California propositions thread: Props 1,2,3,8,9,11,12 Pass, Props 4,5,6,7,10 fail

Originally Posted by Enlightened Thought

you'd think minorities would know a thing or two about discrimination. guess not.

from my experiences, minorities tend to be more biased towards other minorities than caucasians.
 
Originally Posted by ooIRON MANoo

Originally Posted by CWrite78

Latino's and the Catholic church....
the ignorant responses i hear on the radio from my 'people' are just pathetic. not one person has brought up a valid argument without saying religion this god that. they are all literally saying the same thing over and over again. and when they get shut down 98% of them just hang up.

I know it's sad, I managed to school a couple of my friends about the propsition and they did a 180, voting No. Makes me glad I don't attend Mass anymore. I'm not even a C&E Catholic anymore.

a friend of my mom's voted basically cause of her religion and the title of the proposition
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Originally Posted by Enlightened Thought

you'd think minorities would know a thing or two about discrimination. guess not.


EXACTLY

From the voting map, it seems as though the northern coastline voted majority no, while specks here and there in socal did while all of the IE and inland votedyes. Sadness
 
Originally Posted by theyhatinonme

Originally Posted by Enlightened Thought

you'd think minorities would know a thing or two about discrimination. guess not.


Minoritys are smart, they know gay is no good.


WHY is it no good, and HOW does it affect you?
 
Originally Posted by Oh YoU MaD

Originally Posted by CincoSeisDos

Originally Posted by Oh YoU MaD

Yo.. I still don't get why all of you are defending those people's choices.. and when someone on here says something that "sounds homosexual" you go off flaming dudes with your "ayo", "suspect", "no %###"... So you don't want to be like them but you still want them to be around you???
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Not trying to be a smart $+! at all but, I don't get what you're trying to get at.


Your defending them right now "its discrimination blah blah blah", but when someone here says something "gay" you flame them... I dont get it
"When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.

When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out."
 
Originally Posted by theyhatinonme

Originally Posted by Enlightened Thought

you'd think minorities would know a thing or two about discrimination. guess not.


Minoritys are smart, they know gay is no good.

i mean, its spelled properly right above where you typed it. come on
 
Originally Posted by knightngale

a friend of my mom's voted basically cause of her religion and the title of the proposition
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Unfortunately, that's why a majority of people voted yes.
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Originally Posted by Oh YoU MaD

Yo.. I still don't get why all of you are defending those people's choices.. and when someone on here says something that "sounds homosexual" you go off flaming dudes with your "ayo", "suspect", "no %###"... So you don't want to be like them but you still want them to be around you???
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first of all, i can only speak for myself but i never use any of that "ayo", "suspect", 'no #%%+" etc. i've madea conscious effort to also eliminate any of that kind of talk in my regular vocab too. when i was younger, i was guilty of saying things like "ohthat's gay" or just using it as an insult.

secondly, whether i believe homosexuality is a choice or not, that's irrelevant to this issue. the issue is Prop 8 effectively separates homosexuals fromeverybody else. telling them they can't marry because of their sexual orientation. why does ANYONE get married in the first place? people get marriedbecause they love each other. does a straight couple have to have any other reason other than that to get married? nope. why do you guys think gays want to getmarried? Separate but equal
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Originally Posted by Enlightened Thought

you'd think minorities would know a thing or two about discrimination. guess not.


I was born mexican... and I've gone through discrimination... but I never had the choice of being a different race... BEING GAY IS A CHOICE! Just howI'm straight I could CHOOSE to go out and kiss another men, but i CHOOSE not to, because it is wrong, disgusting, different... If I want to be different,how these people CHOOSE to be... there are other ways....
 
i can see the news choppers from my house almost fell of the tredmill at the gym laughing at dude jumping on top of the police car.


i could care less if 2 gay people want to get married.

and i agree with most of the people in here on Latino's and there view on gays. me and my mexican boy at work was talking about this how u are pretty muchdis own in a latino family there is no way they would vote yes on this. but its sad when Latino's was out protesting in downtown and everyone had thereback but cant return the favorite
 
Originally Posted by CincoSeisDos

Originally Posted by theyhatinonme

Originally Posted by Enlightened Thought

you'd think minorities would know a thing or two about discrimination. guess not.


Minoritys are smart, they know gay is no good.


WHY is it no good, and HOW does it affect you?


It's a vice on society worse than drugs. It's a disgusting unnatural depraved thing. A crime against nature. Minorities know this that's whythey are against it so much. White people have gotten stupid for believing every single thing they teach in college and high school. But minorities knowbetter. I look down on gay people. They are trying to say gay pride when that ain't nothing to be proud of.
 
Originally Posted by Oh YoU MaD

Originally Posted by Enlightened Thought

you'd think minorities would know a thing or two about discrimination. guess not.


I was born mexican... and I've gone through discrimination... but I never had the choice of being a different race... BEING GAY IS A CHOICE! Just how I'm straight I could CHOOSE to go out and kiss another men, but i CHOOSE not to, because it is wrong, disgusting, different... If I want to be different, how these people CHOOSE to be... there are other ways....


qft


but you will have those coming out saying its in your blood. ITS NOT. its a choice
 
Originally Posted by Oh YoU MaD

Originally Posted by Enlightened Thought

you'd think minorities would know a thing or two about discrimination. guess not.


I was born mexican... and I've gone through discrimination... but I never had the choice of being a different race... BEING GAY IS A CHOICE! Just how I'm straight I could CHOOSE to go out and kiss another men, but i CHOOSE not to, because it is wrong, disgusting, different... If I want to be different, how these people CHOOSE to be... there are other ways....
yes im sure they choose to get @%@# on by people like you on a daily basis. think about that one for a minute
 
Originally Posted by Oh YoU MaD

Originally Posted by Enlightened Thought

you'd think minorities would know a thing or two about discrimination. guess not.


I was born mexican... and I've gone through discrimination... but I never had the choice of being a different race... BEING GAY IS A CHOICE! Just how I'm straight I could CHOOSE to go out and kiss another men, but i CHOOSE not to, because it is wrong, disgusting, different... If I want to be different, how these people CHOOSE to be... there are other ways....

Now you're getting into an entirely different arguement.

I'll tell you what though.
Ask a gay person if being homosexual was a choice.
If your results are anything like mine, then you should change your outlook.

9 out of every 10 gay people I have ever met have said it was not a choice.
My cousin recently came out of the closet.
My dad told me everyone in the family knew he was gay by the time he was 2 years old.
 
Originally Posted by Oh YoU MaD

Originally Posted by Enlightened Thought

you'd think minorities would know a thing or two about discrimination. guess not.


I was born mexican... and I've gone through discrimination... but I never had the choice of being a different race... BEING GAY IS A CHOICE! Just how I'm straight I could CHOOSE to go out and kiss another men, but i CHOOSE not to, because it is wrong, disgusting, different... If I want to be different, how these people CHOOSE to be... there are other ways....
See, I wish this world was as simple as you make it out to be. Everything would be so much easier. Unfortunately, the real world isn't thatsimple.

You equate kissing a man to being gay. What you failed to factor in is that being gay means you're ATTRACTED to the same sex. You kissing a dude is achoice. The question is whether you enjoyed that kiss buddy.
 
discrimination is still discrimination no matter which way you look at it. you can try to reason to yourself otherwise but you cannot tell me thatdiscrimination is not wrong.

we, as a country, are singling out a group of people and stripping them of their right to marry the one they love. taking away this right is a violation ofhuman rights.

for the minorities (who have suffered from the days of slavery to the irish immigrants to the japanese internment camps) to DISCRIMINATE against a particulargroup of people, when we all share such a tragic history that is related in some way to injustice and hate, baffles my mind. it clearly shows me, by theactions of those in the streets and even on this very board, that we have not learned from the past. what we are doing as a society is embracing that hatredthat haunts all our past, simply by voting yes on 8.
 
Originally Posted by DL2352

Originally Posted by Oh YoU MaD

Originally Posted by Enlightened Thought

you'd think minorities would know a thing or two about discrimination. guess not.


I was born mexican... and I've gone through discrimination... but I never had the choice of being a different race... BEING GAY IS A CHOICE! Just how I'm straight I could CHOOSE to go out and kiss another men, but i CHOOSE not to, because it is wrong, disgusting, different... If I want to be different, how these people CHOOSE to be... there are other ways....
See, I wish this world was as simple as you make it out to be. Everything would be so much easier. Unfortunately, the real world isn't that simple.

You equate kissing a man to being gay. What you failed to factor in is that being gay means you're ATTRACTED to the same sex. You kissing a dude is a choice. The question is whether you enjoyed that kiss buddy.


Ok... so your saying its not only the kiss... its whether I liked it? ok, lets say there's 2 girls... girl A is FUGLY and I would be ashamed of being seenwith her, but deep down she was the nicest, fun person I've ever met... and girl B was model status, a gorgeous girl but had a decent personality... If Iwere to kiss both and I liked both kisses, I could choose to go with girl B because not only is she beautiful, I would not have to go through the humiliationof being with A.. yeah B's personality is average but If I don't like her there is millions of women out there...
 
Go and ask child molesters if they were born that way and they will tell you the same thing the gays tell you. Both of these things are sexual perversions thatare a choice. And the thing about "who would make a choice that would turn them into social outcasts?" people make choices to be social outcasts allthe time weather it's getting tattoos on your face or being a goth.
 
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