2013-2014 NBA Season Thread - Congrats to the Spurs, DBD is still a buster

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wade should be the one taking the paycut. lebron and bosh should be paid. but i wouldnt be surprised if they all took a paycut and continue to win. riley is gonna make it work somehow. for lebron, why would you want to leave south beach, go back to OHIO? :lol
i could see bosh maybe being intersted in going back home and listening to offers, but he is in the perfect role. be a number 2/3 and jjust play off two hall of famers
 
Wade hasn't sacrificed a thing. He's helped LeBron and they don't win without him, but LeBron has added years to his career. And of course, he won a grand total of 4 playoff games in the 4 years prior to the decision.

Bosh actually sacrificed numbers and a role. Wade? Eh. He'd be dead by now if he had to maintain his 2009/2010 workload with nothing to show for it.

I'm speaking of the whole Bahamas trip after the 2011 Finals that's been well documented by both, where Wade basically told Bron he'd take a backseat and it was his team. That is sacrifice of ego, even if in the back of his mind at that time Wade knew his body was starting to breakdown and it would be in the best interest anyway. Of course Bron has extended his career, but to say Wade hasn't sacrificed his numbers and role as being the guy on the team starting from that debacle in 2011 against Dallas is being dishonest.
 
Why doesn't Memphis want Joerger?

I think he did a solid job for what he was working with and was basically a Zbo punch from maybe upsetting the Thunder.

Memphis front office relies on analytics/metrics/advanced stats.

Most of those guys don't think coaches matter.
 
Lebron isn't Kobe where not getting a certain amount of rings would eat at his soul, I'm sure he'd be fine with 3 (if that happens), with the potential to go for more
 
Why doesn't Memphis want Joerger?

I think he did a solid job for what he was working with and was basically a Zbo punch from maybe upsetting the Thunder.

Because he wasn't necessarily Pera's guy. He was Levien's guy.

A big reason as to why Pera and Levien had it out was due to Levien doing a lot of under handed things.

Not to mention, Joerger continued to play Prince and start him knowing he had no business playing. ( I'm sure that's not the main reason ) :lol .

All in all, Pera felt like how I felt about the team and he's about to take matters into his own hands.

Memphis front office relies on analytics/metrics/advanced stats.

Most of those guys don't think coaches matter.

Far from the truth.

Levien was running the show in Memphis for Pera and there are several things that just did not go together.

They fired Hollins because they felt like Joerger would be more willing to implement a faster style of pace and play some of the younger guys on the team to do so. What happened? He played Tayshaun Prince like he was the most important player on the team. Joerger virtually did the same things Hollins did (he was a little better drawing up plays), but he continued to play the veterans a ton of minutes.

I just think Joerger was not Pera's guy at all. Why do you think Levien is gone and now Joerger wants out? If he was Pera's guy, Joerger would want to remain the coach. Pera was probably more inclined to keeping Hollins because he was more of a veteran coach, so it will not surprise me if he is going all out to get a vet coach now.
 
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If Dirk left Dallas Cuban would've probably said some Nazi **** :lol

Gilbert was an idiot, but so was Bron with the "decision"

both were wrong. both apologized. time heals all. it's over with.

:lol at Cuban potentially calling Dirk a Nazi

dude...seriously...regardless of the offensive nature...all jokes aside...if cuban called dirk a nazi....i'd laugh my *** off. View media item 982628

:lol

That was too ******* funny :lol
 
Where is Justin Timberlake and Peyton Manning to make sense of the Memphis Grizzlies?

Lionel Hollins won.

What's up with all these newly purchased franchises having all this drama???
 
the gambler in me says spurs win by double digits
okc covers the first half
 
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If Brooks actually plays Reggie/Russ/KD/Gold Tooth/Collison for an extended period of time, OKC wins. But he's too stupid to do that, Spurs by 8.
 
Hate intended, I can't stand these damn Spurs though...

Like, yo these dudes been raw since I was in elementary school, I'm sick of my damn barber's dusty Spurs banner every year still having legit relevance to basketball arguments.

I was over these dudes 5 years ago and can't stomach them in another finals, Lord Durant help us all.
 
Spurs -6?

Take it, they'll continue running circles around OKC's defense. OKC won't shoot nearly as good as they did the first game, their bench ain't gonna outscore the Spurs bench again either.. it's gonna take super hero efforts from both Russ and KD for them to win.
 
Where is Justin Timberlake and Peyton Manning to make sense of the Memphis Grizzlies?

Lionel Hollins won.

What's up with all these newly purchased franchises having all this drama???

the local owners released a statement that they are behind Pera. I'm interested to see how this offseason pans out.

Hollins did win, though :lol . I'm sure he's laughing his *** off.
 
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From @FlyerGrizblog:

what happened with memphis? cliff notes? aware me bros waddimiss

..and then everyone and anyone who covers the Grizzlies scrambling to Twitter, text messages, and phone calls to try to get any semblance of an idea of what was going on.

Whatever the details, the message sent yesterday was clear: Robert Pera is asserting his will here. After two seasons of ownership—really only one full season with all of his management team in place, Pera decided he didn't like what he saw, and decided Levien (and Lash, apparently simply by virtue of being Levien's right hand man) had to go.

I spoke to several minority owners yesterday, and none of them had any clue this was about to happen. "Shocked" was the word that kept coming up. The sense I got from conversations yesterday—and what was reported by others (like Chris Herrington, Geoff Calkins, and Chris Vernon) yesterday—was that the minority owners liked Levien, and had no reason to think he wouldn't be continuing in his role. After all, Levien was the guy who put together the ownership group in the first place. Levien was the glue that made the sale of the franchise hang together. It's not clear to me exactly what the confrontation between Pera and Levien was, other than some sort of power struggle. Robert Pera apparently had different ideas.

Ultimately Pera is the man with the right to call the shots, and so he did. Griz fans (and players) (and employees) (and the rest of the city of Memphis) are left wondering (1) just what he thinks he's doing after a season of mostly staying in California and catching two or three games from his suite and (2) whether it's going to work out.

Maybe Levien was the guy who shut down his dream of playing Tony Allen one-on-one. Pera apparently conducted his own end-of-season interviews with the players without the knowledge of the front office and coaching staff. (Calling that "unorthodox" would be putting it mildly.) Maybe they were more candid with him than they were with the front office staff. But Pera has to be smart enough to know that the players shouldn't be the ones calling the shots about the roster and the coaches, right? ...right?

Now the rumors are flying. No one nationally has a clue what's going on, so they're all speculating. There's a (very vague, unsourced) rumor that Pera is interested in John Calipari. There's a (very vague, unsourced, made up by Bill Simmons) rumor that Pera is interested in installing Tom Thibodeau in some sort of president/GM/coach role.

Bottom line is, no one knows what Robert Pera is up to except Robert Pera, and though he may know what he's up to, there's a considerable number of questions about whether he knows what he's doing.

John Hollinger is (reportedly) going to be staying around, but that hasn't been confirmed. Chris Wallace, returned from exile to run the team (until his contract runs out in six weeks, anyway) says Dave Joerger is still the coach, but... that hasn't been confirmed either. Pera hasn't said anything other than the release yesterday announcing Levien and Lash's "departures." Pera hasn't said anything at all.

We'll have to wait and see how all of this shakes out. With all this turmoil, one wonders whether Zach Randolph will now opt in to his player option and make his $16.5 million while the ship goes down. Whether Marc Gasol will really sign with a team being run by this guy next summer, when he (and Mike Conley) appeared to have a great deal of faith in the guys who were calling the shots before yesterday afternoon.

You don't build a solid fan base and a stable platform for long-term success in a small market by being rash, by being impulsive (and/or self-destructive), or by alienating the people who own the other 80 percent of your basketball team. All season long, I tried to be the voice of reason. "These guys know what they're doing," I said. "There's no need to worry." Now the guys I was talking about are gone, and we're left with a controlling owner who's gone rogue.

Maybe this works out. Maybe Pera is going to bring in somebody better, and continue to develop the Grizzlies into one of the smartest, most forward-thinking front offices in the league. But up until yesterday, that's what they already were. Now those decision makers are gone, and over what? At what cost to the team's success on the court, financially, within the Memphis market? At what cost to the ongoing stability of the franchise and the franchise's reputation with the league as a whole? (Remember when Adam Silver called the Grizzlies "a model of small-market success"?)

If it doesn't work out, it rests on the shoulders of the one guy who decided to do this all on his own: Robert Pera. And if it doesn't, there's nothing any of us can do about it anyway. He's the guy who calls the shots. I hope he knows what he's doing.

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Crazy times in the Grizzlies organization continue. According to multiple sources, but first reported by Jerry Zgoda of the Star Tribune, head coach Dave Joerger has been granted permission to interview for the Minnesota Timberwolves' head coach opening.

Joerger is from Minnesota, and has ties to Flip Saunders, so it's not a surprise at all that the Timberwolves came calling. What's surprising—or it would've been surprising before the Grizzlies' Red Wedding reenactment on Monday—is that Joerger was granted permission to interview for the job.

It's been widely reported that Griz owner Robert Pera wanted to fire Joerger early in the season. The reported number was 30 or so games into the season. I've heard from more than one source that Pera may have wanted Joerger fired as early as four or five games into the season. Which, of course, is stupid. But The guys who hired Joerger to replace Lionel Hollins are gone, and now Joerger appears to be free to go if he chooses to, so...

...we'll see. We'll see what the Griz front office looks like after Pera reconstructs it in the way he sees fit, and who fills the coaching opening. There are good coaches available (George Karl) and crappy coaches available (Mark Jackson). Somebody's going to be the coach, anyways.

With any luck, the Grizzlies will get their act together before long. How much luck do the Grizzlies have?
 
He wasn't fired because of his performance, he was fired because he was not Pera's guy for the job :lol . He was LEVIEN'S GUY.

Let's not forget....Pera met with the players SEPARATELY after the season was over to get their opinions of the coach and how they felt about the season. He didn't want the coaching staff or other management apart of those meetings. So, it may not all be Pera just wanting to move Joerger, but I'm sure the players had opinions about the coach as well.

One thing I can say...the two best players on the team loved Hollins (Conley and Gasol). Tony Allen and ZBo hated Hollins because he was a hard ***. They loved Joerger, though. I'm not exactly sure how Conley and Gasol felt about Joerger.
 
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