropped an album right now that @!%% would flop
Originally Posted by LuketheJediKnight
Originally Posted by cartune
Momentum = 53K first week?
Momentum doesnt mean posting songs and videos on blogs everyweek
Im not speaking out my $$% I've heard actual people over there say that that #%@%+'s projects lose money. Teflon Don was an expensive album look at the features and the production credits. and the #%@%+ JUST went gold a couple weeks ago. With no big single to lean on. The #**#* a business my dude.
Jeezy had a hit record last year and didnt even put out an album. Now he has another one climbing the charts. Yea he might be irrelevant and hated on the internet but obviously that doesnt translate to sells. Because let the internet tell it Ross has been the biggest rap artist in the game for a while now but them numbers tho..
and if you think those mah****as are the BIGGEST artists on Def Jam I guess you never heard of Justin Beiber..Rihanna..Kanye West..
CHUUCH
Originally Posted by LuketheJediKnight
Originally Posted by cartune
Momentum = 53K first week?
Momentum doesnt mean posting songs and videos on blogs everyweek
Im not speaking out my $$% I've heard actual people over there say that that #%@%+'s projects lose money. Teflon Don was an expensive album look at the features and the production credits. and the #%@%+ JUST went gold a couple weeks ago. With no big single to lean on. The #**#* a business my dude.
Jeezy had a hit record last year and didnt even put out an album. Now he has another one climbing the charts. Yea he might be irrelevant and hated on the internet but obviously that doesnt translate to sells. Because let the internet tell it Ross has been the biggest rap artist in the game for a while now but them numbers tho..
and if you think those mah****as are the BIGGEST artists on Def Jam I guess you never heard of Justin Beiber..Rihanna..Kanye West..
CHUUCH
Hmmmm. Based off wha you jus' said, I would keep Jeezy.Originally Posted by cartune
Originally Posted by DipsetGeneral
Wait a minute, Ross got dropped from Def Jam?! I wonder what Def Jam is thinkin' to themselves right now...
Dude fullfilled his contract & Def Jam didnt resign him Ross doesnt sell albums (with bigger budgets) his biggest single was that song with T-Pain. For whatever reason his bigger songs dont even chart well.
Jeezy sells records (3 platinum albums) a slew of platinum singles a much bigger and lucrative catalog who would you keep?
Hmmmm. Based off wha you jus' said, I would keep Jeezy.Originally Posted by cartune
Originally Posted by DipsetGeneral
Wait a minute, Ross got dropped from Def Jam?! I wonder what Def Jam is thinkin' to themselves right now...
Dude fullfilled his contract & Def Jam didnt resign him Ross doesnt sell albums (with bigger budgets) his biggest single was that song with T-Pain. For whatever reason his bigger songs dont even chart well.
Jeezy sells records (3 platinum albums) a slew of platinum singles a much bigger and lucrative catalog who would you keep?
Originally Posted by 2o6
Originally Posted by LuketheJediKnight
Originally Posted by cartune
Momentum = 53K first week?
Momentum doesnt mean posting songs and videos on blogs everyweek
Im not speaking out my $$% I've heard actual people over there say that that #%@%+'s projects lose money. Teflon Don was an expensive album look at the features and the production credits. and the #%@%+ JUST went gold a couple weeks ago. With no big single to lean on. The #**#* a business my dude.
Jeezy had a hit record last year and didnt even put out an album. Now he has another one climbing the charts. Yea he might be irrelevant and hated on the internet but obviously that doesnt translate to sells. Because let the internet tell it Ross has been the biggest rap artist in the game for a while now but them numbers tho..
and if you think those mah****as are the BIGGEST artists on Def Jam I guess you never heard of Justin Beiber..Rihanna..Kanye West..
CHUUCH
didnt ye JUST GO PLAT?
ye' spends the budget and a half.
i dont think he's ever made a video for a official single under 300k
credited writers on Dark Twisted Fantasy
Robert Diggs,
Ernest Wilson,
Jeff Bhasker,
Mike Dean,
Malik Jones
Larry Griffin Jr.,
Dean, Bhasker,
Andwele Gardner,
Ken Lewis
Warren Trotter
Justin Vernon
Gil Scott-Heron
Justin Franks,
Warren Trotter
Producers
No I.D
Jeff Bhasker
Bink!
Plain Pat
The RZA
DJ Frank E
S1
etc.....
DAWG GOT elton john.................................ELTON JOHN
LET ME GUESS , ELTON JOHN HOPPED ON "OFF THE STRENGTH" for free
Fergie
swizz beatz
Jay-z
nicki minaj
etc.
what was def jams bill for those hawaiian studio sessions?
artwork=goerge condo
A GOERGE CONDO GOES FOR 10 RACKS
MY DUDE HAD LIKE 5 COVERS......
HE SHOT A 30 MINUTE MOVIE
all for something in the range of 970k-1.1mill
to put it in prespective black rob did those numbers in 01
nicki out sold him....
Def jam was very.....very dissapointed
Why Have Sales of Kanye West's 'My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy' Declined So Drastically?
diciembre 23, 2010
By Mariel Concepcion
http://www.billboard.biz/...autiful-1004137168.story
After topping the Billboard 200 chart a month ago with his fifth studio album, "My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy," which sold 496,000 copies its first week, according to Nielsen Soundscan, Kanye West has nothing short of disappeared selling 67,000 this past week.
Following his "Today" show meltdown a few weeks ago, the rapper/producer made the decision to cancel all further interviews to promote the album. One of his only public appearances since then was a performance at the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade where he was roundly booed. And now, after posting up to eight tweets a day on Twitter this past summer, Kanye West hasn't made as much as a peep on a social networking site since Dec. 18.
As a result, four weeks after his album was released, "My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy" was the only non-second-week release in the top 20 to show a sales decline this week. All but 43 of the albums on the Billboard 200 chart saw an increase in sales thanks to consumers stocking up on Christmas gifts. And in the top 50 only seven sets posted a decline, including West's.
Of the seven, four are Christmas albums, which usually drop in sales around this time; two are albums in their second week on the chart, so it's natural to see a sophomore frame decrease; and one is, you guessed it, Kanye West's "My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy," which moved down to No. 23.
Considering the album topped nearly every "Album of the Year" list, including Billboard's, the recent numbers beg the question, what caused the sudden decline? Is it the lack of physical promotion and Twittering? Did the "Today" show debacle hurt his sales? Or was it the fact that Kanye himself released almost half of the songs off the album as leaks before the actual release that caused the disinterest?
"I don't think it has much to do with him leaking half the album before it hit stores," says Carl Chery, Executive Music Editor for BET Digital. "If that was the case, I think his first week numbers would have been lower. The Matt Lauer and 'Taylor didn't defend me' rant didn't help. Up to that point it was, 'we love Kanye. Welcome back!' But shortly after that rant, he got booed at the Macys parade."
Ebro Darden, PD for New York radio station Hot 97, says that while "most albums naturally decline after the first week...we all can assume" this is occurring on such a huge scale for "Beautiful" because West isn't doing much promotions lately. The leaking of the music leading up to the album's release, Darden says, "is another good assumption" as to why his album sales are flagging.
as apposed to what?
a few lex luger beats, in house video's and a verse from gucci for 400k and 500k distributed every 11 months , and a compilation in the summer that'll top at 90k by years end?
Originally Posted by 2o6
Originally Posted by LuketheJediKnight
Originally Posted by cartune
Momentum = 53K first week?
Momentum doesnt mean posting songs and videos on blogs everyweek
Im not speaking out my $$% I've heard actual people over there say that that #%@%+'s projects lose money. Teflon Don was an expensive album look at the features and the production credits. and the #%@%+ JUST went gold a couple weeks ago. With no big single to lean on. The #**#* a business my dude.
Jeezy had a hit record last year and didnt even put out an album. Now he has another one climbing the charts. Yea he might be irrelevant and hated on the internet but obviously that doesnt translate to sells. Because let the internet tell it Ross has been the biggest rap artist in the game for a while now but them numbers tho..
and if you think those mah****as are the BIGGEST artists on Def Jam I guess you never heard of Justin Beiber..Rihanna..Kanye West..
CHUUCH
didnt ye JUST GO PLAT?
ye' spends the budget and a half.
i dont think he's ever made a video for a official single under 300k
credited writers on Dark Twisted Fantasy
Robert Diggs,
Ernest Wilson,
Jeff Bhasker,
Mike Dean,
Malik Jones
Larry Griffin Jr.,
Dean, Bhasker,
Andwele Gardner,
Ken Lewis
Warren Trotter
Justin Vernon
Gil Scott-Heron
Justin Franks,
Warren Trotter
Producers
No I.D
Jeff Bhasker
Bink!
Plain Pat
The RZA
DJ Frank E
S1
etc.....
DAWG GOT elton john.................................ELTON JOHN
LET ME GUESS , ELTON JOHN HOPPED ON "OFF THE STRENGTH" for free
Fergie
swizz beatz
Jay-z
nicki minaj
etc.
what was def jams bill for those hawaiian studio sessions?
artwork=goerge condo
A GOERGE CONDO GOES FOR 10 RACKS
MY DUDE HAD LIKE 5 COVERS......
HE SHOT A 30 MINUTE MOVIE
all for something in the range of 970k-1.1mill
to put it in prespective black rob did those numbers in 01
nicki out sold him....
Def jam was very.....very dissapointed
Why Have Sales of Kanye West's 'My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy' Declined So Drastically?
diciembre 23, 2010
By Mariel Concepcion
http://www.billboard.biz/...autiful-1004137168.story
After topping the Billboard 200 chart a month ago with his fifth studio album, "My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy," which sold 496,000 copies its first week, according to Nielsen Soundscan, Kanye West has nothing short of disappeared selling 67,000 this past week.
Following his "Today" show meltdown a few weeks ago, the rapper/producer made the decision to cancel all further interviews to promote the album. One of his only public appearances since then was a performance at the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade where he was roundly booed. And now, after posting up to eight tweets a day on Twitter this past summer, Kanye West hasn't made as much as a peep on a social networking site since Dec. 18.
As a result, four weeks after his album was released, "My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy" was the only non-second-week release in the top 20 to show a sales decline this week. All but 43 of the albums on the Billboard 200 chart saw an increase in sales thanks to consumers stocking up on Christmas gifts. And in the top 50 only seven sets posted a decline, including West's.
Of the seven, four are Christmas albums, which usually drop in sales around this time; two are albums in their second week on the chart, so it's natural to see a sophomore frame decrease; and one is, you guessed it, Kanye West's "My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy," which moved down to No. 23.
Considering the album topped nearly every "Album of the Year" list, including Billboard's, the recent numbers beg the question, what caused the sudden decline? Is it the lack of physical promotion and Twittering? Did the "Today" show debacle hurt his sales? Or was it the fact that Kanye himself released almost half of the songs off the album as leaks before the actual release that caused the disinterest?
"I don't think it has much to do with him leaking half the album before it hit stores," says Carl Chery, Executive Music Editor for BET Digital. "If that was the case, I think his first week numbers would have been lower. The Matt Lauer and 'Taylor didn't defend me' rant didn't help. Up to that point it was, 'we love Kanye. Welcome back!' But shortly after that rant, he got booed at the Macys parade."
Ebro Darden, PD for New York radio station Hot 97, says that while "most albums naturally decline after the first week...we all can assume" this is occurring on such a huge scale for "Beautiful" because West isn't doing much promotions lately. The leaking of the music leading up to the album's release, Darden says, "is another good assumption" as to why his album sales are flagging.
as apposed to what?
a few lex luger beats, in house video's and a verse from gucci for 400k and 500k distributed every 11 months , and a compilation in the summer that'll top at 90k by years end?
Ross got cats hypnotized, he's really done a great job of making an illusion that he's the hottest in the game.USDA first album sold 95K first week with less buzz and promotion than Self Made.
Ross got cats hypnotized, he's really done a great job of making an illusion that he's the hottest in the game.USDA first album sold 95K first week with less buzz and promotion than Self Made.
Originally Posted by 2o6
kanye>ross , im not debating that.
and i mentioned it because ye's DEF JAM'S biggest rap artist.