Colin Kaepernick Is Righter Than You Know

[blastercombo]

If you haven’t heard of upward bound it’s a program for impoverished, 1st generation college students that are in high school, aka black kids. They live on college campuses and go to the classes they’ll be taking in the fall to help them get ahead. I lived and worked with these kids from 2005-2011 until I finished my mba, which surprisd surprisd came from an HBCU. (I’ll admit my bs came from an sec school and we all know they’re predominantly white.)

I know how many emails I get from the diversity committee where I work that encourages minorities to get in the health care field. They don’t send those to all 10,000+ employees, only the ones who sign up for them.

These are among the last dozen books I’ve read. I’ve alwsys been pro black. I have nothing against other races, but mine is the one I love the most.

To presume you know what a man cares about because he chooses to watch or attend football games is right up there with some of the dumbest **** I’ve seen on this forum. What do you say to a family member of a player? Should they not watch their nephew, or son, cousin or friend because of an nfl policy? Should the player that busted his *** for 10 years to get there not enter the draft because of recent events? The nba got the same type rule so when you’re done saying that to nfl players and families, say it to nba families

Real **** you’re a clown and anyone who says you have to not watch football to care is one too. That **** sounds cool though.

Waaa waaa waaa, post more pictures, I don’t care. Again, just say you don’t care enough to flip the channel. Be done. Admit that and move on. Nobody asked for your life story. That’s what this is all about. That real enough for you? “I’ve read ____” I don’t care. That now validates everything you have to say? Lol. Sounds a lot like “but I have black friends”. Weak boy lol. Those pics looked cool though LOL

You still equating buying groceries to watching openly anti civil rights owners lead sports entertainment is hilarious. Whatever school you went to failed you. Sit

 

[getback]

If you stopped watching ball cause of this you should’ve stopped watching all tv and movies when them emails leaked. And what would y’all tell Kaep knowing he tried to get back into the nfl last year? If he got a deal, he would’ve been in the league last year. What’s important is that he would have kept doing the things to support black and brown people. Keep thinking you not watching a game is more effective than actually doing something, actually spending time doing something for people of color.

Didn’t catch the beginning of the thread but I imshinr it went from supporting Kaep’s stance to calling all nfl players idiots and making presumptions about people you don’t know and never will. Funny and sad at the same time.

I’ll see y’all when more content worth reading is being posted.

So you're just going to assume no one on NT is active in politics, the black community, charity, etc?

 

[DCAllAfrican]

So reading that first tweet
Let me know
NFL player are p
And idiots
Only reason they gonna protest now
Is to directly directly go against the new rules
And they wasn’t ginna protest this season
Straight suckas

Easy for us to speak on what they "should" do when we are sitting on our couches.

We gotta stop that

 

[blastercombo]

So you're just going to assume no one on NT is active in politics, the black community, charity, etc?

Boy is on one for sure. Claims he’s captain care but looks like the tipping point is a couple hours of lazily watching TV on sundays for a couple months. Sitting here arguing tooth and nail

 

[nawghtyhare]

Easy for us to speak on what they "should" do when we are sitting on our couches.

We gotta stop that

Don’t say we sitting on our couches
Cause better believe I ain’t

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Don’t say we sitting on our couches
Cause better believe I ain’t

Wasn't being literal.

The point is, we are not in their shoes, so for us to say what they should be doing is out of pocket.

Especially when you consider how many dudes in the NFL that are fearful of losing their jobs. Not like this is the NBA where there are guaranteed contracts.

It ain't as simple as, "They should do something, if not they are suckas."

 

[JPS]

crabs in a barrel in the last few pages smh

 

[DCAllAfrican]

I'll say players don't have to do anything they feel jeopardizes their jobs, but they atleast have responsibility to take they riches they have now to try and build generational wealth and power.

Sounds good but honestly, Most don't play long enough and/or have contracts massive enough to create generational wealth.

The AVERAGE NFL Salary is $2 million. That doesn't include taxable income.

So it isn't surprising that most are there for the moment. I don't blame them, they worked their whole lives for this moment.

 

[hand2handking]

Police Killed At Least 378 Black Americans From The Moment Colin Kaepernick Protested
These Americans deserve to be more than another statistic.

BOB STRONG/REUTERS
Demonstrators face off with California Highway Patrol officers as they protest the police shooting of Stephon Clark, in Sacramento, California, on March 30, 2018.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...-colin-kaepernick_us_5b070160e4b07c4ea10655be

When former San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick took a knee during the national anthem in August 2016, it was in protest of unjust police killings of black Americans.

For his courage, Kaepernick lost his job, the NFL lost its mind by forbidding the peaceful action ― and meanwhile, at least 378 black Americans have lost their lives in police killings.

That most recent estimate of black police violence victims comes from data compiled by The Washington Post and analyzed by HuffPost.

Last August, HuffPost reported that based on the Post’s data, at least 223 black Americans had been killed by police gunfire in the year since Kaepernick first sat, then took a knee, to protest police violence. Less than a year later, that number has increased by at least 155 people.

It’s likely that the real number of victims is higher. Between Aug. 14, 2016 ― when Kaepernick first sat out the national anthem ― and now, at least 253 of the people listed in the Post’s database did not have their race confirmed. Furthermore, the database only includes shooting deaths, so people like Eric Garner, a black father who was unarmed when an officer put him in a fatal chokehold, would not be included.

In total, 3,357 people have been fatally shot by police since 2015, according to the Post’s data.

The sobering numbers come just after the NFL announced its cowardly decision on Wednesday to ban kneeling during the national anthem. The league can now fine teams that participate in protests, with the punishment of individual players left up to their team.

In a statement, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell said that “on-field protests created a false perception among many that thousands of NFL players were unpatriotic.” (He did not seem to understand that silencing a peaceful protest might also come across as unpatriotic.)



Polling has shown that views on the NFL protests are deeply polarized, but most Americans polled last fall said they believed the players were protesting police violence, not the American flag. Kaepernick also made it clear that he was protesting racism, police violence and inequality.

Yet President Donald Trump has called the protests a “total disrespect of our heritage,” and “a total disrespect of everything we stand for.”

Trump even suggested that protesting players should leave the country.

“You have to stand proudly for the National Anthem or you shouldn’t be playing,” Trump said. “You shouldn’t be there. Maybe you shouldn’t be in the country.”

Trump also said he’d like NFL owners to say, “get that son of a ***** off the field right now, he’s fired” if a player protested.

Despite the vitriol, Kaepernick did reach out to veterans to make sure his protests were respectful. Initially, the former quarterback simply sat out the anthem, but former Green Beret Nate Boyer says he persuaded him to kneel.

“That’s how it all started with Colin and I, neither of us knew that kneeling would be the result of our conversation,” Boyer wrote in an open letter to both Kaepernick and Trump last October. “Colin wanted to sit, I wanted him to stand, and so we found a common ground on a knee alongside his teammates. I believe that progress and real change happens in this world when you reach across the divide, you build a bridge, you swallow your pride, you open your mind, you embrace what you don’t understand, and ultimately you surrender.”

One person killed by police since Kaepernick began protesting was 22-year-old Stephon Clark, who was shot at 20 times by two officers in his own backyard in Sacramento, California, earlier this year. He was armed with only a cellphone.

Clark’s death sparked a wave of protests across the city. And why not? The killing was sickening, and Clark deserved more than to be another statistic.

But the NFL doesn’t seem to care about that.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

I get what he attempted to compare this to but the fact that he thought it was a legitimate counter to anything said enough. It’s not.


If y’all are down to support the NFL becuase you don’t care enough just say it. That’s all we’re saying. Own and accept that. Quit the false equivalencies to attempt to justify what YOU want to do.

That's all sounds good but it still don't negate the fact that if you live here you're giving support to racist white people one way or another. Please don't get into the who cares and who don't cuz you used to be on here defending racism tryna say "black people can be racist too". It's good you don't still talk that **** but people been having a pro black mindset long before you switched.

 

[nawghtyhare]

Wasn't being literal.

The point is, we are not in their shoes, so for us to say what they should be doing is out of pocket.

Especially when you consider how many dudes in the NFL that are fearful of losing their jobs. Not like this is the NBA where there are guaranteed contracts.

It ain't as simple as, "They should do something, if not they are suckas."

u in the kitchen cooking up biscuits jemelle????
this so unlike u
whats next
u gonna perm ur hair
keep that fro baby
i like u all natural

 

[hand2handking]

i still wouldn't watch

i get it

i would just watch him so hopefully his games would be the highest rated of the weekend

his jersey sell the most, people wear kaep jerseys to the game etc

like try to make the statement that we as football fans support kaepernick

maybe change the channel when they go on defense

 

[hand2handking]

NFL Owners Reportedly Didn't Vote on the League's New National Anthem Policy

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nf...-national-anthem-policy/ar-AAxLgXa?li=BBnb7Kz

According to NFL commissioner Roger Goodell, the league's new policy mandating that all players and team and league personnel who are on the field for the singing of the national anthem must stand during the anthem or else be subject to penalties was approved by a unanimous vote of NFL owners.

On Wednesday, however, 49ers owner Jed York announced that he had . On Thursday afternoon ESPN's Outside the Lines reported something that, if true, shows Goodell's claim to be even less accurate.

According to Seth Wickersham, the owners did not hold a formal vote on the new policy. Instead, league executives just polled owners and then "knew how they would vote."

As I just said on @OTLonESPN sources in the room told me there was no official vote for the anthem resolution. League execs polled owners and knew how they’d vote but didn’t hold an official vote, atypical for such a major resolution.

— Seth Wickersham (@SethWickersham) May 24, 2018

There was also apparently a second abstention from that poll, as owner Mark Davis reportedly abstained as well.

Also told that Mark Davis was one of the most eloquent speakers on the social justice issues—and that he abstained from the vote as well.

— Seth Wickersham (@SethWickersham) May 24, 2018

chairman Christopher Johnson (who is the team while his brother, Jets owner Woody Johnson, serves as the United States Ambassador to the United Kingdom) incurred by any Jets players for violating the policy.

According to Jim Trotter of there were 8-10 owners who, before the meetings, expressed support for keeping the league's anthem policy "as is," as they believed the protests were fading and the league should instead focus on community work being done by players.

The anthem vote is particularly interesting in that 8-10 owners - before the meetings - privately expressed support for keeping policy as is. Some told me they believed the protests were fading and the focus should be on the positive community work being done by players/league.

— Jim Trotter (@JimTrotter_NFL) May 24, 2018

It seems fairly clear that, whether one agrees with the actual policy or not, the NFL's roll-out and messaging campaign surrounding the policy has not gone well.

 

[yobyellav]

Fam said waa waa waa.

 

[blastercombo]

That's all sounds good but it still don't negate the fact that if you live here you're giving support to racist white people one way or another. Please don't get into the who cares and who don't cuz you used to be on here defending racism tryna say "black people can be racist too". It's good you don't still talk that **** but people been having a pro black mindset long before you switched.

I used to be on here doing what now?? Bro shut your weak *** up. Don’t say dumb **** and try to end an argument saying some blatant lies. Makes you look like a ***

 

[yobyellav]

So you're just going to assume no one on NT is active in politics, the black community, charity, etc?

Not all all bruh. I can’t imagine that there aren’t a bunch of people here who are. What I think matters is actively doing something. Not turning off a game. If Kaepernick had gotten a deal, this logic means he doesn’t care cause he’s playing in a league with this policy, never mind what he’s actually doing.

 

[gry60]

I don't go out of my way to boycott things, but if a company is open about the fact that issues that may affect me are of little concern to them, the least I can do is find an alternative to what they produce instead of putting more money in their pockets.

 

[blastercombo]

And actively doing something CAN include turning off a game. How hard is that to understand? you’re also NOT limited to JUST turning off a game. It can be done in conjunction with different things.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

I used to be on here doing what now?? Bro shut your weak *** up. Don’t say dumb **** and try to end an argument saying some blatant lies. Makes you look like a ***

Relax with the fake tough ****. It ain't hard to see your history.

Wouldn't it be more racist to think this was racist??

Here's my question, what's the negative connotation here? Ok stereotype, blah blah blah...... So no tacos for Hispanic month? No rice for Asian month? I'm really just curious.

Fictional characters for a fictional movie of a fictional story, yet "it's a racial issue".


Gotcha

Which is why I'll call the confederate flag stuff fake outrage over say the lion story. The people who had a supposed "problem" with the flag see it every day. NOTHING was brought up. The lion getting killed isn't something you see everyday. The story is actually very uncommon.

And it's more. You used to be a troll on here 24/7.

 

[AL Andretti]

 

[gry60]

You do go in circles. Y'all talk about the same **** and it goes nowhere. Again we can do the hypocrite thing all day with you Clinton boys.









No, the system favors white people. That's who the system was built by and for. Y'all votes mean nothing in the big picture.

You're not thinking rationally and you seem to willfully ignore the changes that have happened since the creation of the US. Not all Whites originally had political power. To vote and affect policy in the early years of America, you had to be a white male property owner. We went from that to black men getting the right to vote, then women.

If voting meant nothing, why was Steve Bannon discouraging Black people from voting on 2016 through negative ad campaigns?

You talking about "Clinton boys" is proof that you don't want to make uncomfortable choices; many Clinton voters were lukewarm about her but they knew the alternative was ****tier, but they still chose without hiding behind BS excuses.

 

[yobyellav]

I don't go out of my way to boycott things, but if a company is open about the fact that issues that may affect me are of little concern to them, the least I can do is find an alternative to what they produce instead of putting more money in their pockets.

Makes sense. I just don’t see not watching the game affecting billionaires who were billionaires before the league. I don’t see me doing anything to change how someone who believes in white supremacy feels. Don’t actually care to to be honest. What I think I can do to make a difference is to help my young black brothers and sisters. I say some of what I’ve done and I still don’t care and should leave the thread. Some dude actually responded by saying waaa. Didn’t read past the last waaa. Can’t take a lot of the stuff in here seriously cause of **** like that.

 

[blastercombo]

Relax with the fake tough ****. It ain't hard to see your history.











And it's more. You used to be a troll on here 24/7.

That’s all you can come up with? Un racial comments completely taken out of context? Lol bro try again. This all stacks up as proof you have ZERO counter point to make to the point you’re attempting to deviate to personal means. You out here looking sad boy

 

[yobyellav]

The thing about Kaep getting a deal is something I really want to know though. If he did, I imagine those of you who don’t watch any longer would continue not watching. How would you feel about him though? That policy is prolly here to stay. Would y’all be disappointed or what; even if he kept kneeling or stayed in the tunnel....

At one point I wanted him to get a deal and turn it down. Now I want him to get a deal and ball out. He’s still better than more than a few guys who were starting last season.

 

[yobyellav]

Relax with the fake tough ****. It ain't hard to see your history.











And it's more. You used to be a troll on here 24/7.

This the guy who told me I don’t care about white people telling black to just shut up and play or some **** like that after I’ve shared some of what I try to do to help people who look like me. Is dude not black? Man NT is too much sometimes. **** funny and sad at the same time.

You a wild boy blaster.