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2023 MLB Thread; Say Hey, everybody: Rest In Power, Willie
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Harper and Machado will be yabkees.
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I'm thinking one but not both. But time will tell, let's hope they make their decisions soon instead of having a circus all winter
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Hoping the White Sox can sign Manny.
Longgggg shot though, but if it's truly about the money they have the opportunity to give Manny a blank check.
Longgggg shot though, but if it's truly about the money they have the opportunity to give Manny a blank check.
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The ole reverse jinx I see. I guess it's like 3 Phillies fans on here lol. I hope the rumors are true but this waiting is kinda fun too seeing people speculating.
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JD Martinez winning a Silver Slugger for an OF & DH is dumb as hell
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Interesting about Kris Bryant 
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I don't think Manfred has been all that bad during his tenure, or am I wrong there? I do remember him looking bad during this interview tho
- https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/...-tough-le-batard-interview-about-the-marlins/
.I don't think Manfred has been all that bad during his tenure, or am I wrong there? I do remember him looking bad during this interview tho
- https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/...-tough-le-batard-interview-about-the-marlins/
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I don't really know much about Manfred. Last time I heard about him hinting possible DH adopt for NL
Mets don't need him
Mets don't need him
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anybody got that link for that espn+ story on kluber?
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Exactly
Mets gonna Mets
Exactly
Mets gonna Mets
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Braves need Kluber... Depends on the price though
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Why is chicago open to trading Bryant?
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Well he’s a Boras client, and they turned down a substantial contract offer this year. from my people within the know in that clubhouse it was cin the 200m’s + range .. (Baez / Contreras & KB) actually all turned down extensions this summer. (part of the reason Contreras struggled during the second half, he was pressing cause of the money he turned down, which was a nice deal as well. He had that in the back of his mind the whole time with the thinking of “i turned down that much $$, now I’m pressing & slumping did i make a mistake? Will i get an offer like that again?”
KB & Boras are adamant that they will not be signing a new ‘tract until he reaches free agency and the cubs feel come that time they might not be able to reach that $$ commitment. It’s crazy to me, but for all of the improvements in Wrigley / the sponsorships they have & the new television network coming in, the Cubs are operating and speaking under the assumption that they are some what financially strapped. They are feeling some of the effects of that Chatwood / Darvish / Heyward deal.
KB will be 27 in Jan and has 4 more years on his deal til he reaches FA... so at age 31, are you paying 300 M’s for him? (Which of course Boras wants) I think not. It’s tough for Cubs fans to think of him being gone, but i think they should consider it for the right deal. In the end i think he stays, but a KB trade at age 27 will almost certainly bring back MLB players + top prospects to the cubs in a deal
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A Corey Kluber blockbuster? These teams might be in the mix
The Indians are open to trade offers -- even for their ace. Adding Corey Kluber to one of these clubs could help shift the balance of power in 2019 and beyond. Jay Biggerstaff-USA TODAY Sports
Corey Kluber will be 33 years old next April, and if he was about to hit free agency there would be important questions about the high risk of a long-term investment in a pitcher with more than 2,000 innings logged in professional baseball.
But Kluber, the Cy Young award winner in the American League in 2014 and 2017, is not a free agent; rather, he's under team control for the next three years, but only a year at a time through a series of one-year club options. He's set to make $17 million next year, and next fall the front office for which he works can decide whether to pick up a $17.5 million option for 2020, and if so, it can wait through the 2020 season before choosing whether to exercise the $18 million option on 2021.
The contract bears almost no risk whatsoever, and for clubs of every market size this would help to make him an enormously attractive trade target now that the Indians are actively listening to offers for their most expensive players.
Buster's Buzz: Harper rejects $300 million? All part of Boras' blueprint
When the Nats' rejected offer was leaked, many assumed the superagent was behind it. Baseball officials and rival agents know the Boras playbook -- and here's what they see coming next.
The Indians are also open for business if teams want to discuss Carlos Carrasco, who's playing under a contract structured similarly to that of Kluber, or Trevor Bauer, who is eligible for arbitration after the best season of his career. They'll listen to offers for catchers Yan Gomesand Roberto Perez.
They aren't tanking, however. They won't trade shortstop Francisco Lindor or fellow infielder Jose Ramirez, and they'll probably wind up keeping one or two of the trio of Kluber, Carrasco and Bauer to couple with Mike Clevinger and Shane Bieber. The Indians will go into 2019 as heavy favorites to win the weak AL Central, again.
But capitalizing now on the value of Kluber's standing as one of baseball's best pitchers, as well as his contract, and using him as a vehicle to shed dollars and add prospects could make a lot of sense for the Indians.
Some teams that could be a match for a Kluber deal:
The Padres: Kluber began his professional career in the San Diego organization before he was dealt to Cleveland in 2010 in a three-team trade that resulted in the Padres getting outfielder Ryan Ludwick. The Padres have been desperately looking for a veteran starter to front a rotation that will be talented and young moving forward, and they are loaded with prospects; the Indians won't have trouble finding possible matches. The Padres have demonstrated the willingness to take bad contracts in order to add a targeted player -- last year, they absorbed the $13 million owed to Chase Headley in order to take on Bryan Mitchell. San Diego might be able to take Kipnis.
The Dodgers: There's some question about how much L.A. is willing to spend for next season, but Kluber could be a great value addition and be part of a rotation of tremendous potential -- Clayton Kershaw, Walker Buehler, Rich Hill, Kluber, others. If the Indians insisted any Kluber buyer take a big salary as well, Kipnis would be the better fit because Encarnacion really isn't a viable option in the NL -- he played 46 games at first base the past two seasons, and was a DH in all others.
The Mets: If new GM Brodie Van Wagenen is looking for ways to live up to his oath to win in 2019, adding Kluber might be the most effective and financially efficient. The Mets' rotation would be incredible, with Jacob deGrom, Kluber, Noah Syndergaard and Zack Wheeler, and Kipnis could play some second base and some outfield. Additionally, the Mets are looking for catching, and Gomes would be a solid short-term fix. New York manager Mickey Callaway is very familiar with all of them, of course, having served as Kluber's pitching coach in Cleveland.
The Yankees: GM Brian Cashman is looking for two starting pitchers at a time when the top of the club's farm system is said by other teams to be thin. He could sign a couple of free agents, picking from a group that includes Patrick Corbin, Nathan Eovaldi and J.A. Happ, but he could also consider Kluber, whose contract could provide flexibility for the Yankees to do other things.
Put it this way: Would it be better for the Yankees to sign a Corbin or an Eovaldi to a four- or five-year deal, or to give up prospects to land a star with a series of one-year deals?
The Reds: They are trying to take a step forward and need starting pitching, and they have made it clear they have money to spend this winter. Usually, elite free-agent starters won't even consider the Reds because they play in a hitter-friendly bandbox, so a trade for Kluber could make sense as the best avenue to land a high-end and affordable starter.
The Astros: Dallas Keuchel is a free agent and unlikely to re-sign, Charlie Morton is also on the open market and Lance McCullers Jr. just had reconstructive elbow surgery. The Astros need three starting pitchers and Kluber could be a fit. The context for any conversations, however, will be interesting: The Indians were among the teams enraged by the Astros' alleged brazen use of a spy, so the level of trust between the organizations is probably not especially high at the moment.
Other teams that could be a match: The Angels, Rays, Brewers.
The Indians are open to trade offers -- even for their ace. Adding Corey Kluber to one of these clubs could help shift the balance of power in 2019 and beyond. Jay Biggerstaff-USA TODAY Sports
Corey Kluber will be 33 years old next April, and if he was about to hit free agency there would be important questions about the high risk of a long-term investment in a pitcher with more than 2,000 innings logged in professional baseball.
But Kluber, the Cy Young award winner in the American League in 2014 and 2017, is not a free agent; rather, he's under team control for the next three years, but only a year at a time through a series of one-year club options. He's set to make $17 million next year, and next fall the front office for which he works can decide whether to pick up a $17.5 million option for 2020, and if so, it can wait through the 2020 season before choosing whether to exercise the $18 million option on 2021.
The contract bears almost no risk whatsoever, and for clubs of every market size this would help to make him an enormously attractive trade target now that the Indians are actively listening to offers for their most expensive players.
Buster's Buzz: Harper rejects $300 million? All part of Boras' blueprint
When the Nats' rejected offer was leaked, many assumed the superagent was behind it. Baseball officials and rival agents know the Boras playbook -- and here's what they see coming next.
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The Indians are also open for business if teams want to discuss Carlos Carrasco, who's playing under a contract structured similarly to that of Kluber, or Trevor Bauer, who is eligible for arbitration after the best season of his career. They'll listen to offers for catchers Yan Gomesand Roberto Perez.
They aren't tanking, however. They won't trade shortstop Francisco Lindor or fellow infielder Jose Ramirez, and they'll probably wind up keeping one or two of the trio of Kluber, Carrasco and Bauer to couple with Mike Clevinger and Shane Bieber. The Indians will go into 2019 as heavy favorites to win the weak AL Central, again.
But capitalizing now on the value of Kluber's standing as one of baseball's best pitchers, as well as his contract, and using him as a vehicle to shed dollars and add prospects could make a lot of sense for the Indians.
Some teams that could be a match for a Kluber deal:
The Padres: Kluber began his professional career in the San Diego organization before he was dealt to Cleveland in 2010 in a three-team trade that resulted in the Padres getting outfielder Ryan Ludwick. The Padres have been desperately looking for a veteran starter to front a rotation that will be talented and young moving forward, and they are loaded with prospects; the Indians won't have trouble finding possible matches. The Padres have demonstrated the willingness to take bad contracts in order to add a targeted player -- last year, they absorbed the $13 million owed to Chase Headley in order to take on Bryan Mitchell. San Diego might be able to take Kipnis.
The Dodgers: There's some question about how much L.A. is willing to spend for next season, but Kluber could be a great value addition and be part of a rotation of tremendous potential -- Clayton Kershaw, Walker Buehler, Rich Hill, Kluber, others. If the Indians insisted any Kluber buyer take a big salary as well, Kipnis would be the better fit because Encarnacion really isn't a viable option in the NL -- he played 46 games at first base the past two seasons, and was a DH in all others.
The Mets: If new GM Brodie Van Wagenen is looking for ways to live up to his oath to win in 2019, adding Kluber might be the most effective and financially efficient. The Mets' rotation would be incredible, with Jacob deGrom, Kluber, Noah Syndergaard and Zack Wheeler, and Kipnis could play some second base and some outfield. Additionally, the Mets are looking for catching, and Gomes would be a solid short-term fix. New York manager Mickey Callaway is very familiar with all of them, of course, having served as Kluber's pitching coach in Cleveland.
The Yankees: GM Brian Cashman is looking for two starting pitchers at a time when the top of the club's farm system is said by other teams to be thin. He could sign a couple of free agents, picking from a group that includes Patrick Corbin, Nathan Eovaldi and J.A. Happ, but he could also consider Kluber, whose contract could provide flexibility for the Yankees to do other things.
Put it this way: Would it be better for the Yankees to sign a Corbin or an Eovaldi to a four- or five-year deal, or to give up prospects to land a star with a series of one-year deals?
The Reds: They are trying to take a step forward and need starting pitching, and they have made it clear they have money to spend this winter. Usually, elite free-agent starters won't even consider the Reds because they play in a hitter-friendly bandbox, so a trade for Kluber could make sense as the best avenue to land a high-end and affordable starter.
The Astros: Dallas Keuchel is a free agent and unlikely to re-sign, Charlie Morton is also on the open market and Lance McCullers Jr. just had reconstructive elbow surgery. The Astros need three starting pitchers and Kluber could be a fit. The context for any conversations, however, will be interesting: The Indians were among the teams enraged by the Astros' alleged brazen use of a spy, so the level of trust between the organizations is probably not especially high at the moment.
Other teams that could be a match: The Angels, Rays, Brewers.
I would hope the Padres would’ve learned their lesson on signing high prices free agents while being nowhere near a contender
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Crazy the Cubbies went from a dynasty-in-the-making to perhaps needing to "rebuild" a bit here.
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They went ALL in and won a championship
How’s their minor league system look now? And they’re Paying $50 million + on 2 players that suck
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Baseball writers making **** it, it’s a slow offseasonThey aren't.
Stop believing everything "insiders" say.
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Baseball writers making **** it, it’s a slow offseason
Theo, refuted that nonsense 37 seconds after it came out.
And worrying about Bryant at 31, 4 years from now, is comical.
Theo will be active, but Bryant isn't going anywhere.
