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Why wouldnt it?

i would say because he begins shooting motion with a foot inside the arc, if he could/would have delayed a his gather off the stepback onto the single foot/leg shot it would have been a 3 clean but he picked up while leaning back into the shot so i don’t think he’d get the benefit of the call…
 
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if cats gotta keep asking these type of asinine questions, its time to put the ball down.
 
The shot was released with all feet that WERE actually touching the ground,, BEHIND the line.

It is essentially a modified Stepback.

3 points.



That right there is all that matters. 3 points.
So you’re saying if I have one foot inside the arc, one foot outside the arc, I pick up my inside foot and shoot a J, it’s a 3??
 
He lifts up with his foot inside the arc and then picks it before releasing the ball. No way in hell is that a 3.
 
Tbh with all my balls it feels like a 2 but idk if I’ve really seen that ( or noticed )

step back 1 footers for 3 isn’t a common shot but I can see it becoming more common if it’s a 3. Usually the step back is a fake drive, step back and both feet get established behind the arc.
 

That right there is all that matters. 3 points.
So you’re saying if I have one foot inside the arc, one foot outside the arc, I pick up my inside foot and shoot a J, it’s a 3??

Yes.

If I am standing in the Karate Kid, "Crane Kick" position with my kicking leg in front of the line and my stationary leg behind the 3, if I release the shot it should count as 3 points.
 
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So you’re saying if I have one foot inside the arc, one foot outside the arc, I pick up my inside foot and shoot a J, it’s a 3??

Yes, that would be a 3 for you.

Think of it this way, Dirk's Flamingo fadeaway would've been a 3 if he had been stepping behind the line.
 
Explain, using the rules, why it isn't a 3 pt shot.

the image is deceptive, when he begins his shot, he has a foot inside the arc…isn’t this is literally the reverse concept of why if you start your shot from behind the arc it still counts as 3 even though you could end up releasing well inside of the line…or the continuation of a shooting foul?? i would think because he started his shooting motion inside the line it would be counted as a 2?
 
Define, "started the shooting motion." tokes99 tokes99

not sure if it would be all encompassing & it isn’t the same universally, so there is some subjectivity involved but i would say it is when you gather/pick up the ball intending to shoot…

technically he gathers on the inside foot stepping back, so in this instance he wouldn’t be considered in the act of shooting:

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but even tho steps back onto a single leg, inside foot ever so slightly off the floor:

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he does put his inside foot back down & technically ultimately starts his jump shot on 2:

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so i think it’s pretty apparent that he is intending to shoot with his inside foot inside the arc so it should be a 2…that he releases the shot outside of it would seem to be irrelevant, similar to the reverse when you take off from out side the arc but release the shot inside the line still counts as 3. now if he deliberately delayed picking up the ball when on the single or pump faked and brought the ball back down and got back into a shooting motion while leaning maybe it’s a different call?
 

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None of that matters because all that **** you posted the ball is still in his hand.

But he is still on the floor with his right foot completely off the ground and the left behind the line.
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None of that matters because all that **** you posted the ball is still in his hand.

But he is still on the floor with his right foot completely off the ground and the left behind the line.
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not sure what you mean by the ball still being in his hands? if you watch refs they actually do systematically pay attention to all this stuff tho, sure they miss calls or can be fooled but will all factor in…in some scenarios i could see a similar moves as being a called a 3 with a bit more ambiguity but i think this shoot is clearly a 2
 
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"But he is still on the floor with his right foot completely off the ground and the left behind the line."

3 points.

Bingo.
 


Submitted into evidence, same thing. Was a 3 even though Wades left foot last touched inside the line
 
I can’t believe this is an argument - it’s where his feet are when the ball releases. His foot is on the ground behind the line when he released so it’s a 3. No doubt, by rule.

But with all the clickbait “is this a travel” gather-step, three steps on a layup posts rhat Overtime and Ballislife and others keep posting EVERYONE is doubting the rules.
 

Okay I see now why it threw me off at first

I walked thru this move on the court yesterday and was like of course it’s a 3, what was I thinking. But the way I remembered it was a right foot step back into a one legged left foot 3. But what he actually does isn’t a step back imo. He just has one foot inside the arc and is leaning back into his back foot and right before he releases his front foot comes off first, then the ball comes out. It looks goofy, but a 3


Edit- I mean he did step back but that part was over, he was just rising up to shoot with a backwards lean
 
I can’t believe this is an argument - it’s where his feet are when the ball releases. His foot is on the ground behind the line when he released so it’s a 3. No doubt, by rule.

But with all the clickbait “is this a travel” gather-step, three steps on a layup posts rhat Overtime and Ballislife and others keep posting EVERYONE is doubting the rules.

even tho its seems to be legal by the dwade example, i still think by rule it would seem to be an illegal 3…in a scenario where the jump shooter was more straight up but still in a slightly staggered stance with the front foot on or over the line and the same thing were to happen where he rising to shoot and front foot happens to come off the floor 1st and the other foot is behind the line i think that would be called a two…i feel like i’ve seen players get called for this but obviously i could be mistaken
 
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