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I mean by his logic they should all be looking to sign with Nike and wearing Lebron stuff
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I mean by his logic they should all be looking to sign with Nike and wearing Lebron stuff
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I think he was being sarcastic.
Jordan is out here with EVERY single young star.
JB lineup is INSANE.
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No one besides
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and Draymond, hears the number 23 and thinks of Bron
WASHED KING
and Draymond, hears the number 23 and thinks of Bron
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give him like 50 something, a LB number
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I think the precedent has been set that you have to be more than a legend of the game to get your number retired league wide. Jackie Robison, now Bill Russell the reasons are clear it’s more than just who they where as athletes but who they where as people and what they represented as people. I don’t think any athlete alive right now measures up to that currently. If they didn’t retire Kobe’s number after his tragic passing I don’t see Jordan’s or anyone else’s being retired league wide again most likely.
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And this is why league-wide jersey retirements don't work. There are no broad-sweeping criteria. Let's just not do it ever.
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Number 23 is God Like.
It’s different. The influence is crazy and it’s not going anywhere.
Pele put number 10 on the map and no one ever saw him play 60 years ago.
Jordan’s influence is/was way bigger globally than Pele ever was.
It’s different. The influence is crazy and it’s not going anywhere.
Pele put number 10 on the map and no one ever saw him play 60 years ago.
Jordan’s influence is/was way bigger globally than Pele ever was.
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If Kobe had a line I wonder what that would look like. Derozan lavine AD Kyrie Giannis. Bron's would probably be something like Dwight draymond Eric Bledsoe Tht jokic
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No one besides
I lowkey think the reason Mike never really ****** with Lebron is because he wears that number
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Kobe was/is one of my favorite players ever.
But nobody was wearing 24 like that man.
What do you mean?
24 wasn’t worldwide like MJ’s 23. It didn’t have that type of influence.
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I’m not just talking about how many people wore it and influence but the circumstances in which numbers are retired sometimes.
What I’m saying is they already showing that a league wide number retirement is not just about how great you were on the court and your influence off it commercially world wide aint really a factor
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It’s no question how iconic it is but I’d be surprised if it was because of the reasons the other two in American sports where retired. It’s no disrespect to Jordan at all to say he don’t fit that specific standard that’s been set for it by Jackie Robison and Bill Russell.
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I didn’t say Jordan fits the Jackie/Bill Russell/Ali standard. He doesn’t.
But IMO 23 will be retired one day for a different standard - Global influence.
We’ve never a jersey number takeover the world like that (still). And honestly, we may never see it again.
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I know you meant saying it would be for a different standard I just don’t think that different standard a good or powerful enough reason in comparison to the current standard that’s been set imo. Not to say that global influence like we never seen before isn’t an incredible thing but it’s not as incredible as being a civil rights icon and legendary human being
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Jordan's greatness strictly revolves around basketball.
He transcended the game but it's for everything he did on the court.
Bill & Jackie went beyond that so I don't think 23 will be retired either.
Plus who besides Lebron wears 23 and constantly bigs Jordan up as the reason?
23 isn't even a desirable number across sports like that today.
He transcended the game but it's for everything he did on the court.
Bill & Jackie went beyond that so I don't think 23 will be retired either.
Plus who besides Lebron wears 23 and constantly bigs Jordan up as the reason?
23 isn't even a desirable number across sports like that today.
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Jordan and magic paved the way for individualism and to be marketed as such
At least for players I don’t think there was anyone more influential than Jordan in that way
Goes without saying, the players should be thankful for him. They should retire his number based on that alone- it elevated the league as a whole too
At least for players I don’t think there was anyone more influential than Jordan in that way
Goes without saying, the players should be thankful for him. They should retire his number based on that alone- it elevated the league as a whole too
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I agree with that tho.
All I’m saying is that it’s going to happen eventually. I don’t make the rules.
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Isn’t the narrative that Magic, bird and jordan took the league and finals out of being tape delayed?
Based on that plus their other influences/accomplishments I don’t think it’s unrealistic to retire one or all their numbers
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Exactly. The “standard” will change.
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There's a good chance 23 is eventually retired league wide
Both Mike and Bron wore the number, it deserves that much respect
Both Mike and Bron wore the number, it deserves that much respect
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