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most of the time top 3 picks are bigs or points
2014 NBA Draft Thread
- Thread in 'Sports & Training' Thread starter Started by doitallpaul,
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fourtyeight48
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Clearly your in the wrong thread. Hang yourself ASAP. Take that to the NBA thread fool.How bout you go play in traffic first, youngin. If you actually read what I wrote instead of poppin off at the mouth like a wannabe tough guy, I clearly said "NBA THREAD" .. Did you say that in the NBA thread? Nope, I didnt think so. Therefore my comment wasn't directed towards you, if it was I would've quoted you. So please miss me with the BS.Cant believe dude compard Embiid to Thomas Robinson in the NBA thread
Cavs should take Wiggins. You can't risk taking Embiid and then he turns into Bowie/Oden while Wiggins becomes the next best thing. Not saying this will happen but we've seen this story far too many times.
Stay in school son. Nobody in this thread ever compared TRob to Embiid. Read.
Where so you see that?
Kill yourself. Now. Hurry up before the Heat and Pacers game start.
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bye Felicia
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IMO a bust is someone who had high expectations and never got it done, plus there was someone who was drafted shortly after them who did get it done, regardless of position. IE oden, kd. Bouie, jordan, barkley. Morrison, roy. When their are hyped up wings who go top few picks, seldom do they fail. Bron, melo, kd, wade, harden, etc.
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I don't like when Oden is labeled a bust, he had debilitating injuries, its not something he could control.
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Bill Simmons says he saw Embiid work out last week and he's completely healthy.
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I give the benefit of the doubt to players if they had injuries.
Greg Oden is NOT a bust IMO.
Greg Oden is NOT a bust IMO.
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Julius Randle is the biggest question mark to me. He's probably my 2nd favorite player in the draft, but I hope he doesnt end up being another Thomas Robinson.
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Was Sam Bowie not a bust? Injuries are part of the game. He's never been able to recover or be serviceable at all. Add to the fact that KD went 2. Bust is justified.
Cavs would be stupid not to take Embiid or Wiggins, but they are the Cavs...
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Give that Cavs sucking at drafting crap a rest.
New GM and new regime is now in place.
New GM and new regime is now in place.
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A whole new Era of cavs slander is upon us
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This makes me happy.
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We label people busts in order to identify mistakes.
If someone got a series of completely debilitating injuries hard to say it was a mistake to draft him.
It was a mistake to draft Olawakandi fromt the jump, also a mistake to draft Kwame those are busts.
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nah being injured does def factor into bust status.
Sam Bowie isn't a bust cuz he was a bad player, he was never a bad player. He had an injury plagued career and never got to really live up to his potential. Had he never gotten hurt who knows how he would've done.
Doesn't matter whether a guy sucked or just was injury plagued, if you don't live up to where you got drafted, the pick is a bust. Period.
Greg Oden is a bust of epic proportions. It's not a slight on his ability, it is what it is. He didn't live up to his potential, didn't live up to his draft position, didn't change the fortunes of the Trailblazers for better, he's a bust.
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BS, everyone regards Bowie a bust.
Injuries do not pardon bust status. It's not a slight on the players ability but if they don't live up to potential be it by injury or just suckdom (in the latter case it would be a slight on ability) they are a bust, period.
It's always been the case. Since when did injuries become a pardon? NOBODY thinks like this, everyone regards Bowie as a bust in the industry. Oden is too.
They're not lazy good for nothings or anything, they just are a bust relative to what they've done (or rather what they haven't done) in the league for the team that drafted them, doesn't matter if it's because of injury.
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becuase what is the point of calling someone a bust then?
I call someone a bust to identify a mistake.
its not a mistake if an act of god stops it from happening.
otherwise its just pointless name calling.
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But that's not what a bust is, it's not just simply a mistake.
It's the lack of production relative to where they were drafted for the team that drafted them. Nothing more, nothing less. Doesn't matter the means for which the production didn't happen. Like Bowie, Oden is a bust.
And it's not name-calling, it is what it is. They didn't do anything for the Blazers. This is fact. We can live in niceties or we can be realists and call 'em for what they are.
When I call Bowie a bust I don't do so with any maliciousness intended, he was a stellar college talent and to his credit he went on to carve out a nice career with the Nets. He was a serviceable player, but by no means did he live up to his tremendous potential. Doesn't matter if it was because of injury, all that matters is production for the team that picked him, he's a bust.
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that what it is to me. period.
bust implies mistake, no one calls pick #60 a draft bust, or pick 30 so its obvious relative to expectations, and context.
is Drazen Petrovic a "bust" free agent signing?
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to each their own, you can have your own definition even if the industry has always called injured players and unproductive/lazy/troublemaking players alike, busts.
*shrug*
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is Drazen Petrovic a "bust" free agent signing becuase he was hit by a car before his contract ended?
is Jay WIllaims a bust because got got in a motorcycle accident?
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Man I don't think it's fair to label guys that couldn't stay healthy—like Bowie and Oden—as busts. Yeah I get where they were drafted and who came after constitutes regret, but those aren't bust situations, that's just bad luck. A bust is drafting Joe Alexander 8th overall.
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no because he was a FA signing, the team didn't invest a pick, he wasn't paid posthumously by the team in a way that affected cap.
terrible example. horrid. grasping straws at this point to try to justify your stance.
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Cavs need to draft Wiggins and move on with their life. They need a 3.
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How about Jay Williams.
whens the last time you heard someone say Jay was a bust?
