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sources say l amar odom will make decision before september
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I do NOT support lowering our offer to Lamar just to be @#$%'s.
If we had the OG offer on the table right now, he prolly woulda signed already. Quit screwin around with hurt feelins and such, and just get the guy back onthe squad.
And losing LO and Ariza for Artest as a wash is the dumbest thing I have ever read. Beyond stupid.
If we had the OG offer on the table right now, he prolly woulda signed already. Quit screwin around with hurt feelins and such, and just get the guy back onthe squad.
And losing LO and Ariza for Artest as a wash is the dumbest thing I have ever read. Beyond stupid.
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Hi guys!
LO still hasn't signed yet?
Ok, I'm giving it until today, then I'm going back to the cave again.
LO still hasn't signed yet?
Ok, I'm giving it until today, then I'm going back to the cave again.
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Originally Posted by CP1708
I do NOT support lowering our offer to Lamar just to be @#$%'s.
If we had the OG offer on the table right now, he prolly woulda signed already. Quit screwin around with hurt feelins and such, and just get the guy back on the squad.
And losing LO and Ariza for Artest as a wash is the dumbest thing I have ever read. Beyond stupid.
that's exactly my question... how real are the chances of management returning to the original offer?
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Hoopsworld : The Lakers new offer is said to be a three-year offer in the $25 million range with possible performance incentives included in the deal thatcould push it north of $27 million, if the Lakers reach the NBA Finals again.
http://thelakersnation.com/blog/2009/07/28/lakers-new-contract-to-odom-is/
that's still a reasonable offer imo
http://thelakersnation.com/blog/2009/07/28/lakers-new-contract-to-odom-is/
that's still a reasonable offer imo
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I would just like to express how dumb I think this is. It's like they aren't that serious about getting him back. Give him the OG offerand if he decides to leave then fine, but don't lower it and make it more enticing for him to take Miami's deal.Originally Posted by CP1708
I do NOT support lowering our offer to Lamar just to be @#$%'s.
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you should NEVER pay a benchplayer 10 million. that is ridiculous...especially one that doesnt show up every game... anybody else watch all of philjackson's game winning finals games? did you see how horrific those championship teams benches were ???? good lord hahahaa its all about the starting core.
for odom to reject a 3 year 10 mil contract is RIDICULOUS and i would be offended too if i were jerry buss...
for odom to reject a 3 year 10 mil contract is RIDICULOUS and i would be offended too if i were jerry buss...
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^ he never got a 3 year 30 mil...it was 27 mil
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Patiently waiting for something to happen...
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i think he did, buss offered him the 3/27 then bumped it up to 3/30 or 4/36 and LO never accpeted, thats why i could understand buss would pullthe offer because he offered him all those and LO was a dummy to not accept it , thats why i dont blame Buss for lowering his offer.
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Can't believe this is STILL dragging on, Odumb is making no sense, he's gonna take a 5 year deal for Miami for 35 mil, but just get paid for 3 and thenopt out in hopes of getting a new deal and will have earned 18-20 mil of that contract. Even with the new offer from the Lakers reportedly 3 years for 25 mil,that's still 5 mil more than he would get, so what's the holdup dummy? He should have just taken the 3yr/27 mil offer from the get go.
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i believe the 3/30 offer was a 4/36 but the 4th year had a team buyout option that would be for 3 million so if the lakers didnt pick up the option for thefourth year (most likely not), with the buyout it would be a 3/30
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I'm almost convinced that with the lowering of the offer, the Heat have snagged Odom away.
If Riley and Wade are visiting, how would they not use this as ammunition against coming back to us?
It's disappointing. I hope Mitch really does have a plan B.
If Riley and Wade are visiting, how would they not use this as ammunition against coming back to us?
It's disappointing. I hope Mitch really does have a plan B.
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i guess they learned their lesson from their contracts with Sasha and Walton
Odom>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bynum though
as much as odom acts indifferent for stretches during the season, bynum just does not give a damn AT ALL if he does not get shots
when he does he still misses and jogs in slow motion on defense
I have never seen dude be consistent or dangerous with his 1 on 1 moves
he only thrives when attention is given to Gasol and Kobe and teams forget that he is on the court
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If Bynum plays like he did before the injury, he could potentially make up for a potential Odom loss.
- Feb 3, 2008
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give the dude the OG OFFER..im tired of this %+%%
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Originally Posted by knightngale
i guess they learned their lesson from their contracts with Sasha and Walton
Odom>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bynum though
as much as odom acts indifferent for stretches during the season, bynum just does not give a damn AT ALL if he does not get shots
when he does he still misses and jogs in slow motion on defense
I have never seen dude be consistent or dangerous with his 1 on 1 moves
he only thrives when attention is given to Gasol and Kobe and teams forget that he is on the court
@ the lakers if they think Bynum will help with losing odom
amen. I've been telling people the same thing since Lakers re-signed Bynum.
Do you guys believe in insurance?
Because somebody PLEASE tell me how ya'll goin to feel when Bynum or Gasol gets hurt, and Josh Powell is inserted into our starting lineup to guard Duncan,Sheed, (or KG), Rashard Lewis, Lamarcus Aldrige, or K-Mart for any period of time.
Lamar protects this ENTIRE franchise from that travesty happening.
WE CAN NOT GO OUT AND GET ANYBODY ELSE OF EQUAL VALUE, THERE IS NO OTHER SOLUTION.
If we let Lamar walk over a damn million dollars extra a year, or two million, or a million and a half just over some BS belief that no player off the bench isworth 9 or 10 mil a year when chances are pretty good that that player will actually start for half a season, or in the postseason, or whenever, and will keepus protected, and among the elite for the next 2-3 years to compete for chamipionships, then I don't know what to tell you. We are no longer fighting forthe second round. I do not give a @#$% about making the playoffs. If we trade Lamar for some other pieces, that's one thing. If we package him, it'sone thing, if we LET HIM WALK OVER WOUNDED PRIDE IN THE NAME OF 2 MILLION DOLLARS, WE ARE STUPID!!!!!!!!
How people can sit here and say let him go, let him go, rather save a million bucks is BEYOND ME. The minute, and I MEAN MINUTE that Pau or Bynum gets hurt,what the hell are you all going to say then? "boy, wish we had that extra 2 million for Lamar"
HE HAS TO STAY. Yes, he is inconsistent. No, he probably isn't WORTH 10 million on his own, but THIS FRANCHISE, AND OUR CHAMPIONSHIP WINDOW IS WORTH 10MILLION FIFTY TIMES OVER.
For that, give the guy his 2 million a year, or whatever. We're already over the cap, we can't simply go get another guy who is worth 8-9 million,that's not how the cap works. We can only get OUR OWN players for 8-9 million, so if it comes down to a few extra bucks, YOU SIGN THAT PLAYER AND PROTECTTHE INVESTMENTS YOU HAVE ALREADY MADE.
It's that simple.
Because somebody PLEASE tell me how ya'll goin to feel when Bynum or Gasol gets hurt, and Josh Powell is inserted into our starting lineup to guard Duncan,Sheed, (or KG), Rashard Lewis, Lamarcus Aldrige, or K-Mart for any period of time.
Lamar protects this ENTIRE franchise from that travesty happening.
WE CAN NOT GO OUT AND GET ANYBODY ELSE OF EQUAL VALUE, THERE IS NO OTHER SOLUTION.
If we let Lamar walk over a damn million dollars extra a year, or two million, or a million and a half just over some BS belief that no player off the bench isworth 9 or 10 mil a year when chances are pretty good that that player will actually start for half a season, or in the postseason, or whenever, and will keepus protected, and among the elite for the next 2-3 years to compete for chamipionships, then I don't know what to tell you. We are no longer fighting forthe second round. I do not give a @#$% about making the playoffs. If we trade Lamar for some other pieces, that's one thing. If we package him, it'sone thing, if we LET HIM WALK OVER WOUNDED PRIDE IN THE NAME OF 2 MILLION DOLLARS, WE ARE STUPID!!!!!!!!
How people can sit here and say let him go, let him go, rather save a million bucks is BEYOND ME. The minute, and I MEAN MINUTE that Pau or Bynum gets hurt,what the hell are you all going to say then? "boy, wish we had that extra 2 million for Lamar"
HE HAS TO STAY. Yes, he is inconsistent. No, he probably isn't WORTH 10 million on his own, but THIS FRANCHISE, AND OUR CHAMPIONSHIP WINDOW IS WORTH 10MILLION FIFTY TIMES OVER.
For that, give the guy his 2 million a year, or whatever. We're already over the cap, we can't simply go get another guy who is worth 8-9 million,that's not how the cap works. We can only get OUR OWN players for 8-9 million, so if it comes down to a few extra bucks, YOU SIGN THAT PLAYER AND PROTECTTHE INVESTMENTS YOU HAVE ALREADY MADE.
It's that simple.
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Words of wisdom... It is our unique set of circumstances that make him so valuable... I only wish Jerry Buss could read this post
darthska
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CP1708:
Do you guys believe in insurance?
Because somebody PLEASE tell me how ya'll goin to feel when Bynum or Gasol gets hurt, and Josh Powell is inserted into our starting lineup to guard Duncan, Sheed, (or KG), Rashard Lewis, Lamarcus Aldrige, or K-Mart for any period of time.
Lamar protects this ENTIRE franchise from that travesty happening.
WE CAN NOT GO OUT AND GET ANYBODY ELSE OF EQUAL VALUE, THERE IS NO OTHER SOLUTION.
If we let Lamar walk over a damn million dollars extra a year, or two million, or a million and a half just over some BS belief that no player off the bench is worth 9 or 10 mil a year when chances are pretty good that that player will actually start for half a season, or in the postseason, or whenever, and will keep us protected, and among the elite for the next 2-3 years to compete for chamipionships, then I don't know what to tell you. We are no longer fighting for the second round. I do not give a @#$% about making the playoffs. If we trade Lamar for some other pieces, that's one thing. If we package him, it's one thing, if we LET HIM WALK OVER WOUNDED PRIDE IN THE NAME OF 2 MILLION DOLLARS, WE ARE STUPID!!!!!!!!
How people can sit here and say let him go, let him go, rather save a million bucks is BEYOND ME. The minute, and I MEAN MINUTE that Pau or Bynum gets hurt, what the hell are you all going to say then? "boy, wish we had that extra 2 million for Lamar"
HE HAS TO STAY. Yes, he is inconsistent. No, he probably isn't WORTH 10 million on his own, but THIS FRANCHISE, AND OUR CHAMPIONSHIP WINDOW IS WORTH 10 MILLION FIFTY TIMES OVER.
For that, give the guy his 2 million a year, or whatever. We're already over the cap, we can't simply go get another guy who is worth 8-9 million, that's not how the cap works. We can only get OUR OWN players for 8-9 million, so if it comes down to a few extra bucks, YOU SIGN THAT PLAYER AND PROTECT THE INVESTMENTS YOU HAVE ALREADY MADE.
It's that simple.
Odom is the new Kobe. "OUR ENTIRE FRANCHISE RESTS ON HIS SHOULDERS!! IMMINENT DOOM IS UPON US IF HE LEAVES!!! ONOEZ!!!"
We've won 1 with him, 14 without him.
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Jay Kornegay, executive director of the Las Vegas Hilton's Race and Sports book: "Odom's a component, but he's not a star. As that team hasalready shown, if they lose someone, they'll find someone else."
Exactly.
Like anyone knew before the season 2 years ago that we would pick up Pau Gasol. I'm not saying we will pick someone else up if Lamar leaves, like it'sa guarantee. But I am saying... we'll pick someone else up.
We'll be fine. Even if losing him prevents us from being the odds on favorite to win the championship, that doesn't matter. You don't winchampionships because you were the favorites to win the championship.
Exactly.
Like anyone knew before the season 2 years ago that we would pick up Pau Gasol. I'm not saying we will pick someone else up if Lamar leaves, like it'sa guarantee. But I am saying... we'll pick someone else up.
We'll be fine. Even if losing him prevents us from being the odds on favorite to win the championship, that doesn't matter. You don't winchampionships because you were the favorites to win the championship.
