And so the attack on the internet starts....

[stunthard]

Originally Posted by ATLien Seeko

We all know what's going to happen. Internet is like the wild west right now. Eventually, there will be laws and all sorts of placements to lock all this freedom people have online down. I'll give it 10 more years before it's had it's good run. We'll have to create another means of communication to really have freedom "online".

the internet 2 is coming...

 

[stunthard]

Originally Posted by ATLien Seeko

We all know what's going to happen. Internet is like the wild west right now. Eventually, there will be laws and all sorts of placements to lock all this freedom people have online down. I'll give it 10 more years before it's had it's good run. We'll have to create another means of communication to really have freedom "online".

the internet 2 is coming...

 

[wawaweewa]

If the feds ever envisioned what the internet would become and it's virtually unlimited potential, we would never have it in its current form today.

However, in this case, the genie is already out of the bottle. Too late. They'll try but it ain't going to go anywhere.

 

[wawaweewa]

If the feds ever envisioned what the internet would become and it's virtually unlimited potential, we would never have it in its current form today.

However, in this case, the genie is already out of the bottle. Too late. They'll try but it ain't going to go anywhere.

 

[mondaynightraw]

I read the article... this only really screws up the DNS system and pisses off every other country that currently relies on it. It seems likely that if this passes another DNS root will be set up in a foreign country. Additionally, this will only serve to push legitimate businesses out of the US (YouTube would likely have been a target if this law existed when it was started) and generally hamper innovation wrt media.

Basically, that means +%!% will be good for us. We will be more underground.
It affects DNS, so rather than typing in niketalk, you just go to what the ip is

All the DNS does is point you to ip when you type in niketalk, but there is nothing preventing you from going to the IP directly.


Sure a kink in community, but not a big deal.
if it passes, immagine many domain to ip converter sites to pop up for people being censored to get what they want.

The bill will undermine the Internet's Domain Name System and massively increase data traffic costs. As Internet engineers warned in an open letter in September, COICA will cause serious long-term problems for the Domain Name System (DNS), which translates names like "www.foxnews.com" into IP addresses like "216.35.221.76". Today, there is very little controversial censorship occurring in the global DNS, though countries like China and Iran are exceptions. If the United States government begins to use its control of critical DNS infrastructure to police alleged copyright infringement, it is very likely that a large percentage of the Internet will shift to alternative DNS mechanisms that are located outside the US. This will cause several indirect but serious problems:

• Inconsistencies between the current official DNS hierarchy and the new censorship-free alternatives. As new domains are added to the official hierarchy, propagation delay inconsistencies will inevitably cause non-blacklisted websites to be unreachable at various times.
• Currently, almost all high-traffic websites use content delivery networks like Akamai, Limelight, EdgeCast and AmazonAWS to ensure that data never has to travel long physical distances over the network before it gets to your web browser. Because COICA will lead to the widespread adoption of encrypted offshore DNS and other tunneling systems, it will get harder for CDNs to send clients to the right server. Instead of connecting to a data center in their own US city, people will be just as likely to connect to one in Europe or Asia. While modeling is urgently required to establish the precise consequences, this effect could easily result in an increase of 20% or more in the cost of Internet backbone infrastructure.
• Cybersecurity problems will grow.Currently, ISPs are in a position to keep DNS servers well-maintained and secure, to the benefit of their users. As a large percentage of the population moves to encrypted offshore DNS -- to escape the censoring effects of the procedures outlined in COICA -- those alternative DNS systems will become targets for security attacks. COICA will also complicate the urgently needed process of DNSSEC deployment.

There will prolly be plugins to do it automaticly.

not a big deal.

 

[mondaynightraw]

I read the article... this only really screws up the DNS system and pisses off every other country that currently relies on it. It seems likely that if this passes another DNS root will be set up in a foreign country. Additionally, this will only serve to push legitimate businesses out of the US (YouTube would likely have been a target if this law existed when it was started) and generally hamper innovation wrt media.

Basically, that means +%!% will be good for us. We will be more underground.
It affects DNS, so rather than typing in niketalk, you just go to what the ip is

All the DNS does is point you to ip when you type in niketalk, but there is nothing preventing you from going to the IP directly.


Sure a kink in community, but not a big deal.
if it passes, immagine many domain to ip converter sites to pop up for people being censored to get what they want.

The bill will undermine the Internet's Domain Name System and massively increase data traffic costs. As Internet engineers warned in an open letter in September, COICA will cause serious long-term problems for the Domain Name System (DNS), which translates names like "www.foxnews.com" into IP addresses like "216.35.221.76". Today, there is very little controversial censorship occurring in the global DNS, though countries like China and Iran are exceptions. If the United States government begins to use its control of critical DNS infrastructure to police alleged copyright infringement, it is very likely that a large percentage of the Internet will shift to alternative DNS mechanisms that are located outside the US. This will cause several indirect but serious problems:

• Inconsistencies between the current official DNS hierarchy and the new censorship-free alternatives. As new domains are added to the official hierarchy, propagation delay inconsistencies will inevitably cause non-blacklisted websites to be unreachable at various times.
• Currently, almost all high-traffic websites use content delivery networks like Akamai, Limelight, EdgeCast and AmazonAWS to ensure that data never has to travel long physical distances over the network before it gets to your web browser. Because COICA will lead to the widespread adoption of encrypted offshore DNS and other tunneling systems, it will get harder for CDNs to send clients to the right server. Instead of connecting to a data center in their own US city, people will be just as likely to connect to one in Europe or Asia. While modeling is urgently required to establish the precise consequences, this effect could easily result in an increase of 20% or more in the cost of Internet backbone infrastructure.
• Cybersecurity problems will grow.Currently, ISPs are in a position to keep DNS servers well-maintained and secure, to the benefit of their users. As a large percentage of the population moves to encrypted offshore DNS -- to escape the censoring effects of the procedures outlined in COICA -- those alternative DNS systems will become targets for security attacks. COICA will also complicate the urgently needed process of DNSSEC deployment.

There will prolly be plugins to do it automaticly.

not a big deal.