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what y’all say?
Idc, im calling a walk everytime. Tired of this habitual line stepping trend.
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Idc, im calling a walk everytime. Tired of this habitual line stepping trend.
- Aug 9, 2014
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I’m going w/clean based on when he picked up his dribble
But I need the MDW stamp of approval lol
What do you think ?
- Apr 27, 2002
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i think it’d be clean on every level, by nba rules he probably could have taken another step…people are being fooled by the steps in between the dribble & the pick up…but you technically can take an infinite amount of steps (
not really but there isn’t a limit) between dribbles as long as the dribble is technically live…so in the nba the zer0 step is just when you start the count & high school & college you start the count with the gather
- Mar 5, 2005
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That "gather" b/s goes out of the window if those non-dribbling steps go away from the hoop. Dude took like 2 steps going to the side and one forward, it's a damn travel.
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What? Did you make that up?
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why would the direction matter? that is what made harden’s stepback deadly…as long as the player doesn’t blatantly carry/hold/palm the ball or doesn’t let their hand get below the ball, which granted is very liberally allowed, it is a live dribble and the steps aren’t counted until it is established the player has stopped the handle…
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I consider Harden traveling too. It makes no sense to me how someone could take 3-steps to me without dribbling.
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harden would definitely travel sometimes because the timing of his pickup was slightly off & nba refs, before clarifying the rule some years after harden had already been terrorizing defenders with it, admitted to giving him the benefit of the doubt actually because he was moving away from the basket into an arguably more difficult shot…
once you understand the concept, it makes sense…it’s not all that different from what we always have done, it’s just the now players are taking advantage of the how the rule is written by delaying the action of when they gather/pick up the basketball, and it has always been the case that a player could take a bunch of steps in between dribbles
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Truth be told, I didn't gather unless I was going to the hoop. But I swear I used to get calls without ever placing both feet down at once. I guess refs look at the game differently than when I was playing.
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good observation, honestly i think this is a biggest reason most people have difficulty with it because most people grew up with the gather only in that context off going towards the basket…rarely were we stepping back off tempo (remember how when manu came in euro-stepping people thought that was a travel) -more time if you did it would be pulling back quickly to get the shot off, we weren’t side stepping into shots that weren’t close to the hoop
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Cleaaaaannnnnn
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kinda surprised he put the gather on his right rather than when he actual brings the ball to his left because the player could definitely still have kept that a live dribble & ultimately that is the sort of grey area that frustrates people
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Who is this Greg dude? He wanted to fight and not hoop.
But this was entertaining as hell.
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He wanted to fight and not hoop. But this was entertaining as hell.
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- Aug 11, 2012
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Who is this Greg dude?
But this was entertaining as hell.
Bro! I love this ****
. Takes me back See a few ppl I know up in here
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Bro! I love this ****
See a few ppl I know up in here
was this a baltimore v. dc thing?
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Vs PG County*
But that’s more the underlying thing. These dudes was just going at it on the court for real. Happens.
This really how some hoop sessions be
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- Aug 9, 2014
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Lol cmon now
It’s way too fast and close to tell when he actually picked up the ball in real time imo. He says its on the left foot and u can see it in slow mo but in real time it seems like that was step one, right foot step 2, jump stop is 3 for the travel. But yea in slow mo u can tell it’s fine for nba
- May 25, 2001
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You're not doing that move anywhere in the world and not getting called for a travel. The 2nd version he showed, sure but the left, right, jump into a 2 foot landing. If you're on my team and do that I'm just walking the other way and not even backing you up on that
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here’s the question tho, if it’s way too fast to tell and someone pulls this out in a pickup game/1v1 are you calling it or letting it slide?
i’m not sure if/how/when/these moves would be applied or even necessarily transfer to in game but the awareness, knowledge, & skill to pull them off probably does have some transfer
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It depends on the score and how many people waiting
I’m kidding but for that play, I meant it’s too fast to tell it was clean (for nba) because it looked like a damn travel real time. So yeah I’m calling travel lol. I mean there are times where I can’t tell if a play was clean or not so I don’t play ref. If someone pulled out exactly what MDW did there, whole gym is calling travel
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3 or 2?
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Why would that be a 3 lol
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