Air Jordan XI Retro - White/Concord/Black - CONFIRMED - Holiday 2011

Originally Posted by proto onslaught

did anyone's order shipped yet from SDS?


Some people in this thread have said they got their tracking numbers from SDS.  I haven't yet (order in the mid 500's). 
 
Originally Posted by zyr12



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WOW LOL how %$#$!+! shady is that??? Open a police report?!??!
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on another note sent SDS a email for each of the last 2 days asking for a refund and no response. Just opened dispute on paypal.
 
Same here jecca650! I emailed him and no response, im going to open a claim...after much thought I'd rather deal with all the BS on RD and have piece of mind that my Cords are legit than deal with SDS...I should have known, things that are too good to be true usually are...
 
So is slam dunk space legit?
I got an email from them with this pic and Im tempted to buy. 

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Originally Posted by kingk777



KOBEFTW wrote:

Originally Posted by LadyExpensive

The shoe game is changing before our eyes..

This thread is like when we found out that a lot of rare Air Jordan Sample/PE's were actually being constructed by Lu in China.

Shoes were going for thousands on eBay ... no-one would have known.. It was unimaginable.
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yes. the shoe game is changing. definitely for the better tho. for many years very high quality replicas have been bought and sold throughout the sneaker community.  since the shoes looked so real and no one really fought against these sites to the extent we are taking today, these sites became "legitimized" by the public. soon, these replica pairs started to infiltrate the market and proliferated throughout.  replica pairs were slanged knowingly and unknowingly on craigslist, ebay, niketalk, iss, and in some cases even  returned to places like footlocker. to add the problem is the fact that Jay's loyal customers can not admit that they are being deceived. Logic, facts, and rationale is thrown away and no matter what evidence is presented to them they will defend their sites.  

not only as a sneakerhead, but as a moral human being i believe that it is our duty to let others know about the deceit and lies being spread by these companies.  imo fake shoes will always exist no matter what.  however, it doesn't mean we say nothing and let these sites cheat people of their hard earned money. taking SlamDunkSpace off of the official 2011 legit website list is only the beginning. if you guys truly are "sneakerheads"let's try to restore some honesty back to the game.   
It's sad to watch, but people are indeed rationalizing the fact that they are purchasing illegitimate sneakers that are not actually Air Jordans. 

If the argument is that they are produced in the same factories and use the same materials, which according to all of the yea-sayers, they are (even if they are technically the same product run...whatever...), than isn't that the same argument people were using to justify variants?

Do you guys really want to compromise the brand we all know and love just so you can "cop months early" and "be THAT DUDE with the "exclusive" connect"

If you don't care and just want to "floss", than be China's guest.

I know that it doesn't make a difference in Nike's overall profit margin, but these dudes are getting multiple shipments already. Check Air Randy's facebook page with all of those people complaining about the Concord's.

Imagine if JB put out a limited release and we all (non-niketalk heads included) decided to purchase our pairs from these overseas "early-release" sites. They clearly have the supply game on lock down, since VMV STILL has the Ray-Ray XIII's. So say every single one of us cops from these guys, thus killing domestic demand for the shoe. Or even, less radically, if more and more people flocked to these sites, and it DID affect JB's product margin, we would see the further selling out of the brand to another country where, as someone stated before, international copyright law and intellectual property are regarded as much, or as little, as a pissy fly on a Cabrini-Green doormat.

Let the trend continue and build like hype tends to build in the "sneaker-game", as it is so fondly referred to by those who are "in the game" and "doin' it big", and perhaps online vendors such as VMV, Air Randy, and Slamdunkspace will replace Footlocker, Finishline, and Champs as the footwear staples of American malls. Possible, yes. Likely...I don't know. It sounds extreme, and I realize that JB would take action before letting any of this happen, but it's just some food for thought.

Watch where you spend your money. You vote with your dollar, and the mighty dollar speaks volumes...










  

They cant sell them since everyone thinks theyre fugazzi since ppl received their orders............they dropped their price on eBay too

Zyr12........I got you dude, I understand what youre trying to say without saying it.

If everyone could be  a little more patient I think we will all get our answers soon...............This shoe and the Ray's have exposed these sites

I would prefer if Zyr12, Marquee and Nooblee did keep whatever they know to themselves for a couple more weeks so that the Concords are on US soil and theres no time for the bootleggers to go back and "doctor up" the shoes to look more authentic............STAY TUNED PPL, Things are gonna get very interesting soon if what Im thinking is gonna happen.

much respect to all sides of the debate........i can appreciate both arguments but Zyzz, for real man I've never seen anybody go to the lengths you have to defend SDS.  I bought a pair of YOTR 2011's from Randy way  back and had no complaints.........I even bought another pair from US retail spot thru a link in LA and they checked out and as far as I could tell, 10000% legit.  But even still I would never go out of my way for Randy........when he delayed the first shipment I posted on his FB that everyone was overeacting and hes a good dude, but given the recent developments, Im not sure I would put my name out there and vouch for him...........and I think maybe you should think about distancing yourself as well in the event this turns out to be true.  I mean if you have no ties to them and they arent paying you, then why would you take the chance knowing all thats been said

You can be confident in them and if you dont say another thing about them we'll stilll know you support them, but to defend every negative post made about them puts you in a compromising position........Do you dude, but like I said I appreciate both sides but as you mention there is nothing to prove they are fake, theres really nothing you have said to prove theyre authentic besides you saying Jay told you so
 
Originally Posted by fijiloo

so what are the best legit websites to use on RD? other than eastbay which i hate. Im not camping planning on buying online.. any other websites other than NDC and nbastore?


hanon?
endclothing?

whats you thoughts on these sites zyr & noob?
 
WOW air randy is now said those "RAY 13s" that he has are "promo"s.. smh i feel bad for whoever ordered from him.. this concord release has changed a lot for sneakers as a whole
 
man, everyone here acting like you know what happens with factories oversea.

Fact of the matter is, Nike has no factory itself. It has outsourced its whole product line to Asia.

Since i am fluent in Chinese, i have gone ahead and did some research on Pou Chen group.

Its too bad i dont work for Deloitte here, since they audit Pou Chen group, otherwise i bet i could come up with some serious info about the contract agreements between PCG and Nike.

Pou Chen is a really low key corp, with countless factories all producing Nike, adidas, converse, reebok and a lot of other household brands you can think of.

You wont find much detail online about their operations.

At this point, Nike is pretty much a marketing/design company. They dont manufacture anything, they have completely outsourced that. For people here to come in and tell me that Nike has complete control over factories in China, thats a lot of Bull.

Fact of the matter is, with all these factories, Nike would be lucky to have control over maybe half of them.

I am sure nooblee prolly has more insights than me about the production line in China, but unless he comes out with everything, which i doubt he will, as he might put himself in jeopardy, since these factories maintain such low profile, if something big leaks out, it would surely alarm higher-ups in these factories.

 
Originally Posted by eddo1005

man, everyone here acting like you know what happens with factories oversea.

Fact of the matter is, Nike has no factory itself. It has outsourced its whole product line to Asia.

Since i am fluent in Chinese, i have gone ahead and did some research on Pou Chen group.

Its too bad i dont work for Deloitte here, since they audit Pou Chen group, otherwise i bet i could come up with some serious info about the contract agreements between PCG and Nike.

Pou Chen is a really low key corp, with countless factories all producing Nike, adidas, converse, reebok and a lot of other household brands you can think of.

You wont find much detail online about their operations.

At this point, Nike is pretty much a marketing/design company. They dont manufacture anything, they have completely outsourced that. For people here to come in and tell me that Nike has complete control over factories in China, thats a lot of Bull.

Fact of the matter is, with all these factories, Nike would be lucky to have control over maybe half of them.

I am sure nooblee prolly has more insights than me about the production line in China, but unless he comes out with everything, which i doubt he will, as he might put himself in jeopardy, since these factories maintain such low profile, if something big leaks out, it would surely alarm higher-ups in these factories.

 
Originally Posted by zyr12

Originally Posted by eddo1005

man, everyone here acting like you know what happens with factories oversea.

Fact of the matter is, Nike has no factory itself. It has outsourced its whole product line to Asia.

Since i am fluent in Chinese, i have gone ahead and did some research on Pou Chen group.

Its too bad i dont work for Deloitte here, since they audit Pou Chen group, otherwise i bet i could come up with some serious info about the contract agreements between PCG and Nike.

Pou Chen is a really low key corp, with countless factories all producing Nike, adidas, converse, reebok and a lot of other household brands you can think of.

You wont find much detail online about their operations.

At this point, Nike is pretty much a marketing/design company. They dont manufacture anything, they have completely outsourced that. For people here to come in and tell me that Nike has complete control over factories in China, thats a lot of Bull.

Fact of the matter is, with all these factories, Nike would be lucky to have control over maybe half of them.

I am sure nooblee prolly has more insights than me about the production line in China, but unless he comes out with everything, which i doubt he will, as he might put himself in jeopardy, since these factories maintain such low profile, if something big leaks out, it would surely alarm higher-ups in these factories.

 
Originally Posted by eddo1005

Originally Posted by zyr12

Originally Posted by eddo1005

man, everyone here acting like you know what happens with factories oversea.

Fact of the matter is, Nike has no factory itself. It has outsourced its whole product line to Asia.

Since i am fluent in Chinese, i have gone ahead and did some research on Pou Chen group.

Its too bad i dont work for Deloitte here, since they audit Pou Chen group, otherwise i bet i could come up with some serious info about the contract agreements between PCG and Nike.

Pou Chen is a really low key corp, with countless factories all producing Nike, adidas, converse, reebok and a lot of other household brands you can think of.

You wont find much detail online about their operations.

At this point, Nike is pretty much a marketing/design company. They dont manufacture anything, they have completely outsourced that. For people here to come in and tell me that Nike has complete control over factories in China, thats a lot of Bull.

Fact of the matter is, with all these factories, Nike would be lucky to have control over maybe half of them.

I am sure nooblee prolly has more insights than me about the production line in China, but unless he comes out with everything, which i doubt he will, as he might put himself in jeopardy, since these factories maintain such low profile, if something big leaks out, it would surely alarm higher-ups in these factories.

 
djaward wrote:
So is slam dunk space legit?
I got an email from them with this pic and Im tempted to buy. 

I would hold off on buying until you see what member on the thread get from him. I ordered 2 pairs before all this drama started. There is a lot of controversy and speculation about their authenticity. I kind of wish i did not buy them, but we will see next week when you come in, hopefully they come in.
 
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