ADOS

[largofool]

Sorry but you can not be serious.

You are not asking for support. You want complete obedience to the point of being ready to sacrifice my constitutional rights and agency over my life. Luckily it seems like the founders of the movement don't believe this ****. Which is a positive for them.

Btw, are you are ready to kick your wife out the country too?

dead serious. you want me to give my vote to the democrats, sacrificing agency over my life, cause it directly benefits you. not a chance sir. and my wife wouldn't be deported she's a natural born citizen.

 

[largofool]

My point in saying this is that a candidate could come out with any form of "tangible" right now as opposed to just paying lip service to the issue and there would be some problem with it.

Sidenote: Julian Castro has actually promised to establish a task force for reparations but I don't see it being discussed anywhere

you missed the post in this thread?

 

[RustyShackleford]

Because immigrants are not racially profiled?

Because they aren't passed over for jobs/job promotions/salary increases commensurate with their job performance?

Because they are not victims of police brutality?

Because they are not victims of hate crimes?

Do we really need to post examples of immigrant victims of each of the instances above?

If all they wanted was money and didn't care about stability, respect, or safety, they would have stayed and engaged in the multiple illicit trades or the corruption that flourish in many of the places they come from.

I know a ton of people from my island that feel completely relaxed about coming to America because they remember what happened to Botham Jean.

You know, when that cop knocked on his door late at night, was prepares to execute him, but when he said he was an immigrant just making money on the back of work done by African Americans, she put down that gun, wished him well, and went about her night.

Whenever my grandma back in the island ask me if there are a lot of cops in my neighborhood, I know that is not fear I hear in her voice, it is just a mild case of laryngitis.

 

[RustyShackleford]

dead serious. you want me to give my vote to the democrats, sacrificing agency over my life, cause it directly benefits you. not a chance sir. and my wife wouldn't be deported she's a natural born citizen.

How does it benefit me?

And umm, maybe you should go look up Trump's words on the 14th amendment before you get confident that she will be safe.

 

[deuce king]

you used to be on papalace and sggdc right? where your parents from? its been 200 years since we've been promised 40 acres and a mule. are you suggesting we should wait longer for these promised tangibles. explain the ins and outs and the process behind it please.

I’m not sure what you mean with your first sentence. When you wrote PA Palace you had me thinking about that kiosk I used to get Go-Go tapes from in PG Plaza.

 

[Mark Antony]

Tariq a clown

Dude funny as hell sometimes though

"I come in peace" But why is this dude looked to? has he ever done anything not for his own benefit or profit? Sure he can educate or says some truth, but what is he really doing to move the needle forward? Serious question, aware me of the information gap i'm missing with Tariq.

 

[tay1]

"I come in peace" But why is this dude looked to? has he ever done anything not for his own benefit or profit? Sure he can educate or says some truth, but what is he really doing to move the needle forward? Serious question, aware me of the information gap i'm missing with Tariq.

Educating is moving the needle forward when nobody else is doing it. He keeps his foot on the neck of WS. Also he's funny with it.

 

[RustyShackleford]

-Other people are doing it too. Others at a much higher level than Tariq.

-He is not very good at educating since he mixes in a ton of hot takes, conspiracy theories, and misinformation

-No white supremacist is scare of dude. He debated on his show, he did a terrible job. He debate with that Schlutz guy was not a good look either. Hell Richard Spencer himself laughs at Tariq.

He is funny though

 

[Mark Antony]

Educating is moving the needle forward when nobody else is doing it. He keeps his foot on the neck of WS. Also he's funny with it.

Can't argue that. Pick the spots I guess.

 

[tay1]

-Other people are doing it too. Others at a much higher level than Tariq

-He is not very good at educating since he mixes in a ton of hot takes, conspiracy theories, and misinformation

-No white supremacist is scare of dude. He debated on his show, he did a terrible job. He debate with that Schlutz guy was not a good look either. Hell Richard Spencer himself laughs at Tariq.

Don't care about others. Was talking about him. I shouldn't have said while nobody else is doing it. Meant to frame it in saying that he's doing something that everybody isn't doing. Making himself a target while doing so.

Nobody is right all the time. Also hidden colors and 1804 is what I was referring to

Don't care who is scared of him. Wasn't my point. Outing and exposing them to people who otherwise aren't paying attention was the point

 

[KingdomFlatbush]

Mans debated Tucker Carlson of all people and got sonned

 

[Mark Antony]

Mans debated Tucker Carlson of all people and got sonned

Son gotta learn breath control and debate tactics.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Don't care about others. Was talking about him

Filter out what's wrong

Don't care who is scared of him. Wasn't my point

It is cool you don't care about the others, but that does not mean they don't exist. You said he the only one doing it, which is mostly not the case

Someone could filter out the nonsense. Or just go the places that give you the truth without the nonsense. People should get info from a broad range of sources but if part of that info is to know when Tariq is BSing, then his contribution then becomes entertainment, not educational

Sure he points out the BS of white supremacist, which is good. But I'm saying that when he debates them, he does so poorly that he looks like the uninformed reactionary not them. That is a bad look if he is to be regarded as an intellectual

It is what it is though. I know folk will still rock with dude regardless

Edit: Sorry I didn't see your edits before making this. I mean compared to others in the so called conscious community
I see his appeal. But once you bring in academics and other intellectuals then case for him becomes weaker.

I was a fan of his at one point but the more i grew and learned the more I got turned off by some of his antics.

 

[gry60]

where your peoples from

Address my points.

Explain how your position will work after Trump goes for a 2nd term. My origins have no bearings on the discussion at hand.

 

[KingdomFlatbush]

Here's the video in case anyone hasn't seen it.

Any other ADOS individual like Ta Nehisi Coates, Marc Lamont Hill, Yvette Carnell, hell even that fraud Dr. Umar would have held up better IMO.

Y'all need to be careful who yall latch on to.

 

[Mark Antony]

Address my points.

Explain how your position will work after Trump goes for a 2nd term. My origins have no bearings on the discussion at hand.

And here's where the "russian bot" or foreign influence talk comes in. Dem or Rep it doesn't matter, but somehow part of the focus is being vocal on how Dems take the support for granted, but they don't care about Reps who decidedly create policies to counter what you're trying to achieve and essentially give them a pass. Do folks see how that would look influenced?

Essentially though i'm 100% on board with the idea of ADOS/reparations and getting the American gov't to pay what is promised and owed to those families, but like everything else, i'm just begging people to be logical and support a proper plan of action, don't just yell in circles online. Be above that social media circle jerk.

 

[deuce king]

you used to be on papalace and sggdc right? where your parents from? its been 200 years since we've been promised 40 acres and a mule. are you suggesting we should wait longer for these promised tangibles. explain the ins and outs and the process behind it please.

My Dad is from DC, and my mother is from North Carolina. What I’m suggesting is for folks to have a better understanding of what WE want and more importantly how WE can get it. Has an exact financial amount been agreed upon on how much each black person is getting? When folks say we need land where exactly is all this federal land that black families are getting and will the land be tax free?

 

[RustyShackleford]

Nah, Umar would have folded. He can't debate for **** and gets baited easier than Tariq.

Tariq got his faults, but Umar on another level with the buffoonery.

 

[largofool]

Address my points.

Explain how your position will work after Trump goes for a 2nd term. My origins have no bearings on the discussion at hand.

you demand me to address your point but can't even state where you're from, which offers perspective on your poverties. good luck during trumps second term

 

[gry60]

you demand me to address your point but can't even state where you're from, which offers perspective on your poverties. good luck during trumps second term

You demand me to state where I'm from when you can't even defend your position. Good luck indeed.

 

[KingdomFlatbush]

Is this y'all's king?

 

[hand2handking]

 

[hand2handking]

Reparations for Slavery in the United States?

http://maristpoll.marist.edu/510-re...-united-states/#sthash.8yOYriQS.tKfbHf9z.dpbs

Although nearly seven in ten Americans oppose paying reparations to African Americans who are descendants of slaves for the harm and racial discrimination caused by slavery, opinion divides along racial lines according to an Exclusive Point Taken-Marist Poll, commissioned by WGBH Boston for its new late-night, multi-platform PBS debate seriesPoint Taken. While white Americans overwhelmingly oppose restitution, a majority of African Americans favor redress. Latino Americans divide.



Nearly six in ten Americans assert the current wealth of the United States is not significantly tied to work done in the past by slaves, although most consider the history of slavery and other forms of racial discrimination to be at least a minor factor in the gap in wealth between white and black Americans. Here too, opinions differ based on racial background.



The national survey was conducted by The Marist Poll in advance of this week’s Point Taken episode, airing Tuesday, May 10th at 11pmET (check local listings) and streaming onpbs.org/pointtaken. The series is hosted by Carlos Watson, Emmy Award winning journalist and OZY Media co-founder and CEO.

68% of residents nationally do not think the United States should pay reparations to descendants of slaves, and a similar proportion of American adults, 72%, argue that the United States should not compensate African Americans, in general, for the harm caused by slavery and other forms of racial discrimination.

White Americans, 81%, are much more likely than African Americans, 35%, and Latinos, 47%, to oppose giving monetary compensation to descendants of slaves. Similarly, 85% of white residents, but, only 32% of African-American adults are against giving reparations to all African-American citizens. Of note, Latinos divide about whether or not reparations should be paid to the descendants of slaves. However, a majority of Latinos, 54%, do not support paying reparations to all African Americans for the harm caused by slavery.

Differences based on generation are also present. Millennials are more likely than older generations to favor paying reparations to, both, the descendants of slaves and the larger African-American community. However, 49% of millennials oppose providing compensation to the descendants of slaves, and a majority, 56%, is against paying reparations to African Americans, in general.

Greater support for reparations exists when the question spotlights private companies who admitted and apologized for profiting from American slavery. Still, 58% of Americans say these companies should not pay money to descendants of slaves, and 65% oppose paying reparations to the larger African American population for the harm and racism stemming from slavery.

Again, differences based on race and generation exist. African Americans, 75%, are more likely than whites, 25%, and Latinos, 54%, to support reparations to the descendants of slaves paid by companies who admit to profiting from slavery. Millennials, 55% are more likely than older Americans to favor these private companies paying reparations.

When it comes to these private companies giving monetary compensation to the overall African-American community, 64% of African Americans and 53% of Latinos, compared with 18% of whites, favor such payments. While a majority of millennials, 51%, oppose such action, they are more likely than their older counterparts to support this proposal.

“These results, while not surprising, are indeed striking in the persistent racial divide in attitudes about reparations. Tonight, Point Taken delves into this sensitive and provocative subject,”says Denise DiIanni, series creator and Senior Executive-in-Charge.

59% of Americans say the current wealth of the United States is not significantly tied to work done in the past by slaves. But, 71% of residents think the history of slavery and other forms of racial discrimination is at least a minor factor in the wealth disparity between white and black Americans. Included here are 40% of residents who believe this is a major factor in the wealth gap.

African Americans, 66%, are more likely than whites, 21%, and Latinos, 44%, to say the wealth of the United States is significantly tied to work done by slaves. Generationally, millennials, 44%, are more likely than older generations to report the current wealth of the United States is significantly tied to work done by slaves. 46% say there is not a significant link.

Spanning all demographic groups, at least a majority thinks the history of slavery and other forms of racial discrimination in the United States is at least a minor factor in the gap of wealth between white and black Americans. However, there are some notable distinctions. 90% of African Americans, compared with 81% of Latinos and 66% of whites, have this view. In fact, 73% of African Americans consider slavery and discrimination to be a major factor in that disparity. Millennials, 56%, are also more likely than other generations to perceive this to be a major factor.

Many Americans, 69%, including half of African Americans, think slavery and racial discrimination is part of the history of the United States, but it is time to move beyond it. 27% believe slavery and racial discrimination is a wrong that still needs to be made right by the U.S. government. Whites, 76%, are more likely than Latinos, 56%, and African Americans, 50%, to think the nation should move beyond this concern. Of note, 49% of African Americans report this is a wrong that still needs to be corrected. Millennials, 57%, are the least likely of the generations to believe it’s time to put the issue of slavery behind the nation and are the most likely to report that it is still a wrong that needs to be made right by the U.S. government, 40%.

This survey of 1,221 adults was conducted April 27th and April 28th and May 2nd through May 4th, 2016 by The Marist Poll sponsored and funded in partnership with WGBH’s Point Taken. Adults 18 years of age and older residing in the contiguous United States were contacted on landline or mobile numbers and interviewed in English by telephone using live interviewers. Results are statistically significant within ±2.8 percentage points. The error margin increases for cross-tabulations.

 

[SupremeBeing5]

Seeing Bernie Sanders run away from the question just shows you how real the Benign Neglect policy is.

I support ADOS.

 

[blakep267]

"I come in peace" But why is this dude looked to? has he ever done anything not for his own benefit or profit? Sure he can educate or says some truth, but what is he really doing to move the needle forward? Serious question, aware me of the information gap i'm missing with Tariq.

Because he’s one of the few people spouting empowerment who has no problem being openly homophobic and people that feel the same way latch onto him amongst other things

Also he’s loud and obnoxious and people flock to that *cough* Trump*cough*