Originally Posted by
LDJ
Originally Posted by
epox12
Originally Posted by OnionSlice
No. I don't believe the Hawks would be as good offensively without Joe Johnson either. Doesn't make him MVP.
So you think Joe Johnson had an equivalent year to Derrick Rose? The Heat wouldn't be as good offensively without LBJ but that doesn't make him the MVP either right?
You cant compare Johnson or LBJ offensive roles to Roses'. LBJ/Johnson a part of the offense but arent the main focal point of their team offense like Rose is. Even you as well as others said he pretty much is the teams offensive fire power, and w/o his improvement the team wouldnt be where they are offensively. The Bulls offensively go as far as Rose takes them. But the TEAM as a whole goes only as far as their DEFENSE takes them. In LBJ case its a lil of both, especially with his tenure in cle. LBJ is of course not as important to the heat offense as Rose is to the bulls because, their is this other top 5 player in Wade, another decent scorer in Bosh.
Trust and believe if the bulls are to make it and win it all it will be their team/interior defense that takes them to the top. It wont be because of individual great offensive games or bad games Rose has. Anybody who thinks Rose is the reason the Bulls are a success is a Rose fan and not a Bulls fan, nor actually watch the Bulls play. They lead the team in DEFENSE not offense. True you gotta put points on the board, but he could score 30+ hell 50 pts, if their tough defense, particularly their interior defense isnt up to par, they will get bounced out quick fast and a hurry, and just be left with highlights of spectacular plays Rose made.
Again i think its great he won the award, he had a great year. But clear cut winner not quite. I honestly think Howard regardless of there team record, his techs etc is more valuable to orlando. Like I previously stated, their teams gameplay both offensively and defensively is based on him. This was evident in the lost to the Hawks. The orl are a in and out play out the post team. Which is based on Howards inside presents. The defense is based on shooting the gaps, playing for the ball and gambling, and if those fail you have the anchor that is Howard to have your back with his post presents. What hawks did is expose that by letting him go ham inside and not allowing the in and out post gamehit the wide open shooters. And since most of the orl cant penetrate/create shots. The team was non existent. They took them out defensively by having zaza and horford play the outside, thus taking Howard out the middle, which meant orl had to play man to man and couldnt play the ball, gamble and had to play lock down one on one defense. Something they couldnt do either.
That series right there shows you how invaluble Howard is to the team. Without his inside present on offense/defense they simply are a mediocre team at best. If Rose doesnt have a great offensive game the bulls are ok can and have won (see the pacers series) because they dont rely soley on him for the teams overall success,they success is mostly because of the team defense, a attribute which Rose isnt the main reason why its a success.
