2017 NBA Playoffs Thread - CLE @ BOS Game 5 on TNT

[whiplashtw03]

 

 
40% from 15-20 feet out for a 40+ year old is damn good.

Jordan's mid range game with the Wizards was better than a lot of 25 year olds at  that time, in spite of his FG% relative to his days with the Bulls. MJ still averaged 20 as a Wizard at his old age. 

I don't care about him being 40+ years old fam.

If you don't get how shooting 40% from that area while not even taking 1 three a game while still having a 30% Usage rate is pretty awful then I mean, idk what to tell you.

I don't mean to go straight analytics, but dude didn't even crack a 50% TS and all of his shots where basically midrange jumpers during this time. That is awful bro.

When you turn 40, your legs ain't what they used to be especially at the professional level.

Don't act like Jordan's age had nothing to do with it.

When MJ was 36, dude was just as deadly as he was when he was in the peak of his prime.

 

[P C H]

it Was. Gs was better then Cleveland but okc was better then Gs.. Okc was the best team in the L in the playoffs last year.. Best team doesn't always win..

IMO it wasn't and here's why.

All GSW started to do really against OKC was hit their 3's. That's not too crazy when you think about the warriors. That's what they do.

MUCH MORE had to go wrong for GSW to lose to the Cavs than for GSW to win against OKC. They literally just went crazy from 3, but that's what they did all last year so it wasn't really all that uncharacteristic.

 

[whiplashtw03]

Best team (on paper) doesn't always win. That's why the old cliche never fails: "It's all about the matchups" just like "Styles win fights."

GSW may have been the better team (on paper), but the combination of intangibles, luck, Lebron's desire, Curry's choke job in Game 7, etc all led to the demise of the Warriors in the Finals.

Life happens.

 

[MajinZuub]

it Was. Gs was better then Cleveland but okc was better then Gs.. Okc was the best team in the L in the playoffs last year.. Best team doesn't always win..

IMO it wasn't and here's why.

All GSW started to do really against OKC was hit their 3's. That's not too crazy when you think about the warriors. That's what they do.

MUCH MORE had to go wrong for GSW to lose to the Cavs than for GSW to win against OKC. They literally just went crazy from 3, but that's what they did all last year so it wasn't really all that uncharacteristic.

OKC imploded as well. KD and Russ did so much 4th quarter chucking those last few games. When they were running sets that series, it was working really well for them. Game 7 they abandoned everything even Billy D put Russ and KD on blast after lowkey.

 

[P C H]

OKC imploded as well. KD and Russ did so much 4th quarter chucking those last few games. When they were running sets that series, it was working really well for them. Game 7 they abandoned everything even Billy D put Russ and KD on blast after lowkey.

Would have to go watch because often times, when teams win we attribute reasoning for it that's not there due to us wanting to naturally assess why such and such happened.

Was OKC running anything that differently than they did in the regular season? Or were the Warriors going super cold from 3? I'd have to rewatch the series.

 

[shogun]

no they aint. they already lost in the finals

jordan bulls never lost when they played a complete season together.

cavs can beat them

last year was a fluke..Gs was the better team.

Yeah stars aligned for Cleveland last year. Started with the Draymond suspension and it snowballed from there. Does anyone actually think Cleveland was better than Golden State last year? Better team doesn't always win the series.

At least durant is there now to score if steph and klay struggle with their shot in the finals. steph throwing that behind the back pass straight out of bounds is still one of the dumbest things I've seen.

 

[Lovetohate3000]

Best team (on paper) doesn't always win. That's why the old cliche never fails: "It's all about the matchups" just like "Styles win fights."

GSW may have been the better team (on paper), but the combination of intangibles, luck, Lebron's desire, Curry's choke job in Game 7, etc all led to the demise of the Warriors in the Finals.

Life happens.

not just on paper was Gs the better team. Cleveland winning was a miracle. Total points was 699 to 703 iirc . They outscored them by 4 points.
Cleveland won the chip so they were better? Nah, ish was a fluke imo.lebrons desire [emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji]stop that already.

 

[P C H]

"Lebron's Desire"

So where was this desire when they were down 3-1 in the first place lmao

 

[noblekane]

iggy is slumping like harrison barnes did last year

 

[dman14]

just watched the was/bos highlights
knew that gm was going to be mma shenanigans

 

[noblekane]

and the warriors bench is buttcheeks

 

[dragicon]

Best team (on paper) doesn't always win. That's why the old cliche never fails: "It's all about the matchups" just like "Styles win fights."

GSW may have been the better team (on paper), but the combination of intangibles, luck, Lebron's desire, Curry's choke job in Game 7, etc all led to the demise of the Warriors in the Finals.

Life happens.

not just on paper was Gs the better team. Cleveland winning was a miracle. Total points was 699 to 703 iirc . They outscored them by 4 points.
Cleveland won the chip so they were better? Nah, ish was a fluke imo.

A 7 game series win in the NBA is never a fluke. In a one game playoff, flukes happen.... not a 7.

 

[whiplashtw03]

Here's the thing about last year's Finals...

You were 73-9 in the regular season, you just came back to win against OKC after being down 1-3 in the WCF, you had your enforcer back in the lineup for TWO FULL GAMES after his suspension, you're AT HOME for the do-or-die Game 7 with a raucous crowd behind you, AND your two best scorers decide to play one of their worst games of the entire season.

There should be NO WAY the Warriors lose that deciding game, especially when you're supposed to be the best team in the league hands down.

Not enough credit is being given to the way CLE executed in the fourth quarter and how CLE made every single play count during the deciding moments. Warriors were TAKEN OUT of their game when it mattered most, no if's and's or but's about it

 

[Lovetohate3000]

"Lebron's Desire"

So where was this desire when they were down 3-1 in the first place lmao

LeBrons desire [emoji]128514[/emoji]... Dead.

 

[whiplashtw03]

 

Best team (on paper) doesn't always win. That's why the old cliche never fails: "It's all about the matchups" just like "Styles win fights."

GSW may have been the better team (on paper), but the combination of intangibles, luck, Lebron's desire, Curry's choke job in Game 7, etc all led to the demise of the Warriors in the Finals.

Life happens.

not just on paper was Gs the better team. Cleveland winning was a miracle. Total points was 699 to 703 iirc . They outscored them by 4 points.
Cleveland won the chip so they were better? Nah, ish was a fluke imo.lebrons desire [emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji]stop that already.

Your opinion, not mine

 

[Lovetohate3000]

A 7 game series win in the NBA is never a fluke. In a one game playoff, flukes happen.... not a 7.

no flukes happen. It came down to one playoff game and the final minutes. To say one team was much better because they had a better minute and scored 4 more points [emoji]128513[/emoji][emoji]128513[/emoji][emoji]128513[/emoji] even in 7 game series the better team don't always win....most of the time they do, but there are exceptions.. Like last year

 

[whiplashtw03]

 
"Lebron's Desire"

So where was this desire when they were down 3-1 in the first place lmao

It was there the entire time. You just didn't see it because you too old bruh. You 50 remember? 

 

[Maximus Meridius]

Best team (on paper) doesn't always win. That's why the old cliche never fails: "It's all about the matchups" just like "Styles win fights."

GSW may have been the better team (on paper), but the combination of intangibles, luck, Lebron's desire, Curry's choke job in Game 7, etc all led to the demise of the Warriors in the Finals.

Life happens.

not just on paper was Gs the better team. Cleveland winning was a miracle. Total points was 699 to 703 iirc . They outscored them by 4 points.
Cleveland won the chip so they were better? Nah, ish was a fluke imo.lebrons desire [emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji]stop that already.

Winning a 7 game series is a fluke? And on the road.


Some of ya'll just say any f'n thing.

 

[whiplashtw03]

 A 7 game series win in the NBA is never a fluke. In a one game playoff, flukes happen.... not a 7.

Exactly

 

[whiplashtw03]

 Winning a 7 game series is a fluke?

And on the road.

Some of ya'll just say any f'n thing.

Exactly again.

 

[P C H]

 
It was there the entire time. You just didn't see it because you too old bruh. You 50 remember? 

Lol I was getting my dentures fixed and missed the first four games

 

[Lovetohate3000]

Lol I was getting my dentures fixed and missed the first four games

[emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji]

 

[Trey Bantz]

I can personally attest to the fact that LeBron's "desire" has a half life.

He got the monkey off his back in Cleveland, his "desire" won't be as strong as it was last year.

 

[Deleted member 37467]

@ last year being a fluke.

I saw LBJ & Delly beat pretty much the same GSW twice 2 years ago.

GSW had 2 chances to close out CLE AT HOME, I don't wanna hear **** about a fluke.

 

[whiplashtw03]

Wanna know what can be considered "fluke" wins?

The New York Giants squeaking out a win in the SB against the 16-0 Patriots because of a fluke of a helmet catch by David Tyree on the heels of a scrambling-backwards-for-his-dear-life Eli Manning.

Another fluke was this year's Super Bowl where the Falcons' inept coaching staff manage to blow a 28-3 lead LATE in the third quarter to allow Brady every opportunity to clinch another SB win while ATL blew one play after another.

More flukes:  Seattle deciding to pass the ball at the 1-yard line against the Pats in the SB allowing Malcolm Butler to intercept a TELEGRAPHED play instead of simply giving the rock to Marshawn Lynch to ice the win for Sea.

All of these are 1-game elimination games.