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you talking about Mayol vs Romero?
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you talking about Mayol vs Romero?
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i didnt see the fight, i just saw the highlights but imma describe what happened and see if its the boxers you are talking about.
the mexican guy low blows the asian guy and the ref had his arms spread to his side and was about to stop the fight when the mexican threw I think a left hook.
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Yup thats it ^
The Asian guy is Rodel Mayol the defending champion. His coach Jeremiah Quijano is also my trainer (the one who's the first to rush to his aid). So yeah, i was shouting obscenities at my laptop watching the stream
During the 2nd round, Mayol was hurting him with some left upper cuts.. almost knocked Romero down
sooooo friggin close man.. The ropes supported him. Thought we had him during the 3rd.
Edit: found a vid of the 3rd round. I gotta admit after watching this replay, I'm thinking Mayol might have been acting? He was getting tagged with low blows this round and the ref wasn't giving out warnings.
During the 2nd round, Mayol was hurting him with some left upper cuts.. almost knocked Romero down
Edit: found a vid of the 3rd round. I gotta admit after watching this replay, I'm thinking Mayol might have been acting? He was getting tagged with low blows this round and the ref wasn't giving out warnings.
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This story appears in the March 8 issue of ESPN The Magazine.
Joshua Clottey arrives at Contenders Gym in Fort Lauderdale for the second consecutive afternoon. His black eyes cast around the place, February clouds rolling through the glass doors behind him. A boxer's camp before a big fight normally has a romance about it: Muhammad Ali holding court in Deer Lake; Lennox Lewis running through snow in the Poconos; Oscar De La Hoya chopping wood in Big Bear. But there's no romance at Contenders. There isn't even a working shower. It's a single-ring gym at a community athletic complex named Carter Park, marked by only a small blue plaque that says Activity Room. Two local fighters shadowbox nearby in board shorts and running shoes; one is wearing a Roscoe's House of Chicken 'n Waffles T-shirt. This is not what the dream is supposed to look like.
Clottey thought the same thing yesterday, when he left after his first day here -- sweated up and without a shower -- determined to find somewhere else to hold his camp. But there was nowhere else to go, and Clottey had no one to help him get there. On his long list of things to worry about these days, hot water is close to the bottom. And so here he is, back once again, ducking into an adjacent office to get his hands wrapped. Lenny De Jesus, a 64-year-old New Yorker, part-time locksmith and longtime boxing satellite -- "I'm kind of a hidden guy," he says -- pulls out the wraps, yellow and white, and spools them around Clottey's hands. The two men know each other from John's Gym in the Bronx, a New York City joint close to where Clottey keeps a cheap apartment. De Jesus is watched by two of Clottey's rotund friends from his native Ghana: Bruce, who will do the pad work, and Kwaku, who will drive and make dinner. The Ghanaians are a silent, mysterious duo. "I think they might be family," De Jesus says with a shrug. While most fighters arrive at training camp with a full entourage, these are the three men who will make up Clottey's corner. They have only five weeks to find matching shirts, and to prepare him for the fight of his life.
Clottey's known for his toughness. In a narrow 2006 loss to Antonio Margarito, he fought the last eight rounds with a busted tendon in his hand.
"He just has to go in there and throw punches," De Jesus says. "What else are you going to do against that guy?"
That guy is Manny Pacquiao, pound-for-pound the best fighter in the world -- "Best I've ever seen," says legendary promoter Bob Arum -- a champion in seven weight classes; dismantler of De La Hoya, Erik Morales and Ricky Hatton; future congressman in the Philippines; and strong enough for Floyd Mayweather Jr. to suggest that he must be on something normally given to horses. That accusation allowed Mayweather to duck Pacquiao in a fight many predicted would have been the biggest pay-per-view event in boxing history.
Instead, Joshua Clottey became Mayweather's doomed proxy, chosen to fight Pacquiao on March 13 in front of an expected 40,000 fans at Cowboys Stadium. Out of that 40,000, it's a good bet that only De Jesus, Bruce and Kwaku will be rooting for him. The other 39,997 will see Clottey for what he actually is: a hiccup, a substitute, a placeholder. Pacquiao-Mayweather would have been the sort of fight that girlfriends talk about, would have broken records and earned each fighter around $40 million. Jerry Jones had been told that Cowboys Stadium wasn't good enough to hold that bout. Now, instead of the best fighter in the world facing the second-best fighter in the world, here stands Joshua Clottey -- most admired, perhaps, for his ability to take a punch -- getting his hands wrapped by a part-time locksmith in an office with a single gold cup on an otherwise empty trophy shelf. He is the man nobody wants to see, except in the back of an ambulance.
"I can't think about all that," the 32-year-old Clottey says, shaking his head. "Otherwise I don't sleep no more. Right now, I sleep very good."
In a short-staffed camp, De Jesus has taken on the bulk of the worry. (At the moment, Bruce is more concerned about the workout's sound track; he takes out a compact disc and heads over to the stereo in the corner. Kwaku is thinking he might make chicken soup for dinner.) "I'll be honest with you," De Jesus says after he's finished the wraps. "Our first job will be getting this kid up those three steps and into the ring."
Most trainers set bigger goals for their fighters than on-time delivery, but De Jesus has been around long enough -- having worked Pacquiao's corner as a cut man many years ago -- to know how badly the odds have been stacked against his fighter. It's just that everyone in a challenger's camp usually does a better job of ignoring the odds, often by invoking the fat ghost of Buster Douglas. This time, though, nobody bothers pretending, except Arum, whose Top Rank stable happens to include Pacquiao and Clottey. "I really believe this is the better fight," he says, trying to banish thoughts of what could have been. "Joshua won't run." That's probably true, but only because Clottey has nobody to run to. Arum has left him largely to his own devices, not wanting to see his greatest asset, Pacquiao, devalued by a shock loss to some African. Clottey's current manager, a self-described "businessman from Jersey" named Vinny Scolpino, whom Clottey threatened to drop last year after a public contract dispute and money woes, isn't exactly boxing's most influential power broker either. And most important: Godwin Kotey, the Ghanaian trainer who helped start Clottey on his way to 35 wins, has been denied his U.S. visa. (Clottey flew to Ghana in January to help the trainer negotiate with the U.S. embassy, but was unsuccessful.) All of which has left Clottey in this broken-down Fort Lauderdale gym with De Jesus, one man substituting for Floyd Mayweather and the other for an entire machine. "I guess I'm it," De Jesus says with his hands in the air.
Just this February morning there were reports that Pacquiao has already sparred more than 24 rounds at the famed Wild Card gym in Hollywood, Calif., against Abdullai Amidu, a Ghanaian who has boxed with Clottey since they were kids. (Clottey is genuinely saddened and bewildered by the idea of a friend's possibly selling his secrets. "I don't know why he is doing that," he says.) After Clottey made the drive up yesterday from his little rented house in a very different Hollywood to this gym with a busted shower, he banged out just three rounds against Damian "Devo" Frias, a Cuban welterweight whose name appears in the smallest of type on a poster in the gym, alongside some guy named Joey "Twinkle Fingers" Hernandez.
Clottey will spar with Frias again today, this time for six rounds. He begins his warmup by jumping rope, a little toy plastic one he found draped over one of the turnbuckles. He stares at his reflection in a wide mirror, then pulls on his heavy black gloves and headgear. He throws light jabs at a speed bag, loosening his shoulders. He glances up and sees Mayweather staring back at him from a poster ("Witness the Speed of Light"), and quickly returns his gaze to the mirror. Bruce finally gets the music going, and Ghanaian electro- pop fills the room, an unlikely combination of African beats and Auto-Tune. One of the most upbeat songs, by the duo Ruff-N-Smooth, will be Clottey's walk-in music in Dallas. The song is called "Swagger"; the opening lyrics rhyme "banana" with "Ghana." Clottey can't help dancing, admiring himself in the mirror, his broad, smooth face breaking out in a smile. He looks blissfully unaware. "I love this song," he says. "Make me feel good. And when you dance, you don't know what is going on. You don't think. You just do." He shimmies some more before he furrows his brow and drops his hands. The music has stopped doing its job. "Swagger," he says. "I do not know what this word means."
"Joshua is just a lovely boy," Arum says from Las Vegas. Arum has been a boxing promoter for 200 years. When the fight between Pacquiao and Mayweather fell apart, he considered a number of substitutes before finally settling on Clottey. His thinking: Like Pacquiao, the Ghanaian has a decent record (35-3 with 20 KOs), represents limited one-punch risk and wouldn't be a pain in the $##. "The antithesis of Floyd Mayweather Jr.," Arum says.
Clottey flew to Ghana to retrieve his longtime trainer. He was unsuccesful. "I don't understand why nobody helps me," he says.
Clottey first saw his name thrown into the mix for the Pacquiao fight online. He was in his native Accra, Ghana's port capital on western Africa's famed Gold Coast, when he read that Arum had floated him as a possible replacement. "You're joking," Clottey remembers thinking. Clottey called Scolpino to find out if there was any truth to the story, and Scolpino got in touch with Arum. "When I told Vinny we were ready to move," Arum says with a laugh, "he told me he'd collapsed in his chair." Clottey then asked Scolpino to set up camp somewhere warm and close to a beach, because running on the beaches of Accra had always brought him good luck, and he needed all the good luck he could get. Scolpino knew the guys who run Contenders, and just five weeks before the fight, Clottey was on a plane to Florida. "A gym is a gym, you know?" Scolpino says.
The businessman from Jersey did take a harder look at the cash, though. Never mind his humble surroundings: Clottey is guaranteed his biggest payday, $1.25 million, and will be given a share of PPV revenues for the first time in his 15-year pro career. Depending on how well the fight sells, he could gross more than $3 million -- a life-changing amount of money, even after the majority of it gets stripped away by boxing's inevitable pilot fish. (Damian Frias, for starters, has been demanding $1,000 a week to play make-believe Pacquiao.) "I don't really want to talk about money," Clottey says. "But this is huge for me. I come from very, very poor background. My father don't have nothing except two sons. We both become fighters. My brother, he can't fight anymore, so it's up to me. I have to take care of a lot of people. If I'm walking in Accra, I'm in trouble, because everybody needs money there. But now my family is going to be very, very good. We are going to lack nothing. I will have my house, and I will have my cars. And if I win this fight ... "
This is the first time Clottey has allowed himself to talk about the fight. After Freddie Roach, Pacquiao's trainer, predicted that his fighter will win by knockout, the Ghanaian waved away the thought like heat. ("I give my respect to his feelings," Clottey says. "That's his right to say anything.") But now, despite the happy music filling the room and despite his staring only in the mirror, Clottey has been pushed into a corner, forced to think about what's coming. Maybe, deep down, he believes he can win. Maybe he'll get lucky. Maybe Pacquiao will take him too lightly, and Clottey will see an opening and land a miracle punch that will change the course of two men's futures. Maybe he can be the next Buster Douglas. Or, maybe ...
"Maybe Pacquiao's as fast as everybody tell me," Clottey says. "Maybe he will knock me out. If he knock me out, then I will say to the whole world: 'If I'm telling you that I'm seeing a ghost in the ring, don't brush me off. It won't be a joke. If I tell you I'm seeing a ghost, see that ghost with me.' "
He climbs through the ropes -- there's just one step at Contenders -- and into the ring. De Jesus grabs a bottle of water from a row of bottles and starts throwing handfuls of it into Clottey's face and onto his arms, like a priest. Neither man knows that it's the wrong bottle, and that the water has salt in it, a poor man's electrolytes. Clottey's eyes begin to sting and fill with tears. A buzzer sounds. He turns to face Frias, but he can't see a thing.
The rest of the gym goes quiet except for those African beats. (The banana song is kind of catchy.) Everybody else, including the dude in the Roscoe's T-shirt, stops flailing at the heavy bags and takes a seat on the wooden benches that surround the ring. No matter what happens on March 13, Joshua Clottey has suddenly become someone worth watching. He's become famous for his proximity to fame, the boxer about to become only the 53rd man on the planet to know firsthand what it's like to be punched by Manny Pacquiao. "You can see on his face, he's in a dream," Arum says.
Clottey is no pushover, but at Jerry Jones' press conference at Cowboys stadium, one fighter received most of the attention.
They held a press conference at Cowboys Stadium in January. Clottey saw himself on that giant TV hanging from the roof, walked out of the tunnel in a cloud of smoke, and the Cowboys cheerleaders kicked their white boots into the air around him. It was a long way from Accra, a long way from his place in the Bronx. He looked like a man who'd been struck by lightning. Despite appearances, though, Clottey says he's always known this fight was in his future. It was less a dream and more an inevitability. "Never a doubt," he says. His optimism is surprising. What would have been Clottey's biggest fight, against Shane Mosley (Mayweather's May 1 opponent) last Dec. 26, was taken out from under him. (HBO execs reportedly didn't want to stage the fight so close to Christmas.) "It was devastating for him," Arum says. Now, just weeks later, Clottey's been given an even bigger chance on an even bigger stage. "I don't drink alcohol, no smoking, I don't gamble," he says. "Good things happen to good people." For him, there's no other explanation. And there's no need to worry about what comes next.
Because good things happen to good people.
He touches gloves with Frias. Like Pacquiao, the Cuban is a southpaw, but there the comparison ends. Clottey blinks the salt out of his eyes and shows his strength, easily pushing Frias around the ring. He has good power and he is big for a welterweight -- he could weigh as much as 160 pounds on fight night -- but he doesn't possess much flash or grace. He doesn't even bother moving his head; if he keeps it this still against Pacquiao, the Filipino might very well remove it, take it home and bury it in his backyard. Near the end of the third round, Clottey shouts and launches himself into Frias, his feet leaving the canvas and his fist crashing into the Cuban's headgear. That's enough of that. Halfway through the workout, Frias quits. He gestures to his right shoulder, saying it's hurt. "We'll find someone new for tomorrow," De Jesus says.
Later, Bruce works the pads for Clottey, their rhythm broken by the rust, and after Clottey spends a round dancing to the music, the workout's over, a little over an hour after it began. He takes a swig of water, spits it into the air and catches it with the top of his head. He's looking forward to his shower.
Except that it's still broken, even though Scolpino had promised it would be fixed. Clottey looks like he's been struck by lightning again. The gym rats point him across a long parking lot to Carter Park's pool, where there are working showers. Clottey shakes his head and walks across the asphalt, a strong breeze blowing out toward the water. He reappears a few minutes later in shorts and flip-flops. Everybody bundles into their rented white van, Kwaku trying to find his way back to the house in Hollywood. It's a small stucco bungalow with a palm tree out front and a pool out back. Kids play on the street. In a corner of the kitchen are crates of Gatorade -- the real deal, not salt dumped into water. It's a small, big thing. "I love drinking this," Clottey says. He takes a glass of it out to the pool, ice clinking, and lies back in a lounge chair. De Jesus leaves to work with another fighter for the rest of the afternoon; Kwaku gets to work on the chicken soup; Bruce decides to go for a swim. He takes off his shirt, revealing a big belly and a tattoo of a hand dunking a basketball that looks to have been drawn by a child. Bruce rubs it self-consciously and says his first words of the afternoon: "It's incomplete."
Clottey waits for his soup on the lounger. The smell of it comes out from the kitchen window. Birds sing. Kicked back like this, under palm trees by the pool, he looks for the first time less like a contender and more like a champion. It's possible to look at him, here in the sun, and marvel at how far he has come, this man from Ghana who, for one night at least, will find himself at the center of boxing. Looking at him, it's hard not to want to believe what he believes. It's hard not to hope that good things really do happen to good people.
And it's just as hard not to tell him to run.
"Do you ever think -- "
"No think," he says, and he closes his eyes.
The wind picks up. It catches an old awning over the back of the house. The awning breaks off its mooring, falls across the patio door and knocks over a flowerpot sitting on a step. The flowerpot hits the concrete and shatters into pieces. Bruce lets out a little scream. Clottey doesn't even open his eyes.
Chris Jones is a contributing writer for ESPN The Magazine.
Great read.
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Articles like that are why I have a love/hate relationship w/boxing. Love it because a guy like Clottey who came from %*%% will be fighting in front of 40,000 with the chance to earn millions of dollars. Hate it because he is going to be robbed blind of that money by people, as seen with the article, that could really care less about him. Arum will scratch Manny's balls if he asked him to, but can't set Clottey up with some halfway decent training arrangements?
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and for that Im hoping Clottey wipes the floor with Manny and then fires Arum.
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It pissed me off just to read that +%@%. I'm actually a little more hyped to see the fight now though, hopefully Clottey wrecks this dude.
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^smh at dudes going the wwe route. anyone that knows about floyd know's he's real mellow and respectful dude i dunno why they going that route to promote the fight lol.....far as prediction goes ...after fighting a good chunk of his career at 154 at age 38 he's not ready to go toe to toe with the p4p champ ESPECIALLY after a what.....16 month layoff...the shift in speed for margarito to floyd is HUGE. And at the end of the day shane cant out think floyd in that ring
any who in the clottey manny fight.....if i could give any piece of advice to clottey is to keep his jab input through out the fight and try to do a little damage to the body before going head hunting.i hope dude doesnt go in there under estimating manny's power
as far as the urango fight......urango doesnt excite me.its like he's good enough to get in there with the best but he hit his wall do to his limitations in the ring, im more excited in seeing what alexander has and maybe he can be one fight closer to bradley
any who in the clottey manny fight.....if i could give any piece of advice to clottey is to keep his jab input through out the fight and try to do a little damage to the body before going head hunting.i hope dude doesnt go in there under estimating manny's power
as far as the urango fight......urango doesnt excite me.its like he's good enough to get in there with the best but he hit his wall do to his limitations in the ring, im more excited in seeing what alexander has and maybe he can be one fight closer to bradley
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[h2]Promoter accuses Don King of foul play[/h2]
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Ask promoter Lou DiBella and he'll say that what happened was thedirty side of boxing -- that Don King stole light heavyweight titlistTavoris Cloud using a pile of cash as bait and screwed up his April 10HBO "World Championship Boxing" card less than 48 hours beforeWednesday's news conference at which Cloud's mandatory defense againstformer champ Glen Johnson was supposed to be announced.
King, ofcourse, told a different story. In his version, yes, he signed Cloud,but that the fight wasn't going to happen anyway because Cloud has aleft hamstring injury.
Regardless of the version you believe thismuch is clear: Cloud did sign with King even though he may have anexisting promotional agreement with Richie Boy Promotions and he isn'tgoing to face Johnson April 10 at the BankAtlantic Center in Sunrise,Fla. That's where welterweight titlist Andre Berto defends his beltagainst former titleholder Carlos Quintana in the HBO main event.
WithCloud-Johnson off, DiBella worked through Monday night and into Tuesdayto put together a strong replacement fight for the HBO co-feature:junior featherweight titlist Celestino Caballero moving up tofeatherweight to face Daud Yordan for a vacant interim belt that willmake the winner the mandatory challenger for titlist Yuriorkis Gamboa.
DiBella, of course was not happy about what happened.
"Igot a call at literally 10 at night [Monday] from a representative ofKing [Roy Langbord] saying King did a deal with the kid," DiBella toldESPN.com on Tuesday night from Miami, site of the Wednesday newsconference. "I told him that Richie Boy Promotions was the kid'spromoter of record and that I had made deal for the fight with Glen.[Langbord] said there were issues and that King did a deal with Cloud,but that King would talk to me about doing a deal for the fight. Ialready had a deal for the fight. So I'm sitting there -- I have a showon April 10, a press conference on Wednesday and a flight to Miami in12 hours. What the [expletive] is going on here? I told [Langbord] totell Don I have nothing to talk to him about.
"Ten minutes laterI get a call back [from Langbord] saying Cloud is hurt. I was on thephone with his lawyer, with his manager and with his adviser. They saidthey had no idea about him being with King. They were in the blindabout him doing a deal with King and to their knowledge he was healthy.He must have gotten hurt walking up the steps to King's mansion to signthat deal."
King said he simply did a straightforward business deal with a free-agent fighter.
"Idon't know anything about any of that," King told ESPN.com when told ofDiBella's version of events. "All I know is that the guy came to mefive weeks ago and him and his manager [Jerry Attardi] told me they hadno deal with anybody and they asked me to help and I said, 'OK.' Wefinalized the details. He signed with me and I didn't know nothingabout any of this."
King said even if he and DiBella could workout a new deal, Cloud wasn't available to fight April 10 anyway becauseof the injury. Cloud won a title eliminator against former champ JulioGonzalez in August 2008 and didn't fight again until winning the vacantbelt against Clinton Woods a year later. Now, he's mired in anotherlong layoff.
But King produced an e-mail dated March 2 from theIBF to King's office granting a medical waiver and an extension for themandatory fight until May 28. It was based on a previous letter the IBFsaid it received from Dr. Allan Fields, who recommended that Cloud notrun or weight train for at least six weeks.
"This guy is hurt. Hecan't even fight if he wanted to," King said. "I told Lou [throughLangbord] I'd be happy to have him fight Glen, but he can't do it April10. We'll jump through hoops to fight Glen Johnson. But we asked for amedical exception from the IBF, the IBF granted an exception. It's justa postponement of the fight. With or without me, Cloud wouldn't be ableto fight on April 10. So he'll fight Glen Johnson as soon as the doctorclears him."
Once it was clear to DiBella that Cloud-Johnson was off, he went to Plan B: Caballero-Yordan.
"Ihad to make a decision in the middle of the night on whether I couldsave this fight and I didn't think it could, so I turned to the mostmeaningful thing I could do and something that would also work forHBO," DiBella said. "I was on the phone with Caballero's people and wewere in touch with Yordan's people in Indonesia."
DiBella said hebriefly pursued a match between welterweight titlist VyacheslavSenchenko of Ukraine and Antwone Smith, a welterweight prospect DiBellapromotes who is scheduled for the undercard.
"They got back to mequickly and they weren't interested in the fight in this time frame,"DiBella said. "I had already locked in a doubleheader with the site andthe promotional materials were done. So we made Caballero-Yordanovernight and changed everything."
Caballero (33-2, 23 KOs), 33,of Panama, has been one of the top fighters in the world for the pastfew years but struggled for attention from HBO.
Indonesia'sYordan (25-0, 19 KOs), 22, has twice fought in the United States,including when he faced Robert Guerrero in a junior lightweight fighton HBO last March. The fight was declared a no contest after Guerreroquit due to a cut over his eye caused by an accidental head butt. ButYordan looked formidable in his brief appearance.
DiBella said heis considering his legal options against King and Cloud (20-0, 18 KOs).He also said that when Al Bonani, Cloud's trainer who also worked forRichie Boy Promotions, left the company recently and returned to workfor King, he had a feeling this might happen.
"There may be somelawsuits. I suffered damages," DiBella said. "I don't like litigating,but what went down was wrong and the way it went down was wrong."
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short notice to fight Yordan? has disaster written all over it
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Guess Bad Chad & Pascal are supposed to fight....in August.
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Edwin valero the clear cut favorite against lamont?
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