2016 Official NBA Off-Season Thread: Former Greatness

dude aint gonna have a job. even he said to svp the other night that, kd is probably the reason why he probably has a job covering okc.
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Lmao get him all the way out of here b
 
Barkley is a total hypocrite, however this I do wonder about.

Hypothetically, let's say KD, Steph and Klay win 3 straight... are you still going to care when the Finals come around and they're playing the Atlanta Hawks in 2020?

I remember in like high school when the Lakers were playing the Nets in the Finals. Instead of watching a couple of those games I just went to go play at the gym. Lot of guys did.... the league kinda sucked back then.

The league is more talented than ever. Primes are being extended due to science. Young guys with potential aren't throwing their careers away. Talent pool is bigger than ever with basketball growing. GSW isn't just walking through the league.
 
They have Wade's bird rights, meaning that they can exceed the salary cap when signing him.



This guy on twitter is a cap-enthusiast. 

The heat don't have Wade's full bird rights because he signed a 1-year deal. Therefore, they cannot exceed the cap to give him 2 years/50 mil.
You're right, not because he signed a 1 yr deal though.

They still had Wade's bird rights at the start of free agencyl. But his cap hold is 30 mil, so they didn't have enough to max out Hassan.

But you saw Hassan got 20+ mil & they don't have his bird rights so the only way to offer him that is to renounce their rights to Wade.

Point being, I stand corrected.

The Heat can't use Bird Rights on Wade because they used their cap space on Whiteside.

Correct. I goofed on that one.
 
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The league is more talented than ever. Primes are being extended due to science. Young guys with potential aren't throwing their careers away. Talent pool is bigger than ever with basketball growing. GSW isn't just walking through the league.
Agreed 100%

I cringe whenever someone says the league is watered down. 
 
If we breakdown top 20 players in the NBA....

Warriors - 4
Spurs - 2
Clippers - 2
Cavs - 2

So, there's 10 guys on 4 teams. The other 10 can be spreaded out amongst the 20 teams in the NBA :lol

You can argue that 70-80% of the top 10 is on those 4 teams.
 
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Barkley out here saying KD trying to cheat his way into a championship when he held phx at gunpoint to trade him to Houston. 
 
You're right, not because he signed a 1 yr deal though.

They still had Wade's bird rights at the start of free agencyl. But his cap hold is 30 mil, so they only had like 16 mil left over to sign Hassan.

But you saw Hassan got 20+ mil & they don't have his bird rights so the only way to offer him that is to renounce their rights to Wade.

Point being, I stand corrected.
 
Yeah, you're right. This stuff gets confusing sometimes 
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Barkley out here saying KD trying to cheat his way into a championship when he held phx at gunpoint to trade him to Houston. 

Houston had Drexler, Pippen, Barkley and Olajuwon in that lineup and Barkley out here flappin his gums. :{
 
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It's always been like this

Why do people keep saying this when clearly you have a group on here who constantly adds LAC and OKC to the contender list every year? Its added on top of the Spurs, whatever team Lebron is on and the Warriors. Even when you start going back to the post Lakers dynasty days, you can see the NBA had parity. We had a Heat vs Mavs finals. back in 2006
 
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If we breakdown top 20 players in the NBA....

Warriors - 4
Spurs - 2
Clippers - 2
Cavs - 2

So, there's 10 guys on 4 teams. The other 10 can be spreaded out amongst the 20 teams in the NBA :lol

You can argue that 70-80% of the top 10 is on those 4 teams.

and thats top 20

is it not fair to say klay and dray are top 10?

dray has to be top 10 if he's better than blake and blake is considered top 10.

and klay is best 2 guard in the L. Best 2 guard has to be top 10.

So Dubs really have 4 of the top 10 and 2 of the top 3...

damn.
 
was he a big reason why they lost or big reason why they were there?

say what you want but  none of those games came down to kd giving the game away ala cwebb or any other infamous losses

it wasnt squarely on him
 
and thats top 20

is it not fair to say klay and dray are top 10?

dray has to be top 10 if he's better than blake and blake is considered top 10.

and klay is best 2 guard in the L. Best 2 guard has to be top 10.

So Dubs really have 4 of the top 10 and 2 of the top 3...

damn.

I agree on all aspects except I got Harden and Butler over Klay.
 
For you contract junkies, what's stopping Wade from getting a bottom heavy deal like Lin got from the Rockets a while back? something like 12 now, then 25 and 25 for the next two.
 
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