09 Real Deal College Football Discussion/No Homers - Lets geh geh GET IT!

Originally Posted by Fear The Ibis

You can back track. Because you can only sign 25 in one class now. So if you don't sign the full 25 you can use EE's too count towards the 25 you didn't sign the previous year.

That's only way teams can sign 30 kids now. If you only signed 20 the previous class, you can have 5 EE's and then 25 summer/fall signees. Which gives you 30 in one offseason but technically its 30 split into two separate recruiting classes.
Yeah.

I always thought that Greyshirts could be attributed to the next years class and that EE's could be attributed to the prior years class because EE'ssimply enroll in school and don't sign scholarship papers. They sign some kind of grant document, right?
 
I might be late as hell but @@+# it. I just saw this yesterday for the first time and can't stop
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Anybody watching the Air Force/Houston game?
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Back-to-back kickoff returns for touchdowns coming out of the half
 
I don't know the formal procedure but I would think they'd have to be on scholarship to be able to participate in spring practice and live and eat oncampus.

They just don't have to sign a letter of intent. Which is all signing day is about anyway. Not the actual scholarship process. Cuz you can sign a LOI onNSD and still end up going somewhere else.
 
Originally Posted by Fear The Ibis

I don't know the formal procedure but I would think they'd have to be on scholarship to be able to participate in spring practice and live and eat on campus.
Walk-ons participate in the spring and live/eat on campus.

Lemme try to find it...I could be (probably am) wrong but I don't think they sign scholly papers. Or it could be that they just bypass the LOI and I amsimply confusing myself.
 
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the DT for OU just Broke his ankle, looks like the same way that A&M bball player did

EDIT

was Adrian Taylor

CBS didn't even show the replay it was so nasty
 
they definitely will be on papers when they put the pads on.

and the back track only counts if u didnt get the max schollys the previous yr.
ehh, if u a big time school, u got no business not handin out the limit of schollys regardless.
 
When you have kids transfer or if recruits don't qualify, or head to juco/prep or whatever it frees up extra schollies. So then you can take EE's plusthe 25 reg signees the NCAA allows you as long as you don't go over 85.
 
Originally Posted by dreClark

Gus Mahlzan (sp?) to TTU ?
The early short list right now looks like:
1. Art Briles
2. Ruffin McNeill



3. Sonny +@@#$

Supposedly Sonny +@@#$ ruined his chances last night after Arizona's offensive performance. Ruffin McNeill is supposedly auditioning for the job onSaturday, and how the team plays could be a big factor in how much of a look he gets. If Tech can round up the money, I wouldn't be surprised at all to seeBriles end up there. They (Tech boosters) were communicating with him last year when Leach and Meyers were battling over contract disputes.

If Briles doesn't leave Baylor, and McNeill doesn't please the Tech people during the Alamo Bowl, I wouldn't be surprised to see them give Malzahna look though. Apparently they might not even look at Tuberville, despite his interest.
 
Taggert Stanford's RB coach is rocking a WKU Hilltoppers shirt during the game, he trying to lure some recruits or what?
 
Rivals is not giving ay love for the QBs this year. I don't expect them to because they are not world beaters but I heard the QBs had a decent day andBarton is hating on Gardner even though Scout said he was money on all but 1 throw.
 
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December 31, 2009
[h1]Whispers: Can UF keep class and close strong?[/h1]
Mike Farrell
Recruiting Analyst
MORE: UF recruits try to get handle on Meyer situation | All-star games coverage
What a weekend for Florida.

First, coach Urban Meyer resigned and was all set to leave behind a short but amazing legacy in Gainesville. Then, a day later, Meyer announced he simply was taking a leave of absence - and recruits were being told he would be back on the sideline this fall.
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Trey Burton has been working the phones for Florida.
Will Meyer's decision to take a leave of absence keep this Florida class intact and allow the Gators to close strong - or has the damage been done?
We do know a few things. First, UF's only quarterback in the class of 2010, Trey Burton, is about as solid a commitment as there is. Burton, from Naples (Fla.) High, worked the phones while news was flooding out about Meyer over the weekend. Burton talked to key commitments and tried to keep them calm and in the fold. He spoke to recruits such as offensive lineman Ian Silberman, defensive back Jaylen Watkins and wide receiver Solomon Patton, and each is expected to sign with the Gators.

Right now, it appears Burton, Silberman, Patton, Watkins, defensive tackle/offensive lineman Leon Orr, running back Mack Brown, tight end Gerald Christian, defensive end Lynden Trail, wide receiver Quinton Dunbar, tight end Michael McFarland, athlete Travon Van, defensive end Neiron Ball, cornerback Joshua Shaw, athlete Jonathan Dowling and defensive back Jordan Haden seem solid to Florida.

Orr was thinking of taking a few visits, but sources say he has backed off that a bit. Florida State is pursuing Trail, but he and Dunbar - teammates at Miami Booker T. Washington - want to play together. With Dunbar so solid, it is unlikely Trail is going anywhere. As for Shaw, sources say he was upset and ready to eliminate Florida, but he did an about-face when Meyer changed his mind and now is set to enroll next week.

That still leaves quite a few prospects as question marks. The biggest name is obviously five-star defensive back Matt Elam, who was all set to be an early enrollee at Florida. Now, Elam is playing high school basketball and apparently has decided to remain at Palm Beach Gardens (Fla.) Dwyer through the end of the school year. That means a huge recruiting battle is brewing for Elam. Florida State is the biggest threat to the Gators, followed by Tennessee and West Virginia. But if Meyer truly is returning, Florida still has to be considered the team to beat.

Still, the Gators are keeping in contact with safety Dietrich Riley, of La Canada (Calif.) St. Francis. Riley could take an official visit in January, which is newsworthy because Florida had backed off every other safety prospect on their board because of Elam's commitment.

Elam's teammate, wide receiver Robert Clark, might re-consider, too. At one time, Clark was a West Virginia commitment, and he might look at Auburn and a few others. But he always has been a huge Gators fan and he's tight with Christian, also a high school teammate. More than likely, Clark will stick with his commitment. But he might not be able to enroll early, as he had planned, so this still could get interesting.

Linebacker Gideon Ajagbe is saying all the right things, but keep an eye on South Carolina here. Ajagbe, from Miami Ransom Everglades, has been in contact with the Gamecocks, and there were rumors of a flip even before the Meyer drama.

Defensive back Demar Dorsey of Lauderdale Lakes (Fla.) Boyd Anderson has made no secret about his intention to take other visits. He will visit Tennessee, West Virginia and possibly Alabama and some others before making his final decision. Tennessee appears to be the biggest threat here.
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Cody Riggs could take another look at Georgia and Tennessee.
Finally, cornerback Cody Riggs of Fort Lauderdale (Fla.) St. Thomas Aquinas is expected to take another look at Tennessee and Georgia before making a final decision.
All in all, most of the class should remain intact. But when it comes to uncommitted targets, things don't look as rosy. Four five-star prospects - offensive tackle Seantrel Henderson, defensive end/tight end Ronald Powell, defensive tackle Sharrif Floyd and linebacker Jordan Hicks - have been affected by the happenings over the weekend. Sources say Meyer's flip-flop likely was the end of Florida's chances with Hicks and Henderson. Hicks already was souring on Florida after defensive coordinator Charlie Strong left to become coach at Louisville; with Meyer's situation in flux, Texas has emerged as the team to beat. Hicks was rumored to be committing at the Under Armour Game but he has since backed off and now will announce on National Signing Day.

As for Henderson, Florida was a long shot, anyway, and trailed Ohio State and USC heading into his recent official visit.

With Powell, the Gators had a big lead for his services before the weekend, but sources say things have changed. With no defensive coordinator in place and no certainty about Meyer's return, Powell is expected to take a much longer look at USC now. Shaw being in the fold and enrolling early helps the Gators' chances.

Floyd already was leaning toward Ohio State, and the Meyer situation is likely to push him toward Columbus even more, with North Carolina moving up.

Florida was fading for Tampa Catholic teammates Christian Green and Chaz Green before the weekend. Christian now favors Florida State in a big way, followed by Georgia and Florida. Chaz Green has been a serious lean to Tennessee for quite some time.

Miramar (Fla.) High wide receiver Ivan McCartney is hard to read, but word has it that Miami is looking more and more attractive. He also had interest in West Virginia and Florida, but WVU lost ace recruiter Doc Holliday and Florida lost wide receiver coach Billy Gonzales. Miami gets McCartney's last official visit.

The only top target for the Gators that still is considered a heavy lean is wide receiver Chris Dunkley of Pahokee (Fla.) High, who is expected to choose the Gators this weekend at the Under Armour all-star game.

Decisions coming

A few top prospects are expected to announce their decisions at the Under Armour event.

Dunkley is expected to choose Florida, but a few other prospects are a little harder to read.
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Darius White is set to announce on Saturday.
Fort Worth (Texas) Dunbar wide receiver Darius White has been the subject of much speculation. At one point he looked like a lock for Oklahoma, but something happened in November and he began to look around a bit. He took an official visit to Texas on Nov. 20 and was supposed to visit OU in early December; instead, he took an official to Oklahoma State on Dec. 11. While the Sooners' coaching staff still has hope he will end up at OU, Texas and Oklahoma State seem to have more momentum.
Cornerback John Fulton of Manning (S.C.) High has been equally hard to read. Fulton lists a final three of Florida, Alabama and South Carolina, but you can take the Gators out of the mix. Most sources think he'll choose Alabama, but Fulton's father - who is in the service - is a big South Carolina fan. The dad is coming home on leave for the announcement, and the Gamecocks were Fulton's leader as recently as late November.

Wide receiver Kenny Shaw of Orlando Dr. Phillips and defensive end Dominique Easley of Staten Island (N.Y.) Curtis also are expected to announce at the game. Shaw appears to be a lock for Florida State, while Easley lists Miami, Oregon and Penn State after backing off from his commitment to the Nittany Lions. But this one will likely come down to Oregon or Penn State.

Finally, former Notre Dame commitment Toney Hurd Jr. of Missouri City (Texas) Marshall is expected to announce for Texas A&M at the game.

The U.S. Army Game is a week from Saturday, and the following prospects have signed up to make their decisions on the air - Floyd; defensive end Gabe King; defensive backs Victor Hampton, Demetrius Wright and Dior Mathis; linebacker C.J. Mosley; and athletes Marquis Flowers and Latwan Anderson. We'll have much more on where they are leaning during our week-long coverage of the Army game live from San Antonio.

FSU ready to close

Is there a hotter team in the nation right now than Florida State?

The Seminoles landed four-star junior college cornerback Mike Harris, four-star linebacker Jeff Luc and five-star cornerback Lamarcus Joyner before the break, and they have put themselves in position to land numerous big-time prospects down the stretch. By cleaning up the coaching mess, FSU suddenly is a hot commodity again.

As mentioned above, Shaw is headed to FSU. Barring anything strange, Christian Green will be a 'Nole, too. It's likely that linebacker Christian Jones of Casselberry (Fla.) Lake Howell will end up in Tallahassee, as well. Jones was rumored to be a silent commitment to the 'Noles back in the summer and now is a strong lean. Things have improved with defensive end Corey Lemonier of Miami American, and it wouldn't be a shock to see him and cornerback Terrence Mitchell of Tampa Hillsborough end up signing with FSU.
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Can the Seminoles turn Florida commit Matt Elam?
There's also no reason FSU fans can't dream of stealing away Elam. While it's still a bit of a long shot, coach Jimbo Fisher is making a huge effort to recruit Elam personally and Elam is friendly with many FSU commitments.
FSU's could earn its first top-five finish in the team recruiting rankings since 2006.

Louisville is hot

Georgia linebacker commitment B.J. Butler, from Kissimmee (Fla.) Osceola, could end up flipping to Louisville after he takes an official visit there on Jan. 8.

Butler was interested in Florida even after committing to Georgia and took a visit to Gainesville during the season. Now that former Florida defensive coordinator Charlie Strong is in charge at Louisville, sources say Butler will end up with the Cardinals if he gets an offer.

Strong recently surprised many by grabbing a commitment from Miami Northwestern wide receiver Michaelee Harris. While Miami, West Virginia and Tennessee remain in the hunt, the commitments from Harris and teammate Corvin Lamb could mean Louisville turns Northwestern defensive tackle Todd Chandler. Chandler, who originally committed to Miami before switching and choosing USF, will take an official visit to Louisville in January.

Etc.

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Things are getting a bit worrisome at North Carolina when it comes to two key positions. The biggest area of need is along the defensive line, where UNC might be forced to go the junior college route. Unless the Heels pull a big surprise and steal away Floyd, Brandon Willis of Duncan (S.C.) Byrnes or FSU commitment Tavaris Barnes of Jacksonville First Coast, they will be hoping to land Kareem Martin of Roanoke Rapids (N.C.) High and Ethan Farmer of Tabor City (N.C.) South Columbus. The Heels also could possibly get a junior college end and tackle. At running back, they were hoping to be a finalist for Marcus Lattimore of Duncan (S.C.) Byrnes, with Corvin Lamb and Mustafa Greene of Irmo (S.C.) High as fallbacks. But now that they are out on all three, the Heels will make a huge push for Miami Central's Brandon Gainer, although he's likely to end up at UCF. Rutgers commitment Casey Turner of Jacksonville Ed White will visit in January, and he could be the player the Heels get in the end.

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Texas Tech wide receiver commitment Kadron Boone of Ocala (Fla.) Trinity Catholic could up at Florida now that Red Raiders coach Mike Leach has been fired. Florida has commitments from three wide receivers - Patton, Clark and Dunbar - with Dowling and one or two others also potential receivers. But with Christian Green all but gone to FSU, McCartney iffy at best and only Dunkley an apparent lock to commit, Boone should become a priority. There are also rumors that Florida will take a run at Ohio State commitment James Louis of Delray Beach (Fla.) Atlantic. Louis was interested in Florida before committing to Ohio State.

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Defensive end Owamagbe Odighizuwa's elimination of California is a stunner. Odighizuwa, from Portland (Ore.) David Douglas, once was considered a silent commitment to Cal. Most now feel this will come down to UCLA and Oregon State in the end, with Oregon an outside possibility and USC a long shot.

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There are differing opinions on who leads for defensive back Sean Parker of Harbor City (Calif.) Narbonne. Sources are confident Parker will end up at USC, but there are those who are convinced he will sign with Michigan. Parker once was a big Notre Dame lean, but sources say he has narrowed his choices to USC, Michigan and Cal. He isn't expected to make a decision until National Signing Day.
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Michigan is in good shape with Tony Grimes.
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Things look good for the Wolverines when it comes to Hollywood Hills (Fla.) High teammates Tony Grimes and Clarence Murphy. It's unclear when the duo will commit because Grimes is apparently interested in taking at least one more visit. But it would be a stunner if either ended up anyplace but Ann Arbor. Grimes is a defensive back, Murphy a defensive end.
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Andover (Mass.) High tight end Brian Miller, a 2011 recruit, recently visited Boston College and met with the dean of the business school and the athletic director, but rumors that a commitment to the Eagles was imminent are premature. Michigan, Iowa, Northwestern, North Carolina and Stanford also have offered, and Alabama and Oregon are the newest programs to show interest.

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Rumors began to fly this week about defensive end Bryan Murphy of Ramsey (N.J.) Don Bosco Prep having second thoughts about his commitment to Pittsburgh. But it appears those second thoughts have passed and that he is solid to Pitt. He takes his official visit to Pittsburgh on Jan. 15.

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Five-star defensive end J.R. Ferguson of Chatham (Va.) Hargrave Military Academy has taken official visits to LSU, Notre Dame and Cal, and has stated he will take his fourth official visit to Oklahoma. But who gets the fifth? Sources say it could be UCLA, as coach Rick Neuheisel made quite an impression by flying cross-country simply to visit Ferguson. Maryland, Miami and South Carolina also seem to be in the mix, but it doesn't look as if they will get officials. Ferguson was supposed to take another unofficial visit to Maryland the weekend of Dec. 18, but a blizzard stopped that.

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Ohio State is the newest school to offer 2011 offensive lineman Angelo Mangiro of Succasunna (N.J.) Roxbury. He also has Boston College, Maryland, Rutgers, North Carolina, North Carolina State and others on his list. Look for Penn State, Miami and Pittsburgh to get more involved. Mangiro, who has already visited with the Nittany Lions, Notre Dame and Rutgers, will take a trip to Boston College this spring.
 
Dre.

Q: There are a couple guys who are committed to FSU on your team have they been talking to you at all?

A: Yeah, umm, like [Jeff] Luc has got my phone number, he has been talking to me a couple of times. We talk like Come to FSU, Come to FSU, its nothing serious like my roommate (Corey Miller) he is committed to Tennessee, and its all night. I'm talking like 12 at night to 4 in the morning, like Corey Miller, shut up.
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Originally Posted by 18key

Houston
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...I had a feeling those dudes were frauds.

And I'm pissed I didn't put more on NEB. I was about to put that game high as hell before kickoff but didn't pull the trigger.
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