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Jeffgdula: How is the cushioning compared to the 4's? You said that it's firmer on the forefoot, how is the heel? and generally speaking do you find them as soft? softer?
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Hard to say. I haven't run in them yet. The cushioning isn't completely different or anything. The most noticeable thing to me as that they just don't fit my foot nearly as well as the 4s (or even 3s or 2s)Originally Posted by Gggggas
Jeffgdula: How is the cushioning compared to the 4's? You said that it's firmer on the forefoot, how is the heel? and generally speaking do you find them as soft? softer?
Thanks!
Originally Posted by jeffgdula
I am still disappointed in these. I have bought and or tried on over 10 pairs now and they just don't fit well. If I'd have thought they were gonna mess up the 4s this bad, I wouldn't have sold a bunch of mine.
Originally Posted by Sole Investigator
For me, the Vomero 5's feel light and very soft/springy/pillowy (is that a word?). My only problem with them was that the heel transition with the medial and lateral side of the heel felt a bit out of concert. The heel crash pad is very soft, but the transition to the medial side of the heel was a bit jolty and didn't have a smooth flowy feel to it.
Originally Posted by Gggggas
Originally Posted by Sole Investigator
For me, the Vomero 5's feel light and very soft/springy/pillowy (is that a word?). My only problem with them was that the heel transition with the medial and lateral side of the heel felt a bit out of concert. The heel crash pad is very soft, but the transition to the medial side of the heel was a bit jolty and didn't have a smooth flowy feel to it.
Do you also have the Vomero 4's? If so can you give us you opinion on a head to head comparison?
http://store.nike.com/index.jsp?sit...p,pdp,ctr-inline/cid-1/pid-300580/pgid-300581Originally Posted by AZSunDevil22
jeffgdula,
Do you have any insight as to whether or not the 5s will release in a black colorway?
Gggggas wrote:
Originally Posted by Sole Investigator
For me, the Vomero 5's feel light and very soft/springy/pillowy (is that a word?). My only problem with them was that the heel transition with the medial and lateral side of the heel felt a bit out of concert. The heel crash pad is very soft, but the transition to the medial side of the heel was a bit jolty and didn't have a smooth flowy feel to it.
Do you also have the Vomero 4's? If so can you give us you opinion on a head to head comparison?
I run a few thousand miles per year and I do a lot of my long, slow runs in Vomeros. I remember receiving the 5's and after wearing them twice thinking, "Wow, they finally got it right."
Compared with the 4's:
The toe box has room without being boxy and loose.
The lacing structure runs naturally down the top of my foot instead of locking down more in some places than others.
The build feels more balanced underfoot and not so medially and laterally overbuilt.
The chunk cut away from the outer heel on the 5's is deeper at at a greater angle than on the 4's. For many people (including myself) this works very well.
In general, I would say that the 5 handles like a much smaller shoe than the 4 while retaining all of the cushioning and support. (For the record, I went through a few pair of 4's and they always felt like the upper of a running shoe had been built onto some clunky tank treads.) And while I've used Vomeros 2-4 for quite a while, I've always had a few small gripes specific to my foot, stride, etc. Besides all the points mentioned above, my individial misgivings have all be addressed wonderfully in the Vomero 5. I don't think I have ever been so pleased with an update than I was in going from 4's to 5's.
And on the personal, it's interesting that many of the things that JeffGDula didn't like were the exact things that I think make the 5's so much better than the 4's. That is in no way criticism, I just find it interesting. This may be a wonderful example of why people should be properly fitted at a dedicated running store (Footlocker is not a running store) and not rely entirely upon on anonymous reviews.
Originally Posted by Boilermaker X
Gggggas wrote:
Originally Posted by Sole Investigator
For me, the Vomero 5's feel light and very soft/springy/pillowy (is that a word?). My only problem with them was that the heel transition with the medial and lateral side of the heel felt a bit out of concert. The heel crash pad is very soft, but the transition to the medial side of the heel was a bit jolty and didn't have a smooth flowy feel to it.
Do you also have the Vomero 4's? If so can you give us you opinion on a head to head comparison?
Ozz26 wrote:
Boilermaker,
Would you recommend the Vomero for marathon training? i'm running the chicago in october... using the pegasus now and lunartrainers for speed work, but will need a new pair at some point as well before october. thanks for your thoughts!
Without knowing the specifics of you and your training plans it's obviously difficult to say definitively, but if it works for your foot I probably can't think of a much better all-around shoe for general marathon training. I rotate between a few different shoes for different workouts but I put on a lot of miles in Vomeros. See you in Chicago!
Couldn't agree more. I use Luke's Locker in Fort Worth and RunTex in Austin.Originally Posted by jeffgdula
Originally Posted by Boilermaker X
Gggggas wrote:
Originally Posted by Sole Investigator
For me, the Vomero 5's feel light and very soft/springy/pillowy (is that a word?). My only problem with them was that the heel transition with the medial and lateral side of the heel felt a bit out of concert. The heel crash pad is very soft, but the transition to the medial side of the heel was a bit jolty and didn't have a smooth flowy feel to it.
Do you also have the Vomero 4's? If so can you give us you opinion on a head to head comparison?
I run a few thousand miles per year and I do a lot of my long, slow runs in Vomeros. I remember receiving the 5's and after wearing them twice thinking, "Wow, they finally got it right."
Compared with the 4's:
The toe box has room without being boxy and loose.
The lacing structure runs naturally down the top of my foot instead of locking down more in some places than others.
The build feels more balanced underfoot and not so medially and laterally overbuilt.
The chunk cut away from the outer heel on the 5's is deeper at at a greater angle than on the 4's. For many people (including myself) this works very well.
In general, I would say that the 5 handles like a much smaller shoe than the 4 while retaining all of the cushioning and support. (For the record, I went through a few pair of 4's and they always felt like the upper of a running shoe had been built onto some clunky tank treads.) And while I've used Vomeros 2-4 for quite a while, I've always had a few small gripes specific to my foot, stride, etc. Besides all the points mentioned above, my individial misgivings have all be addressed wonderfully in the Vomero 5. I don't think I have ever been so pleased with an update than I was in going from 4's to 5's.
And on the personal, it's interesting that many of the things that JeffGDula didn't like were the exact things that I think make the 5's so much better than the 4's. That is in no way criticism, I just find it interesting. This may be a wonderful example of why people should be properly fitted at a dedicated running store (Footlocker is not a running store) and not rely entirely upon on anonymous reviews.
yup, but way more comfortable.Originally Posted by liljp361
look like any other running shoe to me.