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Stephen A. Smith is on 1050 ESPN radio right now and says that LeBron and Bosh will be playing in Miami with Wade. He says his source has "never led him astray"
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Kobe aint dwarfed by it in L.A. though.Originally Posted by AntBanks81
Jordan's shadow covers the entire league...you see it on Kobe right?
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not like it has been and will be cast on Lebron. Was Kobe touted as the next MJ right out of HS? Kobe failed big time as a teenager in the NBA hoisting up air ball 3's against Utah in the playoffs. But Kobe played his way into GOAT talk. Lebron was "the next big thing" since his sophmore/junior year of HS. It will only get worse if he goes to Chicago. And had Kobe actually gone to Chicago a couple of years ago, he would've been ripped apart too for not winning/Originally Posted by AntBanks81
Jordan's shadow covers the entire league...you see it on Kobe right?
Yeah, Nick Friedell is a chicago writer who will try to say anything to get lebron in chicago, but no question when he arrives, they will not immortalize lebron just like jordan.Originally Posted by LosALMIGHTY
I'm sorry Cake, did you say something that refutes my point? I wasn't listening.Originally Posted by Seymore CAKE
Originally Posted by copped
Originally Posted by LosALMIGHTY
I can live with Amare & Joe even though Amare drives me insane (I'm a Suns fan too). Joe can create his own shot better than Wilson can & Gallo will get there soon. Imagine Amare, Joe, TP, Gallo, and Lee? All this sure thing talk is annoying.
If bron is all about his image and being a billionaire athlete, Chiacago might provide the fasted route. But if he's worried about his legacy, which I don't think he is, Chicago will be a dumb place to play. He will forever be in Jordans shadow because he had to come to a playoff team with another all-star via FA to win his championships. The only places he can have that legacy thats on par with MJ is in Cleveland and NY. Cleveland because he is homegrown and won it with his team. NY because be took a franchise from rags to riches.
Basically how I feel about this whole thing. Well-put.
Bulls: will forever be in the back of jordans shadow...will see his statue each day he comes to work...how can he build his own legacy? sorry lebron no room for 2 statues out front...its way to early for people to win in chicago and not be compared or seen as being 'not as good as MJ'
Interestingly Enough I Just Finished Reading This Before I Clicked This Thread...
James has nothing to fear from Jordan
By Nick Friedell
Out of all the strange theories as to whyLeBron Jameswouldn't want to sign with theChicago Bullsthis summer, there's always been one that made me scratch my head more than the others:
Why would LeBron James want to play inMichael Jordan's shadow?
Seriously?
Granted, like most NBA superstars, James seems to have an ego. There's no doubt that he would love to win an NBA title in Cleveland and take the Larry O'Brien trophy on a tour of Akron in the process. It would only solidify his standing as the once and future king of Northeast Ohio. But that doesn't appear to be a possibility for the foreseeable future.
The Cavs don't have the type of cap space that teams like the Bulls, Knicks and Nets -- among others -- can offer. Yes, the Cavs can sign James for more money and/or years, but they can't bring in another All-Star for him to play alongside unless the organization pulls off a miracle trade. They're stuck in a rut of playoff mediocrity and nobody in Cleveland can figure out exactly how to get out of it. A championship seems like the least of their worries, especially considering they don't even have a coach at the moment.
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Despite these circumstances, and uncertainties in places like New York, New Jersey, Miami and Los Angeles, there still seems to be a prevailing thought in some circles that James wouldn't want to come to Chicago because he knows he couldn't compete with the legacy Jordan created with the Bulls.
The events of the past few days, namely the proposed deal which would sendKirk Hinrichand his contract to the Wizards, thus freeing up even more cap space for the Bulls, make that assertion even more laughable than it seemed before. Putting aside the fact that James loved the Bulls growing up and absolutely idolized Jordan as a kid, Chicago gives James the best chance to win right now -- and over the last two months he’s said that’s all he really cares about.
People from other cities recruiting LeBron make it seem as if he'll never be able to live up to Jordan. My response to those folks is this:
Who will?
Michael Jordan was the greatest basketball player of all time. James will be compared to Jordan no matter where he goes for the rest of his career, just likeKobe Bryantis right now and every other great player that came before him.
People make it seem as if a basketball player can't possibly function and be successful in Chicago while living under the constant glare of Jordan's transcendent career. That's funny considering last I checkedDerrick Rosewas doing just fine in Chicago and has quickly become of the most popular players in the league.Joakim Noahgot off to a rough start in the Windy City but now he's beloved and has become one of the most popular athletes in town.
Heck, while it may not have the fervor that it did last year, the love is still ever-present for Jay Cutler and he was downright bad at times for the Bears. The city loves a winner and will treat the athletes that do so accordingly. The Blackhawks still can't take a step in town without being mobbed after winning the Stanley Cup, and that was several weeks ago.
That's the crazy part about all this talk. If James wins, nothing else will matter. Bryant found that out in Los Angeles after winning his NBA crowns. People still compare him toMagic Johnsonand wonder who is the "Greatest Laker of all-time." Do you think he cares? He has five rings and is treated like royalty in Los Angeles.
Same goes forKevin Garnett. He won a ring for the Celtics in 2008 and almost delivered another this season. He is worshipped in Boston and is credited, alongsidePaul PierceandRay Allen, as returning the Celtics to prominence. No, he doesn't have as many rings as Bill Russell or Larry Bird, but he cemented himself in Celtics lore with the one he already earned.
The story would undoubtedly be a little sweeter for James if he won a title in Cleveland because of the proximity to his hometown, but his legacy isn't going to be defined so much by where he won the title, as it will be by whether or not he won one at all and how many he racked up.
The truth is that on paper the Bulls are the team that give him the best chance to win a title right now and in the future. Bulls GM Gar Forman even thinks that the Jordan shadow will help the Bulls recruitment of James in the long run.
"I think one of the things that makes the Bulls such a storied franchise is Michael andScottie [Pippen]and the success that they had, and in my opinion, that bodes well for the Chicago Bulls because it's been done here before," he said Friday on "Mike & Mike In The Morning" on ESPN Radio. "We won multiple championships. We've had terrific players and a terrific brand that's known worldwide."
Sure, the comparisons surrounding James and Jordan will be a little greater if he comes to Chicago, but in the end James is going to be judged the same way every other great player in the league is -- by championships.
Right now he has none.
If he ever wants to get into the conversation as being one of the greatest players of all time, that has to change, and change quickly.
And if that means signing with the Bulls and playing for the team that Jordan made famous, so be it.
There's always room for another statue on the other side of the United Center.
And was Lebron denied the right to by shares in MSG because he wasn't a FA yet or because it works around the salary cap? Someone in here said we should over FA stock options, but wouldn't what happend with Lebron negate that?
Via Yahoo:
“…Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban will pursue a sign-and-trade to lure Atlanta Hawks free agent Joe Johnson(notes), league sources told Yahoo! Sports.
The Mavericks are unlikely to engage the Cleveland Cavaliers into a sign-and-trade for LeBron James(notes), but Johnson has emerged as a realistic target for the Mavericks. Johnson, is more likely to embrace a sign-and-trade to the contending Mavs than sign a free-agent contract with New York or Chicago, sources said.
“New York is far from his first option,
Originally Posted by copped
Yeah, Nick Friedell is a chicago writer who will try to say anything to get lebron in chicago, but no question when he arrives, they will not immortalize lebron just like jordan.
Jordan will always be seen as the one and lebron will just be seen as a second great player who just brought us a few championships. The love chicago fans have for jordan cannot surpass....It just wont...even if he wins 7-8 the thing will be 'jordan played against better players'
there will always be some !%*@...but if he does it elsewhere lets say NY, Nets, etc. they wont even give a !%*@ about jordan..best thing about NY is many knicks fan hated jordan...and if lebron wins...everyone will say lebron>jordan
i just wish knicks had a complete roster to offer lebron, then this wouldn't even be a freaking question.
Originally Posted by Proshares
My dude Tommy in the PYP looking like a [color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]shroomed[/color] up 10 year old
i agreeOriginally Posted by DubA169
cake the bulls are NOT the damn lakers and celtics.
there are TWO elite, historic teams in the NBA. The celtics and lakers. Then there is everyone else. the bulls had one great decade. the celtics and lakers had multiple decades. dozens and dozens of all stars. it's nowhere near the same thing
Originally Posted by tommykairaa
Originally Posted by Proshares
My dude Tommy in the PYP looking like a shroomed up 10 year old
i got called a 11 year old like 30 times last week. now i'm 10
Originally Posted by DubA169
cake the bulls are NOT the damn lakers and celtics.
there are TWO elite, historic teams in the NBA. The celtics and lakers. Then there is everyone else. the bulls had one great decade. the celtics and lakers had multiple decades. dozens and dozens of all stars. it's nowhere near the same thing. bulls are more like the spurs and pistons. the pistons have more history then the bulls though.
that's the truth. no matter how much boussard throws the bulls in the same sentance as the lakers and celtics.
u dig?