Air Jordan XI Retro - White/Concord/Black - CONFIRMED - Holiday 2011

[sneak king]

^I DO!!!! My boy buys all the Retro's for his daughter and I saw the CH XI GS and they look SICK!!!! So much closer to the original shape. It's kind of messed up actually.

 

[sneak king]

^I DO!!!! My boy buys all the Retro's for his daughter and I saw the CG XI GS and they look SICK!!!! So much closer to the original shape. It's kind of messed up actually.

 

[eddo1005]

Originally Posted by solesearch22

Originally Posted by eddo1005

Originally Posted by solesearch22

finally talked to AR about this. He said that the shoes they had up to begin with were very early production models. But the shoes him and SDS are shipping out are the same shoes and are the same shoes that any other early release site will be shipping too. He said there is absolutely no difference and ALL of these shoes are coming from NIKE directly. He said his website says 100% authentic and if they weren't authentic he'd be selling shoes for no reason because he would gladly refund the money for a fake shoe.

Like I said from the beginning, I don't think these are fake, I just think these people have good connections and know people in high places (or low places lol), if anything I think that they jumped on advertising a little bit early. i.e got pics from their supplier first and threw them on their site, I am pretty sure they go into production this early for a reason, they produced, sent to Nike, Nike said change this change that, so now they're producing again. AR and SDS are not gonna send out thousands of shoes that Nike didn't approve. If they're fake then they're fake and I got, got, oh well, not a big deal, still cop on RD from FL too, but all of this he said she said talk with no proof either way is too much, everybody is reachin right now.

Just sit back and wait til all the shoes come in...and then start comparing this and that, wait til the proof is in your hands before you try to prove anything. But on another note, still waiting for my tracking to activate

heh, good try.   But no one is going to take this info straight from AR seriously, he's the person selling them after all. 

Anyway, we'll see what happens.

good try? I wasn't trying to do anything, I was just relaying what he has told me. I have been 50/50 with this thing the whole way, I am not saying anything is fake or real before I see it myself.

As for the pic with all of the see through toes, that throws me off too, but he is claiming that his shoes are the same ones SDS has and the same ones anyone selling these early has. So, I will just wait and see

I know what you're doing.  I am just simply pointing out the fact that everyone in here has already made up their mind one way or another.  Posting the info you did really just leaves us to right where we are.  Wait and see.  I think once pictures start surfacing, we can collectively decide whats real and whats fake.

 

[solesearch22]

ZYR12 if you aren't comfortable "spilling the beans", which I understand, you run a legit business and don't need to disclose vendors/suppliers, why don't you just put it all into perspective and just say "supplier x, supplier y, etc." Because obviously you have some info on how AR and SDS got these shoes, who they're from, and why they're fake.

A simple break down of the situation, what happened, how it happened, etc would clear everything up and this would have never got to 300pgs lol

 

[eddo1005]

Originally Posted by scoop99

Originally Posted by eddo1005

Originally Posted by solesearch22

finally talked to AR about this. He said that the shoes they had up to begin with were very early production models. But the shoes him and SDS are shipping out are the same shoes and are the same shoes that any other early release site will be shipping too. He said there is absolutely no difference and ALL of these shoes are coming from NIKE directly. He said his website says 100% authentic and if they weren't authentic he'd be selling shoes for no reason because he would gladly refund the money for a fake shoe.

Like I said from the beginning, I don't think these are fake, I just think these people have good connections and know people in high places (or low places lol), if anything I think that they jumped on advertising a little bit early. i.e got pics from their supplier first and threw them on their site, I am pretty sure they go into production this early for a reason, they produced, sent to Nike, Nike said change this change that, so now they're producing again. AR and SDS are not gonna send out thousands of shoes that Nike didn't approve. If they're fake then they're fake and I got, got, oh well, not a big deal, still cop on RD from FL too, but all of this he said she said talk with no proof either way is too much, everybody is reachin right now.

Just sit back and wait til all the shoes come in...and then start comparing this and that, wait til the proof is in your hands before you try to prove anything. But on another note, still waiting for my tracking to activate

heh, good try.   But no one is going to take this info straight from AR seriously, he's the person selling them after all. 

Anyway, we'll see what happens.

I think that the shoes were produced from a Nike factory, but I think that they were approved/disapproved by Nike. If Air Randy or Jay are selling fakes, it is not done intentionally. They probably have the real deal. But don't be suprised if the shoe look like B-grades. At the same time retail stores have sold shoes that have flaws, but still considered A-grade.Now, I want to go back to the topic of the translucent vs. Opaque soles at the toe cap. Last year at the end of November, I purchased a pair of Cool Greys from a legit ebay seller. The toe cap is translucent like the previous models. Everything else looks legit. The only reason that I brought them a month earlier due to a final for one of my classes for my Masters degree. At the end it was worth it, because I received an "A" in the class. So I am not certain if my shoe is 100% legit, B-grade, or even fake. What's your assessment on this. Thanks!!!

Well, nooblee will tell you its fake.  The whole translucent vs opaque, as nooblee stated, started with CG XIs.

 

[dtb00201]

Point blank, if you early release sites want to keep the business from places like NT and ISS, you need to be completely open and get EVERYTHING out in the air.

 

[startin2stack]

I preordered two pairs with IamKingKickz I really regret it from eveything I've been hearing about them and their business tactics. I want a full refund from them but they constantly ignore me tweets messages etc. I would not recommend doing any business with thie "company" they ahve screwed over many people on preorders of the Ray Allens. Anyone else deal with Iamkingkickz for this release.

This will be the last time I order from them

 

[og2345]

Originally Posted by Freeze

Originally Posted by dakine

Originally Posted by OG2345


I'm order #490....
anybody know when I should be receiving tracking info??? Been waiting for a long minute now, I ordered since Aug 2nd...

Got an email from SDS says I should have my tracking number by today. Order #495

did you guys get your tracking yet? I ended up getting mine last night in an email.  it was a summary of my whole order and the #.  cords and jams are supposedly on their way.  # doesnt work yet, which is to be expected.

I only got an email from Jay saying the same that his shipping specialist will email tracking number later today, I too hope so I receive it too...have to be really patient. But damn everyone is receiving theirs already.

 

[scoop0625]

Originally Posted by eddo1005

Originally Posted by scoop99

Originally Posted by eddo1005


heh, good try.   But no one is going to take this info straight from AR seriously, he's the person selling them after all. 

Anyway, we'll see what happens.

I think that the shoes were produced from a Nike factory, but I think that they were approved/disapproved by Nike. If Air Randy or Jay are selling fakes, it is not done intentionally. They probably have the real deal. But don't be suprised if the shoe look like B-grades. At the same time retail stores have sold shoes that have flaws, but still considered A-grade.Now, I want to go back to the topic of the translucent vs. Opaque soles at the toe cap. Last year at the end of November, I purchased a pair of Cool Greys from a legit ebay seller. The toe cap is translucent like the previous models. Everything else looks legit. The only reason that I brought them a month earlier due to a final for one of my classes for my Masters degree. At the end it was worth it, because I received an "A" in the class. So I am not certain if my shoe is 100% legit, B-grade, or even fake. What's your assessment on this. Thanks!!!

Well, nooblee will tell you its fake.  The whole translucent vs opaque, as nooblee stated, started with CG XIs.

Thanks. I know that nooblee will say that they are fake. But he has provided absolutely no proof that they are fake. Until he does, it claims cannot be a fact. I still believe that this is all speculation. I think that the reason that some would be translucent is due to the glue that was used at the toe cap. But that is my conclusion due to types of glue being used at the toe cap.

 

[zyr12]

Originally Posted by solesearch22

ZYR12 if you aren't comfortable "spilling the beans", which I understand, you run a legit business and don't need to disclose vendors/suppliers, why don't you just put it all into perspective and just say "supplier x, supplier y, etc." Because obviously you have some info on how AR and SDS got these shoes, who they're from, and why they're fake.

A simple break down of the situation, what happened, how it happened, etc would clear everything up and this would have never got to 300pgs lol

Supplier X = fake Concords. Supplier ?? = Nike Factories.
Supplier X makes his shoes outside of the factory and supplied certain sites with them, and yes, they can remake the shoes, it's not that hard.

Supplier ??? can only pull out so many shoes off the line this early, I'm talking about 20-30 pairs a day max the 1st week. Supplier ?? now is giving out 0 pairs, because there's a problem with the line at the moment.

You do the math.

I'm not the expert on the whole toecap thing, but it makes sense, I mean if all the pairs are coming out of the same factory, why are there 2 versions, this is Nike, not your local shoe shop that makes 20 shoes a day. 

 

[eddo1005]

Originally Posted by zyr12

Originally Posted by solesearch22

ZYR12 if you aren't comfortable "spilling the beans", which I understand, you run a legit business and don't need to disclose vendors/suppliers, why don't you just put it all into perspective and just say "supplier x, supplier y, etc." Because obviously you have some info on how AR and SDS got these shoes, who they're from, and why they're fake.

A simple break down of the situation, what happened, how it happened, etc would clear everything up and this would have never got to 300pgs lol

Supplier X = fake Concords. Supplier ?? = Nike Factories.
Supplier X makes his shoes outside of the factory and supplied certain sites with them, and yes, they can remake the shoes, it's not that hard.

Supplier ??? can only pull out so many shoes off the line this early, I'm talking about 20-30 pairs a day max the 1st week. Supplier ?? now is giving out 0 pairs, because there's a problem with the line at the moment.

You do the math.

I'm not the expert on the whole toecap thing, but it makes sense, I mean if all the pairs are coming out of the same factory, why are there 2 versions, this is Nike, not your local shoe shop that makes 20 shoes a day. 

....So you "personally" dont know which toecap represents the legit shoes.  You are simply going by what nooblee posted, because you trust him.  That a fair statement?

 

[broomall4life]

i still havent received my tracking from sds, but i'm in the 600's so i guess i'll be waiting a few more days.

 

[solesearch22]

Originally Posted by zyr12

Originally Posted by solesearch22

ZYR12 if you aren't comfortable "spilling the beans", which I understand, you run a legit business and don't need to disclose vendors/suppliers, why don't you just put it all into perspective and just say "supplier x, supplier y, etc." Because obviously you have some info on how AR and SDS got these shoes, who they're from, and why they're fake.

A simple break down of the situation, what happened, how it happened, etc would clear everything up and this would have never got to 300pgs lol

Supplier X = fake Concords. Supplier ?? = Nike Factories.
Supplier X makes his shoes outside of the factory and supplied certain sites with them, and yes, they can remake the shoes, it's not that hard.

Supplier ??? can only pull out so many shoes off the line this early, I'm talking about 20-30 pairs a day max the 1st week. Supplier ?? now is giving out 0 pairs, because there's a problem with the line at the moment.

You do the math.

I'm not the expert on the whole toecap thing, but it makes sense, I mean if all the pairs are coming out of the same factory, why are there 2 versions, this is Nike, not your local shoe shop that makes 20 shoes a day. 

Gotcha, clears it up a little, I am assuming that's as much as you can say. And the 20-30 pairs a day makes sense. Do you know this all to be fact? That SDS and AR bought shoes that were produced outside of the Nike factory?

Does that mean that supplier X works for a Nike factory, but produced these outside so that he could supply these sites with the qty they've received? AKA supplier X making shoes outside of the nike factory so that he can make some extra cash, fake shoes but claiming they come from Nike since he is Nike employed? That, to me, would explain all of this

But, Lee kept saying SDS and AR were "doctoring" or "re-making" these shoes...so, if they were/are fake, and they've doctored them to have the milky toecaps, then how will we be able to tell which ones came from the Nike factories and are legit and which ones are fake? You keep saying we will be able to tell and all of this will be clear when the shoes hit the states. But how will all of it be clear if they've all been doctored and nobody can tell the difference?

 

[zyr12]

Originally Posted by eddo1005

Originally Posted by zyr12

Originally Posted by solesearch22

ZYR12 if you aren't comfortable "spilling the beans", which I understand, you run a legit business and don't need to disclose vendors/suppliers, why don't you just put it all into perspective and just say "supplier x, supplier y, etc." Because obviously you have some info on how AR and SDS got these shoes, who they're from, and why they're fake.

A simple break down of the situation, what happened, how it happened, etc would clear everything up and this would have never got to 300pgs lol

Supplier X = fake Concords. Supplier ?? = Nike Factories.
Supplier X makes his shoes outside of the factory and supplied certain sites with them, and yes, they can remake the shoes, it's not that hard.

Supplier ??? can only pull out so many shoes off the line this early, I'm talking about 20-30 pairs a day max the 1st week. Supplier ?? now is giving out 0 pairs, because there's a problem with the line at the moment.

You do the math.

I'm not the expert on the whole toecap thing, but it makes sense, I mean if all the pairs are coming out of the same factory, why are there 2 versions, this is Nike, not your local shoe shop that makes 20 shoes a day. 

....So you "personally" dont know which toecap represents the legit shoes.  You are simply going by what nooblee posted, because you trust him.  That a fair statement?

Everything will be clear once the shoes get to the States 

 

[eddo1005]

Originally Posted by solesearch22

Originally Posted by zyr12

Originally Posted by solesearch22

ZYR12 if you aren't comfortable "spilling the beans", which I understand, you run a legit business and don't need to disclose vendors/suppliers, why don't you just put it all into perspective and just say "supplier x, supplier y, etc." Because obviously you have some info on how AR and SDS got these shoes, who they're from, and why they're fake.

A simple break down of the situation, what happened, how it happened, etc would clear everything up and this would have never got to 300pgs lol

Supplier X = fake Concords. Supplier ?? = Nike Factories.
Supplier X makes his shoes outside of the factory and supplied certain sites with them, and yes, they can remake the shoes, it's not that hard.

Supplier ??? can only pull out so many shoes off the line this early, I'm talking about 20-30 pairs a day max the 1st week. Supplier ?? now is giving out 0 pairs, because there's a problem with the line at the moment.

You do the math.

I'm not the expert on the whole toecap thing, but it makes sense, I mean if all the pairs are coming out of the same factory, why are there 2 versions, this is Nike, not your local shoe shop that makes 20 shoes a day. 

Gotcha, clears it up a little, I am assuming that's as much as you can say. And the 20-30 pairs a day makes sense. Do you know this all to be fact? That SDS and AR bought shoes that were produced outside of the Nike factory?

Does that mean that supplier X works for a Nike factory, but produced these outside so that he could supply these sites with the qty they've received? AKA supplier X making shoes outside of the nike factory so that he can make some extra cash, fake shoes but claiming they come from Nike since he is Nike employed? That, to me, would explain all of this

Maybe a factory that used to be contracted by Nike, but for one reason or another, no longer contracted?

 

[Bert.]

Originally Posted by scoop99

Originally Posted by eddo1005

Originally Posted by scoop99



I think that the shoes were produced from a Nike factory, but I think that they were approved/disapproved by Nike. If Air Randy or Jay are selling fakes, it is not done intentionally. They probably have the real deal. But don't be suprised if the shoe look like B-grades. At the same time retail stores have sold shoes that have flaws, but still considered A-grade.Now, I want to go back to the topic of the translucent vs. Opaque soles at the toe cap. Last year at the end of November, I purchased a pair of Cool Greys from a legit ebay seller. The toe cap is translucent like the previous models. Everything else looks legit. The only reason that I brought them a month earlier due to a final for one of my classes for my Masters degree. At the end it was worth it, because I received an "A" in the class. So I am not certain if my shoe is 100% legit, B-grade, or even fake. What's your assessment on this. Thanks!!!

Well, nooblee will tell you its fake.  The whole translucent vs opaque, as nooblee stated, started with CG XIs.

Thanks. I know that nooblee will say that they are fake. But he has provided absolutely no proof that they are fake. Until he does, it claims cannot be a fact. I still believe that this is all speculation.

EXACTLY

people take some random dudes words for fact, its sad. sure we should think about it but its not 100% true. no one even has the shoes yet. and only "proof" was something obvious about the toe caps thats it. i have yet to see anything else.

$50 bucks says the Concords everyone will receive next week will be 100% legit. 1 person can claim that from me.

 

[zyr12]

Lee told me something else on the shoes that's different from the real ones and they (fake supplier) still don't know what it is so they can't do much about it. 

Zyzz, I will take that bet any day, let's get a NT agreement going, easy money.

 

[leocabrera]

^^ so are you saying some pairs will be real and some fake??

 

[spiderman2315]

Holy crap...last page I read was 238...that was like 2 days ago. "closes thread, logs out"

 

[solesearch22]

Originally Posted by zyr12

Lee told me something else on the shoes that's different from the real ones and they (fake supplier) still don't know what it is so they can't do much about it. 

Zyzz, I will take that bet any day, let's get a NT agreement going, easy money.

I just don't get why you are holding back, if these shoes are being shipped and everything why don't you just tell us so we know what to look for? I will cancel my 15 pair order and send it your way if you can guarantee me my shoes from AR are going to be fakes. You run a business, and from one business man to another, you don't slander other companies for what "may or may not" be, but you do put yourself ahead by showing that YOUR product is better than the next guys. With that being said, wouldn't you rather EARN other people's money on these shoes than sit around and hold back info and watch people get scammed by competitors?

  

 

[jordan23 4xl]

Looks like DELZ got a fake pair also...

 

[coldcity]

Originally Posted by zyr12

Lee told me something else on the shoes that's different from the real ones and they (fake supplier) still don't know what it is so they can't do much about it. 

Zyzz, I will take that bet any day, let's get a NT agreement going, easy money.

every pg is like damn! next pg damn!! next pg damb!!!!!!

 

[Bert.]

Originally Posted by zyr12

Lee told me something else on the shoes that's different from the real ones and they (fake supplier) still don't know what it is so they can't do much about it. 

Zyzz, I will take that bet any day, let's get a NT agreement going, easy money.

sure no need for agreement, its right here and im a man of my word. $50 paypal bruh


but your trying to drop knowledge yet you have some early release shoes, same as these sites. your saying yours are real and theirs are fake?

 

[zyr12]

Originally Posted by solesearch22

Originally Posted by zyr12

Lee told me something else on the shoes that's different from the real ones and they (fake supplier) still don't know what it is so they can't do much about it. 

Zyzz, I will take that bet any day, let's get a NT agreement going, easy money.

I just don't get why you are holding back, if these shoes are being shipped and everything why don't you just tell us so we know what to look for? I will cancel my 15 pair order and send it your way if you can guarantee me my shoes from AR are going to be fakes. You run a business, and from one business man to another, you don't slander other companies for what "may or may not" be, but you do put yourself ahead by showing that YOUR product is better than the next guys. With that being said, wouldn't you rather EARN other people's money on these shoes than sit around and hold back info and watch people get scammed by competitors?

  

I have already stated that I'm in the same situation as Marquee, I'm not gonna bash my competitors because I know 90% of their other shoes are real, ie. Last Shots and Zoom Rookie.
I choose my words carefully because really, this business circle is quite small.

and how I show MY product is better than the next guys? I don't even have the Concords in yet. 

 

Hence there's a chance of you to attack my credibility, sure, go ahead. There's reasons and time tables for early releases. 

We get shoes early, but not TOO early.

And in case you still can't infer a lot of the facts from a lot of actual "whistle-blowers" that posted in this thread, you are better off listening to these B-grade AKA Variants AKA oh-they-are-made-by-Nike theories.

 

[Bert.]

90% of their shoes are real, ok now we are getting somewhere. werent idiots in here saying all their shoes are fake? SMH

i know what your saying with the Concords and im curious too but i think they are legit but hey we will all see next week when people receive them plus maybe we will get more info,