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It's people like you that enabled the Dark Ages to happen. Because you believe you're incapable of changing something.
Sony is a business. A business cannot exist with a large amount of unhappy customers. If enough of us voice our concerns, then change is inevitable.
This happened with many multi billion companies.
Sony itself listened to the twitter campaign regarding used games. They've proven they will listen to us. You just have to speak up
I'm already a member of Giantbomb, and I've followed every single thing about this subject. I've already listened to that podcast last night. I thought it was bull.Go listen to the podcast I posted.
Maybe then you'll see why they have made a paywall.
Also, you don't have to pay for psn to access online services like netflix.
I think the same goes for mmos, but I'm not 100% sure.
They said that it's up to the publisher.
So...Suck it up.
Pay the fee or do without.
I said for mmos not multiplayer overall.I'm already a member of Giantbomb, and I've followed every single thing about this subject. I've already listened to that podcast last night. I thought it was bull.Go listen to the podcast I posted.
Maybe then you'll see why they have made a paywall.
Also, you don't have to pay for psn to access online services like netflix.
I think the same goes for mmos, but I'm not 100% sure.
They said that it's up to the publisher.
It was PR spiel.
Also, multiplayer is not up to the publishers. They were talking about Free to Play games. I think you need to re-listen to the podcast you're telling me to listen to.
PSN sucked and people always lagged and got disconnected so if paying $50 a year to improve on the online gaming then I have no problem with it.
Nothing wrong with trying to change what you do not like but life is also about adapting, you can't always have what you want in life. Sony also has the right to charge if they want just like you have the right to complain and not buy their products.
PS4 is still $100 cheaper than XBone and XBone charges the same to play online. WiiU is the only one free now but even it is subpar in comparison to the free PSN on PS3 so really your option is very small.
So...Suck it up.
Pay the fee or do without.
You're saying I shouldn't try to change something I don't like?
Srs question.
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You're saying I shouldn't try to change something I don't like?
Srs question.
Only thing I find funny is that ps3 folks were talking **** Ohhh Microsoft charges around 50-60 dollars for xbox live. And ps3 folks were always talking **** ohh that's too much and that they'll never pay something since they're getting it for free.
Now since they don't got a chance nobody complains.
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Only it didn't.PSN sucked and people always lagged and got disconnected so if paying $50 a year to improve on the online gaming then I have no problem with it. XBox live was the best, plain and simple and that is mainly due to the extra income they get from what they charge.
Nothing wrong with trying to change what you do not like but life is also about adapting, you can't always have what you want in life. Sony also has the right to charge if they want just like you have the right to complain and not buy their products.
PS4 is still $100 cheaper than XBone and XBone charges the same to play online. WiiU is the only one free now but even it is subpar in comparison to the free PSN on PS3 so really your option is very small.
Dude, I started out this generation as a (happy) Xbox Live gamer, for 3 years. http://www.xboxlivescore.com/profile/Th3Birdman15Stop trying to make this out as a philosophical battle.
EVERYONE can see that you just don't want to pay up, but "I don't want to pay money for your service" doesn't sound as noble as "I'm standing up to an evil corporation".
You actually said that the revenue generated will cause PS+ to degrade. How does that make sense on any planet in any solar system?
I didn't just switch to PS3-- I've always been a Sony fan. Sony had the better model, and you didn't have to pay to play. Free online is THE NORM. Paying to play is what is abnormal.
I didn't say PS+ will degrade because of increased revenue-- stop strawmanning. I said that they effectively do not have competition anymore. They do not need to improve the service because why should they now?
Only it didn't.PSN sucked and people always lagged and got disconnected so if paying $50 a year to improve on the online gaming then I have no problem with it. XBox live was the best, plain and simple and that is mainly due to the extra income they get from what they charge.
Nothing wrong with trying to change what you do not like but life is also about adapting, you can't always have what you want in life. Sony also has the right to charge if they want just like you have the right to complain and not buy their products.
PS4 is still $100 cheaper than XBone and XBone charges the same to play online. WiiU is the only one free now but even it is subpar in comparison to the free PSN on PS3 so really your option is very small.
PSN is perfectly fine, and actually has more users than XBL (although that number may be skewed a bit because of multiple accounts). PSN doesn't disconnect, nor does it lag for me. Anecdotes are not fair for this type of discussion.
If it's so bad, then why are people like me fighting to keep it the same? You'd think 77 million people would be clamoring for improvements, and not being shocked by this news.
Have I mentioned I'm already going to buy it, yet?Man I just want you to answer why you are going to buy something you aren't happy with the price of.
Just a straight answer.
Not anymore? The list of gaming platforms that permit free online gaming outnumbers the list of platforms that do not. Sorry, you're wrong.Not anymore.
So you're saying they shouldn't improve it because it's fine as is?
As you clearly have no idea what you're talking about, I'm done with you.You are fighting because it is free and plenty of people would fight to save a few bucks. Simple as that. Ask anyone (and try not to be biased with Sony fanboys) and they'd tell you XBox live is easily the better of the two, there is no denying that. The features alone beat PSN by a landslide. PSN also got hacked and hacked bad, is it due to less funds for protection? Maybe, maybe not.
Not anymore? The list of gaming platforms that permit free online gaming outnumbers the list of platforms that do not. Sorry, you're wrong.
In addition, you've missed my point entirely (are you doing that on purpose?). I am saying that those without competition plateau or degrade. Sony has no competition now. WHAT INCENTIVES DO THEY HAVE TO CONTINUE TO IMPROVE THE SERVICE OR EVEN GIVE OUT FREE GAMES NOW THAT THE SERVICE IS MANDATORY?
Comprende?
Exactly what I was talking about.What are these free platforms that outnumber those that pay to play? There are really 3 major systems here and 2 of the 3 requires paying now.