Pretty much summed up your post
there are millions of things we do in this world that "goes against natures grain"...
I don't believe politicians are idiots, but rather that it wouldn't be a politically sound move to call for marriages to not be legallyrecognized. Unless you're Ron Paul, you're probably going to be upsetting a lot of constituents by doing so.
That right there is a double-edged sword.
that was a beautiful summary of his post. i couldnt have made a better summary myself.
It's not about making anyone second-class and I don't look at them as second class. It's about what I believe is right and wrong andtrying to save as many people as I can. I have my faults too. Many faults.
I remember in a previous Prop 8 thread, someone wondered why the churches didn't invest all that money they put into fighting gay marriage into research to find the source of homosexuality (since they believe that homosexuality is a choice) and to try to fight that source. But of course that's the topic of homosexuality in and of itself and not really on topic
The source is not a genetic disposition that can scientifically be pinpointed. It is a heart and spiritual condition. That's why this conversation willnever end. As long as people refuse to acknowledge the reason for homosexuality there will never be one accord.
People may feel they are getting put into a second-class but that is simply a heart conviction. I, nor has anyone in this thread said that they aresecond-class. But people feel that way.....Examine your heart.
The church DOES put money into fighting homosexuality though, through counseling, small group ministries, and retreats. They don't just sit back and talk.Make sure you educate yourself on what they do before blaming them. I've seen many people and have heard many stories about former homosexuals who havegotten to the root of the issue, a spiritual heart condition, and God has renewed them and broken them from the bondage.
It can be done, but only through someone's choice to humble themselves and acknowledge they are in the wrong. Most people never have and never will do thatbecause of one word.
PRIDE.
It's not about making anyone second-class and I don't look at them as second class. It's about what I believe is right and wrong and trying to save as many people as I can. I have my faults too. Many faults.
dont even start with that bull !@!%.Originally Posted by 916JORDANboy
Thugnificence has stayed in this thread since page 1. Fight for your right!!
The losers of this measure need to suck it up (no pun intended) and get on with their lives. They lost, fair and square
Originally Posted by 23MCpizzle23
QFT we had a bunch of people lead by false commercials and crap this should be overturned!!'
Maybe hate was too strong of a word, truth is I don't hate anything. I am just annoyed with these "I need to save you because my beliefsare right" individuals.
No it shouldn't have. Why waste all these resources when it's just going to fall right back to the laps of these 7 judges just likebefore.
because of the system of checks and balances, the courts don't have the right to step in from the start. they can't rule on somethinguntil it's actually violating a constitutional right.
because of the system of checks and balances, the courts don't have the right to step in from the start. they can't rule on something until it's actually violating a constitutional right.
you're essentially asking why don't courts have the power to write laws and then enforce them as they see fit. is that something you REALLY want?
stop complaining about all your precious time and money this campaign has "wasted." look around you. i'm sure there are bigger tragedies.
OK got it. Courts have to wait until a ballot measure actually passes then they can act? Didn't know that.Kinda stupid in a way but if that is how it works, that's how it works. Thanks for the info.
I will stop my complaining cause at this point I could care less about gays and their rights. They lost my support. Peace... I am done with this topic.
