2008 NT Boxing Post Vol. Oscar De La Hoya vs. Manny Pacquiao 12/6/08 HBO PPV

[proshares]

if I'm not mistaken he broke it
Yea I think he did. Amir Khan won last night so that's one step closer for him being Campbell's mandatory defense of the WBO belt.

 

[stringer bell 32]

found it on YouTube's main page

just a little taste before the fight with Alfonso

 

[mfr3shm]

What you guys think about Amir Khan? is he really good?

 

[gunna get it]

nice find string

some nice avy material....

 

[mextra45]

Great find String , you almost forget how good Cotto-Torres was . Khan is a pretty good fighter , he has been down already and got up to stop the guy and he isbeing moved pretty well , I think he just won an WBO eliminator but i dont know if they will actually take the fight anytime soon .

About Clottey he is a very tough guy to fight its not that he is great in anyway its that he is strong has a a high guard and good counter punching . But heshowed his %@@+$ in his armour in the Margarito fight . Remember they both had broken hands and margarito had a bad ankle coming in . Clottey broke his handand it shut him down . Margarito broke his and he kept punching and that was the %@@+$ he couldn't keep it together in pain .But he is tough night foranyone .

Oh and get this Golden Boy has announced that Casamayor will fight ..................JUAN DIAZ next . He really dont want none of the Galaxxy Warrior .

and can we give some appreciation for the smoothest fighter in the world

Ivan "iron boy" Calderon I swear if he weighed 135 he would be on top of the PFP list but if you can fight the video on his watch it and enjoy masterboxing . It might get a little boring be cause the rounds will look the same as Ivan (who has no pop in his punches) makes opponents look bad as he out slicks, blocks and does what ever he wants to guys

 

[gunna get it]

Oh and get this Golden Boy has announced that Casamayor will fight ..................JUAN DIAZ next . He really dont want none of the Galaxxy Warrior .


Thats not what I wanted to see, but it will do.

and can we give some appreciation for the smoothest fighter in the world

Ivan "iron boy" Calderon I swear if he weighed 135 he would be on top of the PFP list but if you can fight the video on his watch it and enjoy master boxing . It might get a little boring be cause the rounds will look the same as Ivan (who has no pop in his punches) makes opponents look bad as he out slicks , blocks and does what ever he wants to guys
I have yet to see anything from him except CLips. I need to see a full fight

 

[theprofessorofpugilism]

I'll give Clottey a break for the Margarito fight, if i remember correctly both his hands were hurt by the end of the fight. He didn't break the otherone, but he did something to it that messed it up. Clottey's thing is that he's tough, fights well on the inside and his quick hands for a dude of hissize and style. Him and Cotto would be an all out war. I hope he gets his mandatory shot soon.

 

[jagshemash]

What Stringer posted can also be seen on HBO OnDemand along with some other Cotto shorts. If you don't already, check out HBO's sports folder about aweek before any fight, especially a PPV. They're always showing older fights, "greatest hits", etc.

Gomez has a 5-part documentary buildup series for this fight that can be seen on his website http://www.alfonsosgomez.com. He seems pretty focused for this fight, almost has me convinced he'll make it out of thefirst round. Like he says "if Rocky can do it I can do it".

One of the videos you'd swear he's on his deathbed from the illness he suffered...so over dramatic.

Of course he's back in the gym within the week so it's hard to believehe was THAT ill.

 

[hater like starnbuc]

I'm late with this but W

W @ the month of March. There was some GREATboxing fights this past month. I haven't watched that many quality fights with that many upsets in quite some time. There was a lot of undefeated fighterswho got their 1st taste of defeat. Also, just wanted to know out of all the fights that occurred in the past month, which was the most exciting and biggestsurprise of them all (food for thought...)


I'll just recap the superb fights from the past month
-(3/1) Marquez v. Vasquez: what more can you say! 2 great warriors standing toeto toe trading shots. their triology is an instant classic and will go down as one of the best in boxing history
- (3/

Campbell v. Baby Bull: heart > pressure. campbell basically took him to school and outhustled the baby bull.can diaz overcome this loss and learn from it? we'll wait and see. also 2 fighters who will make waves in the heavyweight division Peters and Hayemaker whoI think will become the next hweight champ by 2009.
- (3/15) Marquez v. Pacquiao: both started hesitate but you always knew thiswas gonna be a battle of technique v. power. could have gone either way if you ask me
- (3/22) Casamayor v. Katasidis: didnt think there was a fight that could topmarquez v. vasquez but this was thrilling from round 1 to round 10. this was back & forth action that you really didnt know what was gonna happen next.

There was couple other notables as well the Andy Lee destruction which I saw in person and felt bad for the hyped up prospect. He was getting lit up with somevicious shots. Ouma losing to Bundrage was a bit of surprise since ouma was the favorite and had more experience. Overall, it's been fun being a boxingenthusiast and looking at all the past fights. We can definitely look forward to more great bouts in the future starting with this coming week Margarito v.Cintron (anticipating this for awhile).

 

[feathertouch29]

Marquez said he can fight other fighters while he waits for Pacquiao. He has mentioned the names of Joel Casamayor and Marco Antonio Barrera are possible opponents.


Your thoughts?

 

[shannonscrooks]

Cotto is my favorite fighter in the game today. Dude is just a straight up killer. Will be in AC this weekend to watch him savagely destroy Gomez.

 

[mextra45]

Yeah cause JMM went to Manila for the Penalosa-Vorapin fight and Challenged Manny to a rematch

some funny lines but instead of Chuck Norris its Marvelous Marvin Hagler


Marvin Hagler's barber uses an axe. If he misses, it's his %@@

Marvin Hagler once punched a hole in a cow just to see who was coming up the road.

The Running of the Bulls in Pamplona starts off with Marvin Hagler walking into a barn full of bulls.
If Marvin Hagler would have been in Tiananmen Square instead of that student, communist China would be known as "The Marvelous Republic
Hagler's first job was using his head as a wrecking ball to demolish apartment buildings.
Marvin Hagler is so tough he refers to the Hearns fight as a "Boring Jabfest
Marvin Hagler taught Christopher Walken to act.
Marvin Hagler was once walking down the street in Tijuana and a woman got ran over by a car right in front of him. Marvin leaned down and kissed her on the mouth and the woman jumped up completely healed and started shadowboxing. Fourteen minutes later that woman gave birth to Erik Morales.
Marvin Hagler threw an overhand right at the ground in Armenia and broke up the Soviet Union.
Marvin Hagler eat grape nuts and roofing nails for breakfast everymorning. With no milk.
Global warning only happens when Hagler is pissed

Marving Haglers hands are made of quartz crystal and hatred.
Marvin Hagler warmed up for fights by letting Earnie Shavers punch him bareknuckle in the face for a solid half hour.
Marvin Hagler bleeds Winstrol.
Marvin hagler broke a guilotine with his neck
Oliver Mccall actually started crying becuase Marvin was standing ringside staring at him.
Marvin Hagler dosn't do pullups. He pulls the sky down.
Marvin Hagler was breastfed by a polar bear as a small child.
Marvin Hagler is so tough he uses lava rock to wipe his %@@

 

[gunna get it]

Cotto is my favorite fighter in the game today

NO DOUBT .
I live for Cotto Fights.

Anyone with Thoughts on Dawson vs Glen Johnson ...
Im lookin forward to that fight.
Chad better Bring that A game

 

[proshares]

A wrap up of this weekend:


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[h1]Khan marches toward title; Calderon, Penalosa, Sturm defend in style[/h1]

By Dan Rafael
ESPN.com
(Archive)

Updated: April 7, 2008

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Felix Sturm, center, dropped Jason Pittman three times before stopping him in the seventh.

A roundup of last week's notable boxing results from around the world:

Junior featherweight
Rey Bautista KO2 Genaro Camago
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Junior bantamweight
A.J. Banal TKO4 Caril Herrera
Title eliminator​

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Sunday at Quezon City, Philippines​

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Bantamweight
Gerry Penalosa TKO8 Ratanachai Sor Vorapin
Retains a bantamweight title​

[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Records: Penalosa, 53-6-2, 36 KOs; Vorapin, 72-10, 48 KOs
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Rafael's remark: In 2000, Penalosa stopped Vorapin in the sixth round of a regional junior bantamweight title bout. Eight years later, Thailand's Vorapin again traveled to Penalosa's Filipino turf, but this time as the mandatory challenger for his version of the 118-pound world title. The result was almost the same: Vorapin lasted a little longer but took a beating in doing so in the main event of a card called "Invasion: Philippines vs. The World." It was Golden Boy's first promotion in the Philippines, and the Filipino boxers won every fight. Penalosa, 35, a former junior bantamweight titleholder, was impressive in his first defense since taking the title via a one-punch, seventh-round knockout of Jhonny Gonzalez last summer in Sacramento. With national icon Manny Pacquiao watching at ringside, Penalosa delivered a thorough domination. He hammered Vorapin almost at will with body shots, uppercuts and right hands. In the eighth, he was crushing Vorapin and finally knocked him down. A bleeding Vorapin survived only to eat about a dozen more unanswered shots during Penalosa's follow-up assault before referee Geno Rodriguez stepped in to stop it. Penalosa might move up to junior featherweight because he'd like a rematch with titleholder Daniel Ponce De Leon, who outpointed him in March 2007 on the Juan Manuel Marquez-Marco Antonio Barrera undercard in Las Vegas. Vorapin, 31, who was bidding to regain the belt he held from 2004 to 2005, saw his seven-fight winning streak end.[/td] [/tr][tr][td]
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Records: Bautista, 25-1, 18 KOs; Camago, 16-4, 10 KOs
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Rafael's remark: The 21-year-old Bautista was cruising along virtually unchallenged and was regarded as one of the Philippines' best prospects when he ran into junior featherweight titlist Daniel Ponce De Leon last summer. Ponce De Leon destroyed Bautista, knocking him silly inside one round in an embarrassing performance. Fighting for the second time since that harrowing defeat, Bautista had no problems with Camago, a Mexican who lost his second bout in four fights. Bautista dropped him twice in the first round before knocking him down again in the second. At that point, Camago was done, left to watch from his knees as the referee counted him out.[/td] [/tr][tr][td]
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Records: Banal, 17-0-1, 14 KOs; Herrera, 21-1, 13 KOs
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Rafael's remark: One of the best young talents in the Philippines, the 19-year-old Banal is on the verge of a title shot after stopping Uruguay's Herrera in a battle of undefeated prospects. With the win, Banal put himself in position for a mandatory shot at the belt held by Dimitri Kirilov, but Kirilov first has a summer defense slated against former flyweight beltholder Vic Darchinyan. Banal dropped Herrera in third round before stopping him in the fourth with a hard flurry of punches, including a right hand that staggered Herrera and marked the beginning of his end.[/td] [/tr][/table][table][tr][th=""]

Saturday at Bolton, England​

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Lightweight
Amir Khan TKO7 Martin Kristjansen
Title eliminator​

[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Records: Khan, 17-0, 13 KOs; Kristjansen, 19-2-3, 5 KOs
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Rafael's remark: Since he turned pro after his silver-medal run at the 2004 Olympics, big things have been expected from England's Khan, the 2007 ESPN.com prospect of the year. One of those big things would be to fight for a title, which Khan will get an opportunity to do after this impressive victory. It earned him an eventual mandatory shot at one of the alphabet belts held by Nate Campbell. Khan, 21, was fighting in his hometown against Kristjansen, 30, of Denmark, and while Khan did not deliver on his prediction of a third-round knockout, he did get an impressive stoppage. Khan was in control of the fight when he scored three knockdowns in the seventh round, forcing referee Mickey Vann to stop it. However, Khan needs to learn to better control himself. After the first knockdown, Khan clearly hit Kristjansen while he was down. Vann gave him a very stern warning, but he could have penalized him points or even disqualified him. Kristjansen survived the first trip to the canvas only to be sent down again seconds later and again a few seconds after that before Vann correctly ended it. As good as Khan looked, he took more punches than he probably should have. When you watch how Kristjansen was able to hit him it makes you think about what it will look like if Campbell is the man in the ring with him. Khan needs a little more seasoning, but he will be ready to fight for a title before too long. And when he is, the world will be watching.[/td] [/tr][/table]

Junior featherweight
Eric Morel KO6 Carlos Valcarcel
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Saturday at San Juan​

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Junior flyweight
Ivan "Iron Boy" Calderon W12 Nelson Dieppa
Retains world junior flyweight title
Scores: 120-108 (three times)​

[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Records: Calderon, 31-0, 6 KOs; Dieppa, 25-5-2, 14 KOs
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Rafael's remark: It's been said before and it's true. There are three constants in the world: Death, taxes and a dominant decision victory by Calderon, the sport's consummate technical boxer. Calderon, 33, defended the legitimate 108-pound world championship with a shutout decision against Puerto Rican countryman Dieppa. It was Calderon's second defense following a long reign as 105-pound champion. Although he's changed weight divisions, not much else is different. He still has quicker hands than his opponents and still boxes and moves as well as any fighter in the sport. He now owes former titlist Hugo Cazares a rematch, which figures to come in his next bout this summer. Dieppa, 37, put together a good run with a title from 2001 to 2005 but has now dropped three of four, one of which was a title bout to then-champion Cazares in September 2006.[/td] [/tr][tr][td]
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Records: Morel, 37-2, 19 KOs; Valcarcel, 9-2-4, 4 KOs
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Rafael's remark: A former flyweight titleholder and 1996 U.S. Olympian, Morel, 32, launched a comeback in February after his release from prison for sexual assault. He went the eight-round distance in his first fight since returning to the ring, but he scored a knockout of Valcarcel in this the second fight of his comeback. He dropped Valcarcel in the sixth and finished him off later in the round with a left to the body.[/td] [/tr][/table][table][tr][th=""]

Saturday at Rama, Ontario​

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Junior featherweight
Steve Molitor W12 Fernando Beltran Jr.
Retains a junior featherweight title
Scores: 120-107 (twice), 119-108​

[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Records: Molitor, 27-0, 10 KOs; Beltran Jr., 30-3-1, 18 KOs
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Rafael's remark: Molitor, the "Canadian Kid," made yet another lopsided title defense against yet another solid opponent. Over the past 10 months, Molitor has made four defenses -- all against reasonable competition -- scoring one knockout and three decisions. The closest of the nine scorecards read 118-109 in his favor. That's domination. Beltran's only previous defeats were to Joan Guzman in a 2005 title bout and to Hugo Dianzo in a majority decision later that year. But Molitor is such a skillful, smooth boxer that Beltran had a hard time landing punches. Molitor did suffer a cut on his left eye in the ninth round, and Beltran lost a point for a low blow in the same frame. During the final few rounds, Molitor, one of the best-kept secrets in boxing outside his native Canada, was stalking Beltran and rocking him, but couldn't quite finish him, content instead to take another easy decision.[/td] [/tr][/table][table][tr][th=""]

Saturday at Dusseldorf, Germany​

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Middleweight
Felix Sturm TKO7 Jamie Pittman
Retains a middleweight title​

[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Records: Sturm, 29-2-1, 13 KOs; Pittman, 16-1, 7 KOs
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Rafael's remark: Germany's Sturm made the third defense of his third reign with a paper title an easy one as he pounded the obscure Pittman, dropping him three times (once each in the fifth, sixth and seventh) and finally forcing the referee to stop it 36 seconds into the seventh round. Pittman, of Australia, was never in the fight and proved that he had no business being in a title bout, no matter how bogus Sturm's title is. Sturm closed Pittman's right eye and had him bleeding from another cut. Sturm, whom Americans may recall getting the short end of a controversial decision against Oscar De La Hoya in 2004, is likely to face former titleholder Javier Castillejo in a rubber match, provided that Castillejo wins a European championship fight against Sebastian Sylvester on April 12. The fight that makes the most sense would be for Sturm to meet countryman Arthur Abraham in a unification fight, but they are with rival promoters. Sturm probably would get crushed if they ever did meet.[/td] [/tr][/table]

Featherweight
Jhonny Gonzalez TKO3 Edel Ruiz
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Friday at Cabazon, Calif.​

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Lightweight
Jesus Chavez W10 Daniel Jimenez
Scores: 97-93, 96-94 (twice)​

[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Records: Chavez, 43-4, 29 KOs; Jimenez, 17-3-1, 10 KOs
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Rafael's remark: Chavez, a former lightweight and junior lightweight titleholder, has been beset by a variety of injuries. The latest came in February 2007, when he blew out his right knee in the third round and lost his belt to Julio Diaz. Making his return -- just Chavez's second bout since the death of Leavander Johnson after their September 2005 fight -- Chavez took a few rounds to get rolling in the Telefutura main event, but he eventually scored the clear decision over Puerto Rico's Jimenez. Chavez won because he simply outworked Jimenez, who dropped his second in a row. Jimenez had made a bit of a name for himself in April 2006 by upsetting 2004 U.S. Olympian Vicente Escobedo. Chavez, 35, pounded Jimenez, 27, to the body to slow him down and said afterward that he did not have any problems with his knee, even though he continues to wear a brace for mental comfort. With his comeback hurdle cleared, Chavez could wind up facing Michael Katsidis in an HBO bout this summer on a card that could be headlined by lightweight champ Joel Casamayor defending against former titlist Juan Diaz.[/td] [/tr][tr][td]
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Records: Gonzalez, 37-6, 31 KOs; Ruiz, 28-20-5, 17 KOs
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Rafael's remark: Gonzalez, a former bantamweight titleholder, won his third in a row since losing his belt to Gerry Penalosa via one-punch knockout last summer. Although Gonzalez started slowly, Ruiz never really had a chance. Gonzalez, using a crisp left hook, turned it up in the third round, scoring three knockdowns before referee Jose Cobian finally called it off. The fight went exactly as it was supposed to go as Ruiz lost his third in a row and sixth in his last seven bouts.[/td] [/tr][/table][table][tr][th=""]

Friday at Lincoln, R.I.​

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Heavyweight
Jason Estrada W10 Lance Whitaker
Scores: 98-92 (twice), 97-93​

[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Records: Estrada, 12-1, 2 KOs; Whitaker, 32-5-1, 27 KOs
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Rafael's remark: Estrada, the 2004 U.S. Olympic super heavyweight, has been a big disappointment so far in his pro career, but he picked up his best victory against Whitaker, the 6-foot-8 former contender. With faster hands and better technique allowing him to beat Whitaker to the punch all night, Estrada was the aggressor and fully in control of the "Friday Night Fights" main event. The passive Whitaker was fighting for just the second time since being stopped by former titleholder Sultan Ibragimov in December 2005. At least Whitaker, 35, came into the fight with the 6-foot-1 Estrada, 27, in great shape, weighing 239 pounds. It was the lightest of his career; he usually weighs at least 250 pounds.[/td] [/tr][/table][table][tr][th=""]

Friday at Norwich, England​

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Lightweight
Yuri Romanov TKO6 John Thaxton
Retains European lightweight title​

[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Records: Romanov, 21-2, 14 KOs; Thaxton, 33-8, 18 KOs
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Rafael's remark: For months, Thaxton, the British lightweight champion, had been calling out rising star Amir Khan. But Khan had other plans, and Thaxton wound up challenging Belarus' Romanov, 25, for the European title. Khan probably would have stopped Thaxton, 33, had they fought. Romanov did. Making his third defense, Romanov traveled to Thaxton's hometown and scored the TKO. He landed a left hand that opened a cut over Thaxton's right eye in the fourth round. He made it worse with another blow in the fifth as blood gushed down Thaxton's face. Although Thaxton started the sixth round, his corner threw in the towel a few seconds into the round because of the severity of the cut.[/td] [/tr][/table]

Junior middleweight
Joshua Clottey TKO5 Jose Luis Cruz
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Junior lightweight
Argenis Mendez TKO5 Oscar De La Cruz
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Thursday at New York​

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Junior middleweight
Yuri Foreman W10 Saul Roman
Scores: 98-92 (twice), 97-93​

[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Records: Foreman, 25-0, 8 KOs; Roman, 28-5, 24 KOs
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Rafael's remark: The Versus main event was another snorefest from Foreman, who is an excellent boxer but will never excite fans. It's just not the way he fights. Foreman, 27, who lives in New York after moving from Belarus, possessed way too much speed and skill for the rugged Roman, 27, of Mexico. Roman lost for the third time in four fights. (His one victory during that span came against former junior middleweight titlist Kassim Ouma in a big upset.) Top Rank promoter Bob Arum said that with the victory, he would get Foreman a world title shot next. Let's see if he can deliver.[/td] [/tr][tr][td]
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Records: Clottey, 34-2, 20 KOs; Cruz, 34-4-2, 27 KOs
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Rafael's remark: In December, Clottey outpointed Shamone Alvarez to become the mandatory challenger for the title held by Kermit Cintron, but he'll have to wait for his shot while Cintron battles Antonio Margarito in a rematch on Saturday. After that fight, the Cintron-Margarito II winner will probably wind up relinquishing the title in order to face Miguel Cotto. That move will leave Clottey to eventually fight for a vacant title, but Clottey, the guy nobody really wants to fight, can't just sit idle until that opportunity arises. So he took on Cruz, of Mexico, who had never previously been stopped. (His losses came against former champions Shane Mosley, Sharmba Mitchell and Alvarez). Clottey dominated the action and was tagging Cruz with ease when referee Ricky Gonzalez suddenly jumped in and stopped the bout late in the fifth. It was a weird stoppage because Cruz didn't seem the least bit hurt even though he was taking shots. Nonetheless, it was a solid victory for Ghana's Clottey in presumably the last step before he fights for a belt in the summer or fall.[/td] [/tr][tr][td]
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Records: Mendez, 10-0, 7 KOs; De La Cruz, 5-5, 2 KOs
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Rafael's remark: Mendez, the 21-year-old 2004 Olympian from the Dominican Republic, doesn't get as much hype as some prospects, but the kid is good and has a bright future. De La Cruz, 31, was game and landed a few shots, but Mendez, who had 250 amateur fights, was never rattled. He was patient, landing some big blows before he finished De La Cruz in the fifth with an impressive flurry. Mendez tagged De La Cruz with about a dozen unanswered blows before the referee stepped in with De La Cruz on his way to the canvas. Mendez has blazingly fast hands, power, tons of amateur experience and the backing of powerful promoter Top Rank. All the ingredients are there for him to become a top fighter.[/td] [/tr][/table]

 

[theprofessorofpugilism]

I think Dawson wins a wide decision in a tough fight. Johnson is relentless and Chad has been down a few times, so i'm sure there will be some tensemoments, but i think Chad is too good of a boxer and will win something like 8-4 in rounds. It won't be easy, but i think Chad is just in a differentleague, especially at this point in Johnson's career.

 

[dako akong otin]

what a fight by Gerry Penalosa

While most of the (bandwagon) Filipinoboxing fans admire Pacquiao, I always looked up to Gerry

Boom Boom beat up a can with a weak chin (weaker than Boom's lol), and I don't like how he reacts when he gets hit.
AJ Banal is the future in the 115 lb division.� Look out Darchinyan

Anyway, here's a scene by Manny and JMM who was here in the country

 

[mextra45]

Nobody gets a wide win on Johnson , of all his loses or draws they have either been very close or he got robbed except for the Hopkins fight . Dawson is a verygood fighter but i dont think he has seen this type of pressure and craftiness . In other word he better bring a lunch box cause its gonna be a long day . Asfor Tarver(milk dud) -Woods I hope woods wins by out working him . Tarver is one of the Few Fighters i dont like . He KO'd Roy and ain did much since andhe's lazy . I think Cotto eats the brakes off Gomez just not in the same league . Cintron-Margarito will be better than their first fight but the endingwill be the same but around the 8-9th rd .

 

[theprofessorofpugilism]

Originally Posted by mextra45

Nobody gets a wide win on Johnson , of all his loses or draws they have either been very close or he got robbed except for the Hopkins fight . Dawson is a very good fighter but i dont think he has seen this type of pressure and craftiness . In other word he better bring a lunch box cause its gonna be a long day . As for Tarver(milk dud) -Woods I hope woods wins by out working him . Tarver is one of the Few Fighters i dont like . He KO'd Roy and ain did much since and he's lazy . I think Cotto eats the brakes off Gomez just not in the same league . Cintron-Margarito will be better than their first fight but the ending will be the same but around the 8-9th rd .

Tarver beat Johnson in their rematch by scores of 116-112, 116-112, 115-113. I myself scored that 116-112 for Tarver if i remember correctly. Ididn't say Chad would shot Johnson out, but i think that win the fight ends, its gonna be pretty clear that Dawson won it, by similar scores as to whatTarver beat Johnson by.

 

[stringer bell 32]

[h1]Report: Conte says Mosley was aware what he was using[/h1]
ESPN.com news services

Updated: April 9, 2008, 9:47 AM ET

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Boxer and former BALCO client Shane Mosley knew he was being given steroids, Victor Conte told the Los Angeles Times in response to a slander lawsuit Mosley filed earlier this month.

Last week, Mosley filed suit after Conte said he is writing a book to "set the record straight" on what Mosley knew about the doping program he undertook for his 2003 title fight with Oscar De La Hoya. Mosley, whose suit claims Conte made allegedly false comments to boost book sales, has acknowledged using BALCO's products. But he said he unwittingly used steroids and didn't know what he was taking.

Not true, Conte said, according to the Times.

"I didn't deceive him; he knew what he was taking and I told him that before he took it," Conte said Tuesday, according to the report.

"He was increasing the percentage of red blood cells with every breath, increasing the number of oxygen molecules to his muscle tissue, which means instead of having shortness of breath during a long workout, your stamina is enhanced," Conte said, according to the report. "We had talked about the benefits of oxygen uptake. ... We talked about the benefit of EPO being at the end of the fight, with his extra stamina and endurance."

Conte said his calendars show Mosley was taking EPO through Sept. 8, 2003, and that he took eight doses of "the clear," and seven doses of "the cream" until Aug. 31, 2003, according to the report. Thirteen days later, Mosley outpointed De La Hoya to win his third world title belt by unanimous decision.

"Yes, I watched that fight, and I remember him winning the late rounds and thinking, 'That was an edge,'" Conte said, according to the newspaper. "Shane deserves all the credit for his victory, but did I feel a part of it? In a certain regard, I guess I did."

Mosley, who is in training for a May 31 fight against Zab Judah, was unavailable for comment Tuesday, the Times reported. But his wife and manager, Jin, told the newspaper "Shane never had a doping calendar or never knowingly took steroids. He was not taking anything labeled 'steroid.'"

And Mosley's attorney, Judd Burstein, said the calendars "don't prove anything," according to the report.

"Shane didn't know what he was taking, and that's completely believable to anyone who knows Shane. He wouldn't know a hematocrit from a chromatic print," Burstein said, according to the newspaper.

De La Hoya, whose Golden Boy Promotions company now promotes Mosley, was not available for comment Tuesday, the Times reported.

 

[gunna get it]

Like seriously, What is Shane doing?
Everyone hasw known this for yrs already, dont get Roger Clemens'd...

 

[shannonscrooks]

^Stay out of this.

 

[gunna get it]

OK I got more:

Fast4est hands Ive ever seen: Roy "juiced" Jones Jr.
Best Left Hook: *shrugs* Mike Tyson


Anyone watching Wednesday nite fights ?

Teddy Atlas gave his top 5 best Fighters he's ever seen live.
1. Roberto Duran
2. Carlos Monzon
3. Marvelous Hagler
4. Pernell Whitaker
5. Sugar Ray Leonard

Ive never seen any footage of Carlos Monzon. Anyone seen footage of him? Style? strengths?
NVM - YouTube got Footage.

 

[mfr3shm]

Yeah i'm watching it so from now on its on wednesdays for how long?

SMH at Mosley bringing this steroid talk back.

 

[gunna get it]

They're gonna do both Wed & Friday Night Fights til mid Summer.

From wiKI, So I dunno how reliable, i need to read from more sources.

Monzón retired after this defense and kept a low public profile through most of the late 1970s and the 1980s. Susana Giménez left him in 1980. After the breakup, Monzón's private life was finally closed to the public, but the beatings continued, this time with his second wife, Alicia Muñiz. In 1988, he allegedly beat Muñiz so many times that she, scared and bloody, ran to the balcony of their second floor apartment. According to the investigation performed later, he followed her there, grabbed her by the neck, and then picked her up and pushed her off the balcony, to her death, after which he followed her in the fall injuring a shoulder. Upon hearing his sentence, Monzón did not show any remorse for what had happened[citation needed].

In 1995, he was given a weekend furlough to visit his family and kids, and upon returning to jail after the weekend, he crashed near the jail building, dying instantly. There have been rumors that he committed suicide by crashing the car, but there has been no evidence found that supports that claim.

 

[proshares]

Yep that's a true story. There was a book written about him in like 01 or 02 I believe I can't remember the name I know my uncle had loaned it to me.