2022 NBA Offseason Thread: Preseason kicks off; Things are fine in Los Angeles, Draymond beats the charges

[HIM]

“Besides winning a championship”

 

[amitt5504]

Big MaLeeka Thread

 

[datznasty]

But I mean in discussion against Ben Wallace though? Ben Wallace would be unplayable regular and post season in modern basketballl, and himself has 0 moves, routinely airballed free throws. He just played in that 65-68 final score era Eastern Conference

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Victor and Scoot on again will cleanse the palate of this current discussion

 

[D StaXX]

I certainly recognize the handicap that comes with Rudy Gobert in modern playoff basketball. But I draw the line at knocking him for not having “moves”. He’s not in the NBA for that.

His profile has always been rim protector/rim runner. He was a late first round project that developed into someone who provides elite value at those things. Y’all put so much stock into the playoffs on here and he anchored a perennial playoff team. We all know they weren’t there because Donovan Mitchell carried them there.

I hear you, but when you're on a max contract and complain about wanting more offensive touches, what else do you expect to happen? We get on Russ for being out of touch all the time. Rudy is no different.

 

[DLF]

She's the wife of their VP of finance and controller so the FO kinda had to do something

So then why didn’t she get fired for having an affair with the coach?

 

[wavycrocket]

I don't understand how anybody could still have stock in Rudy at this point. I'm not even sure what yall are arguing besides 'he is what he is'..which is the same thing the detractors are saying

 

[lovehateself]

So then why didn’t she get fired for having an affair with the coach?

she not high up enough on the totem pole

and she eventually became the victim of unwanted advances ...right

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Commentator said "that dude has a wetter". Is that really what he said lol

 

[dacomeup]

I was hoping it was at least a bad white girl. C'mon Ime, risk your reputation for that.

I’ve heard that redhead P is allegedly fire

 

[aepps20]

Big MaLeeka Thread

Ratings were higher under Rachel no matter what da data says.

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

John Jenkins again!

 

[wavycrocket]

I hear you, but when you're on a max contract and complain about wanting more offensive touches, what else do you expect to happen? We get on Russ for being out of touch all the time. Rudy is no different.

I wouldn’t call it complaining, when the guard has tunnel vision and is missing you on lobs/duck ins. Those are just plays smart and good passing basketball teams make. It’s not like he can’t convert those. He’s not really asking for more post ups .

The Russ comparison is just off. Two totally different situations. We get on Russ because he’s been refusing to do the things that will actually help his team win.

By back to Rudy…Y’all wasn’t f’n with Rudy because the media and other folks told you the Frenchman was a goofy, offensive dud….who “got exposed in the playoffs”. And while there is some truth to the playoff part (I wouldn’t call it exposed). It’s only a small part of the story.

When in reality, he’s one of the better defenders and a good player in this league, who had a ceiling based on his team and his own deficiencies.

The convo around Rudy always strikes me as easy target ****. But it is what it is

 

[ballinsam23]

NT also overvalues offensive players. Its been the case with guards/wings/etc. If you play offensive regardless if it contributes to winning then NT will root for you.

Defensive players (especially bigs) get a bad rep on here.

 

[aepps20]

I was hoping it was at least a white woman. Well done Ime

I agree. She is WHITE so by definition she is BAD AKA BEAUTIFUL. IME MADE DA RIGHT CHOICE.

 

[clyde the glide]

But I mean in discussion against Ben Wallace though? Ben Wallace would be unplayable regular and post season in modern basketballl, and himself has 0 moves, routinely airballed free throws. He just played in that 65-68 final score era Eastern Conference

Ben could hit the open mid range and was overall just a bit more fluid on offense than Rudy the robot. But yes today's league underdevelops big men so they don't have to pay them so yeah he likely wouldn't have the same impact in this era

 

[addict4sneakers]

NT also overvalues offensive players. Its been the case with guards/wings/etc. If you play offensive regardless if it contributes to winning then NT will root for you.

Defensive players (especially bigs) get a bad rep on here.

Yeah this isn’t true because everyone will tell you important Draymond is defensively. Whole thread was miring looney because he sitting on switches. Everyone respects Giannis defense. AD too. Time lord was everywhere when he could bend his knees

Rudy just isn’t like that. Throw a guard on the corner and watch him wither away. Put him in pick and roll defense and he’s just gonna drop back. Playoff defense, what’s the difference between him and brook lopez? Him or Capela?

 

[addict4sneakers]

Ben could hit the open mid range and was overall just a bit more fluid on offense than Rudy the robot. But yes today's league underdevelops big men so they don't have to pay them so yeah he likely wouldn't have the same impact in this era

Ben who?

 

[datznasty]

Ben could hit the open mid range and was overall just a bit more fluid on offense than Rudy the robot. But yes today's league underdevelops big men so they don't have to pay them so yeah he likely wouldn't have the same impact in this era

You’re misremembering

Ben wouldnt score on Dennis Schroeder in the post either

 

[antidope]

“Besides winning a championship”

RINGZZZZZZZ. Nasty work man. It doesn't just automatically create separation between two people.

 

[wavycrocket]

Ben could hit the open mid range and was overall just a bit more fluid on offense than Rudy the robot. But yes today's league underdevelops big men so they don't have to pay them so yeah he likely wouldn't have the same impact in this era

THIS WHOLE POST IS TERRIBLE. From beginning to end.

All bad

 

[ballinsam23]

Yeah this isn’t true because everyone will tell you important Draymond is defensively. Whole thread was miring looney because he sitting on switches. Everyone respects Giannis defense. AD too. Time lord was everywhere when he could bend his knees

Rudy just isn’t like that. Throw a guard on the corner and watch him wither away. Put him in pick and roll defense and he’s just gonna drop back. Playoff defense, what’s the difference between him and brook lopez? Him or Capela?

All those guys you mentioned arent like Rudy though. They can play make or score on the perimeter. They have other things going for them than defense.

Also this thread thinks Draymond is a system player and alot of people had the same sentiments Harden had about Giannis.

Rudy an old school center. Isnt DPOY voted on? Clearly the league values him.

 

[B Sox]

Health aside, I’d be upset if the Cs swapped Timelord for Rudy. Doesn’t make the same impact defensively.

 

[N41D]

N41D

We're here

My guy

The catch and shoot numbers were always the biggest indicator to me that he's a great fit here. Can take some time growing him into a ball handler/play maker/finisher.

Got the skills. Needs some time to grow. But he can hoop.

 

[P C H]

Rudy's offense is a bit more detrimental than his defensive limitations come playoff time. If teams can just switch and put their 6'2 pg on Rudy and he can't do anything with that then that's a fatal flaw.

Is that all on Mitchell, Clarkson, Conley, etc. for not getting him the ball in those situations? Partly but I'm betting they would have if they felt he could do something with that supposed man advantage.

IMO