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Bargnani will drop 17 and 5 on 44% shooting and 37% from 3 and he would still be a "bad fit" to the critics .
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5 rebounds for a 7 footer gets you that label.
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starbury
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Damn I answered that question wrong. It took me to read your response to read the question again. I thought he said NOT a good move
. Yeah they loved Steph when he first came.
yeeupp
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Aaron Brooks, Raja Bell, Rip Hamilton, SJax, Dalembert, Barnes would be our most realistic options. If we cant sign Smith and Cope.
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No.
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And still was by far the best player in that deal
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He was a 20 and 10 big man before he got to Miami but he should be grabbing more boards currently. Him playing out on the perimeter has something to do with his declining #s though I'm sure.
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So essentially Bargnani is a cheaper combination of Marcus Camby in which he is never healthy, and Steve Novak in a bad defender, but he can shoot when healthy.
But...Bargnani can create his own shot. Steve Novak could not.
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I stopped bashing Bosh, his natural game is on the block, but that is without two superb wing players. Now that he has that, he got pushed out. He can rebound, but to be more precise, he isn't an aggressive rebounder. There is a difference.
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So essentially Bargnani is a cheaper combination of Marcus Camby in which he is never healthy, and Steve Novak in a bad defender, but he can shoot when healthy.
But...Bargnani can create his own shot. Steve Novak could not.
^ The jury will still be out on that with this offense.
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So the Knicks would go after Elton Brand and not DeJuan Blair who looks like a younger version of him at times? Dat logic
ACL COUNT:
Brand = 2
Blair = 0
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So the Knicks would go after Elton Brand and not DeJuan Blair who looks like a younger version of him at times? Dat logic
ACL COUNT:
Brand = 2
Blair = 0
We discussed that, go back a couple pages
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EB wants to be closer to home (again)
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[h1]CourtVision: The Andrea Bargnani Deal Book[/h1]
As news trickled out last night about the Knicks' pending acquisition of Andrea Bargnani, I found myself wondering what they know about Bargnani that the rest of the league does not. He was rumored to be an amnesty candidate, so why would you trade any assets, especially draft picks, for his swollen contract?
There was a time when Bargnani appeared to be the next legitimate European “stretch 4.” He was so enticing as an athletic 7-foot prospect that the Raptors selected him first overall in the 2006 NBA draft. However, time has been cruel to him, his body has proven to be fragile, and his development on the court has been modest at best. In a nutshell, Bargnani has not panned out.
About the only thing that has improved is his defense, which has risen from atrocious to acceptable. Over the past few years, the other key aspects of his game have either regressed or remained stagnant. As a scoring 7-footer, you would expect Bargnani to rack up tons of double-doubles. In 2009-10 he had 10, but in the three seasons since then he’s only had four combined. The problem is simple: He can’t rebound.
Bargnani is among the worst rebounding big men in the NBA. He plays like he doesn’t know how tall he is. In general, it’s obnoxious to label European big men as soft, but in this case it might be fair. He doesn’t know how to use his frame to help his team, and as an offensive player he much prefers the perimeter to the interior. His shot chart is not very impressive.
For a player of his size, Bargnani is surprisingly ineffective near the hoop. Last season he made only 47.8 percent of his close-range shots. He is better when he stretches out defenses and drags opposing big men out of the paint. However, unlike other bigs who do this (Chris Bosh, Kevin Garnett, Tim Duncan), Bargnani is a mediocre jump shooter. With the exception of a good shot at the top of the arc, in Toronto, Bargnani failed to find a real sweet spot.
To be fair, Bargnani is still young enough to develop, and in a new environment with better teammates, it’s reasonable to expect improvement. Regardless, pinning hopes on him remains a leap-of-faith proposition at best. It’s very hard to find a 7-foot NBA player who shoots less than 40 percent from the field and averages fewer than four rebounds per game. It’s even harder to justify spending $10 million per season on one.
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IF....there's always an if....
You basically took Camby and Novak and formed them into 1 player
At least you have a roster spot
Yeah pretty much
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I'm pretty sure that Grunwald didnt negotiate the Bargnani deal thinking "If we get Bargnani, he's taking us to the promised land.".
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To me if a GM is doing this with a major trade/signing he performs then he needs to be fired IMO....
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Agreed. We know evil Dolan probably wanted that.
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Give me Tyler Handsbroooo 
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just stare at this picture and keep saying "he has potential"... it makes you feel better, I promise
