2014 NBA Draft Thread

[kevi]

7'5" wingspan tho. Insane

 

[ricardo malta]

LaVine is a DIFFERENT type of athlete, dude is amazing, I hope he can learn to play the point.

Why do people keep trying to pigeon hole him into a PG? He's an SG with elite athleticism and still developing range on his outside shot.

 

[kevi]

what do u guys think the suns should draft? A pf?

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Y'all know how I feel about Lavine, I don't see an ounce of PG ability.

He's strictly a SG.

 

[buc em]

Exactly...I don't see where the hell people see Lavine playing point guard. Just because he's really athletic and went to UCLA does not mean he is Russell Westbrook.

 

[friscostylez]

Why do people keep trying to pigeon hole him into a PG? He's an SG with elite athleticism and still developing range on his outside shot.

I don't get why people get so excited for a big PG. they never really pan out and normally become SGs

 

[pmatic]

The outliers (Westbrook, Wall, Holiday, etc) stand out and make GMs salivate.

 

[victor page]

Dude going lottery next year

 

 

[CP1708]

Why do people keep trying to pigeon hole him into a PG? He's an SG with elite athleticism and still developing range on his outside shot.

I don't get why people get so excited for a big PG. they never really pan out and normally become SGs

Possibly because many that grew up watching the NBA saw a 6-9 PG dominate the league for a decade?

When Penny came up, they were expecting the same thing, and pre injury, he was headed in that direction.

Gary Payton and Jason Kidd were two other tall PG's, and they were both great players.


You get a PG that is anywhere near 6-5 and you have a built in advantage from go if he has any game at all. Can cause problems on defense, see over his own defender, rebound well for the position, possibly finish at the rim better than shorter PG's, all kinds of benefits.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

I don't get why people get so excited for a big PG. they never really pan out and normally become SGs

I like to think of talent evaluation on a radar graph with 4 axis.

Size
Explosiveness
Coordination
Skill

Elite players are on the extreme end of at least two of these categories

Westbrook- size, explosiveness
Blake Griffin, Explosiveness, coordination.
Steve Nash - Coordination, Skill.
Demarcas Cousins - Coordination, Size.

Generational talents are on the extreme end of at least 3 categories.

Dirk, Size coordination, Skill.
David Robinson, Size, Coordination, Explosiveness.
Duncan, Coordination, Skill, Size.

and Lebron Jame and Kevin Durant have it all.



Size is the only one that you can't teach or improve.

It's not perfect but you get the idea.

 

[IATT]

Where do you guys see Lavine going in the draft?

 

[buc em]

Where do you guys see Lavine going in the draft?

Probably mid to late lottery.

 

[IATT]

Any chance he makes it to 21, we need a replacement for thabo..

Insert lamb into the starting lineup.. Reggie is the back pg/sg.. Then we need a 4th guy with fisher going to coach the knicks

 

[certifiedflyboi23]

Any chance he makes it to 21, we need a replacement for thabo..

Insert lamb into the starting lineup.. Reggie is the back pg/sg.. Then we need a 4th guy with fisher going to coach the knicks

Umm Reggie isn't gonna be there next season

 

[IATT]

^ distinct possibility.. And if we move him, hopefully it's to orlando for affalo

but he doesn't become a restricted free agent until after next season

 

[certifiedflyboi23]

^ distinct possibility.. And if we move him, hopefully it's to orlando for affalo

but he doesn't become a restricted free agent until after next season

HE'S GONNA GET PAID.


Y'all should sign Born Ready.


Westbrook. Born Ready. Durant. Ibaka. Adams

 

[friscostylez]

I know why they are excited but I'm saying most tall point guards never really pan out. Can you guys name the last pg at least 6'5 that didn't have to switch to the off guard position? How many teams start a pg at least 6'5?

 

[IATT]

That doesn't happen until after next season

 

[victor page]

Can you guys name the last pg at least 6'5 that didn't have to switch to the off guard position? 

 

Also...a big point is considered 6'4 and up.

 

[friscostylez]

 

Also...a big point is considered 6'4 and up.

Yeah, my focus is on people hyping the 6'5 and over, thinking they will better off at the 1 opposed to the 2. You posted one picture but what about the evans, stuckeys, crawfords etc. Who people thought they should have been point guards due to their size advantage but had to switch to the 2 because that was their better position

 

[osh kosh bosh]

I know why they are excited but I'm saying most tall point guards never really pan out. Can you guys name the last pg at least 6'5 that didn't have to switch to the off guard position? How many teams start a pg at least 6'5?

I mean 6'5+ PG's are rare to begin with.

Livingston when he was healthy stayed at PG.
Vasquez stayed at PG.
Brandon Roy basically played the point when he was healthy.
Iman Shumpert got moved off.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Yeah, my focus is on people hyping the 6'5 and over, thinking they will better off at the 1 opposed to the 2. You posted one picture but what about the evans, stuckeys, etc.

i mean you could say this about any extreme attribute, or any prospects, so few actually pan out.

 

[dacomeup]

No way LaVine is going mid lottery. Between 6-8? Hell no.

 

[certifiedflyboi23]

Anthony Johnson

 

[osh kosh bosh]

No way LaVine is going mid lottery. Between 6-8? Hell no.

The hype is growing man.

I bet someone will reach.

Seems like his range is 8-14