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2014-15 Official Lakers Season Thread, Vol: We Love Each Other
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I'm sayin tho.
For 1 million dollars we'd have the 2nd highest scoring player in the league off the bench. That's a bargain compared to Crawfords contract.
I really don't get what's wrong with him coming back for that cheap.
Especially if you guys say next year we'll suck just as bad. It's not a long term, expensive commitment. Plus, he comes off the bench so he's not exactly stopping any young players we have from "developing."
He can't do anything but score. Nothing.
We know that. But that's all we'd need from him for 20 Mins a night.
Plus if were stuck with Mike one more year, it's clear Nick excels in his system.
Let him cook.
Kobe-Randle-Swaggy would be a very highly entertaining losing season.
For 1 million dollars we'd have the 2nd highest scoring player in the league off the bench. That's a bargain compared to Crawfords contract.
I really don't get what's wrong with him coming back for that cheap.
Especially if you guys say next year we'll suck just as bad. It's not a long term, expensive commitment. Plus, he comes off the bench so he's not exactly stopping any young players we have from "developing."
He can't do anything but score. Nothing.
We know that. But that's all we'd need from him for 20 Mins a night.
Plus if were stuck with Mike one more year, it's clear Nick excels in his system.
Let him cook.
Kobe-Randle-Swaggy would be a very highly entertaining losing season.
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i dont see how getting amnestied fits in to the argument
carlos boozer is a better offensive player than taj gibson
so the bulls offense would benefit from boozer playing in the 4th because he brings more offense than his replacement.
since we all love stats in here, boozer starts games and gets most of his playing time in the first half chicago ranks 26th in first half (Q1 - Q2) offense and in the second half where boozer misses an entire quarter they are ranked dead last. infact their end of game offense is so bad that it brings the whole game averaged down to being dead last in the league.
so when you struggle to put up points 4th quarter after 4th quarter AND are about to get swept from the 1st round by a lower seed, than maybe just maybe you need to TRY playing one of your better scorers in the 4th quarter.
or you could just stick with the set in stone game plan of play jimmy butler the entire game and sit boozer in the 4th. no exceptions
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That bothers me... none.
The number of people who have completely consistent arguments in here: 0
In the many threads you frequent, if you think that your ramblings are completely consistent, I'm not concerned enough to prove you wrong by stalking your other thread contributions and posting about your inconsistency in here.
But that's me.
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I'm beginning to believe you really didn't watch much Bulls basketball this season.
You cannot, I repeat CANNOT truly believe so highly in boozers CURRENT (not past) offensive abilities if you spent decent time watching this team actually play basketball this season.
Highlight reels don't count.
You got Bulls fans in the nba thread telling you he's trash, but you disagree. Not just a few bulls fans, majority of NT's well known Bulls fans.
You are telling people who live in Chicago, and see Boozer first hand on a daily basis, that they are incorrect about Boozer's skills. You are telling people who know their team
Better than any other fan base does, that they are wrong...
That boozer is much better than they believe.
I mean, that's like someone from Indiana who only watches nationally televised Laker games occasionally telling us that Pau is not soft, in fact he is very tough, and is absolutely needed next season in La. And laughing at you for thinking he's soft.
You cannot, I repeat CANNOT truly believe so highly in boozers CURRENT (not past) offensive abilities if you spent decent time watching this team actually play basketball this season.
Highlight reels don't count.
You got Bulls fans in the nba thread telling you he's trash, but you disagree. Not just a few bulls fans, majority of NT's well known Bulls fans.
You are telling people who live in Chicago, and see Boozer first hand on a daily basis, that they are incorrect about Boozer's skills. You are telling people who know their team
Better than any other fan base does, that they are wrong...
That boozer is much better than they believe.
I mean, that's like someone from Indiana who only watches nationally televised Laker games occasionally telling us that Pau is not soft, in fact he is very tough, and is absolutely needed next season in La. And laughing at you for thinking he's soft.
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I understand that.
They're chasing Melo this summer.
It's an absolute must.
But if he was half as valuable offensively as seaman suggests they'd at least rethink doing it. But he's not. He's past his "prime."
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no one is saying boozer is an allstar
but when your team has apparently no one with the ability to score, than yes boozer will be able to out score people like that
or if we flip it the other way, if you have 5 guys on the floor and they all have more scoring ability than carlos boozer than there is no reason to have the worst offense in the league
people talk about the bulls like its a team of 5 tony allens then think its stupid that carlos boozer is a better scorer than one of those tony allens
but when your team has apparently no one with the ability to score, than yes boozer will be able to out score people like that
or if we flip it the other way, if you have 5 guys on the floor and they all have more scoring ability than carlos boozer than there is no reason to have the worst offense in the league
people talk about the bulls like its a team of 5 tony allens then think its stupid that carlos boozer is a better scorer than one of those tony allens
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so then we can use this and stop blaming dantoni for not getting the most out of pau?
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Waits for draft lottery....
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Yes, we actually can.
Pau is obviously past his prime as well.
Put him in the same boat as Boozer, I got no issue with that.
Pau's current regression, specifically, is not on Mike.
(Can't believe I just genuinely said something's not on Mike
... See? I can be objective too 
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Those stats are not much better.
All you get from it, is Crawford is better defensively, based on Defensive Rating & Defensive Win Shares, which can always be impacted by other players on the court CP3 & DeAndre two of the best defenders in the league.
Look further at Crawford's natural position the 2, and Nick's natural position the 3.
Per 48: Crawford at the 2 17.6PER
Per 48: Young at the 3 17.3PER
On defense:
Per 48: Crawford at the 2 13.0PER
Per 48: Young at the 3 13.2PER
Even paying Swaggy $3mil would be a bargain if you put it up against Crawford's $6+ mil
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we're really calling each other out in the nba thread from the conversations in this thread? 
thought we were all in the same framily plan
*takes off*
thought we were all in the same framily plan
*takes off*
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we're really calling each other out in the nba thread from the conversations in this thread?
thought we were all in the same framily plan
*takes off*
Sowwy gtb
Come back
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I was gonna ask, "Who did that, tho?"
Pau is done, whether coached by MDA or MB or some PJax/Aurbach/Calipari/Kzsrbvlnkopbfyusionhgski clone.
DONE.
Anyone blaming Pau's regression on MDA is forgetting that his regression STARTED w/ PJax, continued through MB, and is actually getting a LITTLE better under MDA (like I've said before, I don't run to stats to validate my opinion; I recognize my opinion as exactly that from the jump, and I go by what I see. It seemed like Pau was more productive last year than I remember him in a WHILE).
(and NO, that doesn't MEAN, all by itself, that MDA is the greatesterest coach ever. We have NEVER DENIED his offensive prowess, at least not from what I've seen. So any offensive accolades that seem to come his way from us, take pause before using those statements to rub in our face that he's great.)
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we're really calling each other out in the nba thread from the conversations in this thread?
thought we were all in the same framily plan
*takes off*
Sowwy gtb
Come back
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Burgers are ready.Sowwy gtbwe're really calling each other out in the nba thread from the conversations in this thread?
thought we were all in the same framily plan
*takes off*
Come back
(did dude call CP out in the NBA thread? I'm not up to speed in there. I know CP called him out in here.)
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i was called out by L2B in here for what i said in the NBA threadBurgers are ready.Sowwy gtbwe're really calling each other out in the nba thread from the conversations in this thread?
thought we were all in the same framily plan
*takes off*
Come back
(did dude call CP out in the NBA thread? I'm not up to speed in there. I know CP called him out in here.)
not really called out, more just directing a NBA thread argument into this thread
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He is getting paid for past performance. He's not $14mil worth anymore.
This is also the team that traded Deng because they were like $2mil a year apart in negotiation.
With amnestying Boozer, it gives them money to chase someone else. Possibly Melo, if they clear a few other guys out.
It's time for him to go. But doesn't say that he isn't valuable for lesser money.
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Burgers are ready.Sowwy gtbwe're really calling each other out in the nba thread from the conversations in this thread?
thought we were all in the same framily plan
*takes off*
Come back
(did dude call CP out in the NBA thread? I'm not up to speed in there. I know CP called him out in here.)
I quoted him last night when I seen him complaining about OKC trading Harden and ruining their potential and lamenting their bench isn't strong enough to help out.
After I spent all day listening to him downplay the Suns trading away 24 year old Joe Johnson, and half a decade worth of draft picks.
Damn ******* right I called that **** out. And all he had to say was yeah, the coaching sucks, that's why the Suns and Thunder can't win the title.
Pau got some empty stats under Mike, but his defense is worse than a turnstyle.
Pau and Nick Young both need to get out of here, unless they want to go after that Top 5 pick. If they want to get to the playoffs again, Nick and Pau gotta go.
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Ford's new Big Board.
1. Wiggins
2. Parker
3. Embiid
4. Exum
5. Randle
6. Gordon
7. Vonleh
8. Smart
9. Harris
10. Ennis
I can copy and paste the prospects you guys want to read about.
1. Wiggins
2. Parker
3. Embiid
4. Exum
5. Randle
6. Gordon
7. Vonleh
8. Smart
9. Harris
10. Ennis
I can copy and paste the prospects you guys want to read about.
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my favorite bulls storyline this season
skip to the "about to be sorry for jabari" part, two teams bulls and lakers
these guys talk all year about how the bulls have no offensive players, and this season they had the perfect chance to grab a free offensive talent
but instead they choose to play starters 40 minutes a game and get knocked out in the first round, what a lot of lakers fans wanted our team to do
so now that the season is over, bulls got no where and got nothing. we are looking to get a top 6 draft pick in a deep draft class
which team had the better season?
skip to the "about to be sorry for jabari" part, two teams bulls and lakers
these guys talk all year about how the bulls have no offensive players, and this season they had the perfect chance to grab a free offensive talent
but instead they choose to play starters 40 minutes a game and get knocked out in the first round, what a lot of lakers fans wanted our team to do
so now that the season is over, bulls got no where and got nothing. we are looking to get a top 6 draft pick in a deep draft class
which team had the better season?
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Bulls. They could have gone further had they not traded Deng, but what's done is done.
They still have 2 first round picks.
They could easily trade Taj to a late lottery team, and have 3 picks between 12-20.
After amnestying Boozer, trading Taj. They could have enough money for Melo.
Rose, Butler, Melo, Noah
Snell, Dunlevy, 3 - 1st round picks (which if they are all 12-20, they would easily move into maybe spots 8 by trading 2 of those picks).
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