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Originally Posted by Kiddin Like Jason
He's not Randolph athletic at all, but he's a better basketball player in general.
again we see guys like Milsap and Maxiell play above the rim in the NBA.Originally Posted by StylishStef89
Originally Posted by Osh Kosh Bosh
Millsap measured out the exact same except he was 6'7, lighter at 253 and had a 7'1 wingspan.
This is what I'm trying to point out though. After seeing how all these "undersized" bigmen who put up very good numbers in college slipped thru the draft because teams were scared off due to their height, I think this year that trend might break. DeJuan produced in what was probably the strongest conference this year on a consistant basis against top notch competition. I would say this year a team would take a chance on him based off past drafts.
what;s he do better other than shoot?Originally Posted by Kiddin Like Jason
He's not Randolph athletic at all, but he's a better basketball player in general.
Originally Posted by airmaxpenny1
Originally Posted by Kiddin Like Jason
He's not Randolph athletic at all, but he's a better basketball player in general.
Anthony Randolph>>>>>>>>>>>Austin Daye.
what;s he do better other than shoot?
Absolutely nothing...
When you're a top five pick, like Blake Griffin or Hasheem Thabeet, this time leading up to the draft isn't very suspenseful. Their spot in the lottery is locked down and all they have to do in the next four weeks is just confirm what scouts and GMs believe. For others, like Joe Ingles, Gani Lawal, Jermaine Taylor, and DaJuan Summers, the short-term of their basketball careers hang in the balance of what they accomplish leading up to June 25th. At the pre-draft combine in Chicago we got a chance to sit down with some of these guys firmly on the 1st round bubble and found out where their mindset is at and how they feel about the process up to this point.
Joe Ingles - Small Forward - Australia - 6'8", 194 lbs.
By the time the NBA draft has come to an end there may not be any player more exhausted than Joe Ingles. Ingles, a relative unknown up to this point from Australia, is making his rounds to just about each and every team in the league as he tries to make up for the lack of exposure he's gotten over the past few years.
"It's been long," said Ingles. "I've been here for about two months based in Chicago. It's been pretty busy. I've had seven workouts so far and now this. I'll go to the group workout in Golden State straight from here. Come back here for a day then go to Treviso in Italy and then another bunch of team workouts. It's been busy and good. We've had a year to do all I could. I came over last year and decided to declare but did the Olympics instead, which was a great experience. It's been a long time waiting, a lot of teams have wanted to see me so that's why I've had so many workouts. I knew I had to be in shape and that's why I came over so early."
The Beijing Olympics were really the only time that those of us who aren't scouts got a chance to see Ingles play. However, he feels he's a combination of two prominent NBA players, which helps gives us a better idea of who he is on the court.
"I'm similar to Tayshuan Prince and Manu Ginobili, if you can kind of mold them into one player," stated Ingles. "With Ginobili his penetration, he can get to the line, finish, hand it to a big, or kick it out for a shot. Tayshaun he's a long body like me, he's 6'8, not the biggest or bulkiest guy you've seen. He's long defensively though and can guard 1-3 or probably 1-4. Offensively he can get the rebound and take it up the floor. So if you can kinda mold those two together, I'm somewhere around there."
Ingles has a lot to prove to these teams who have seen him on such a limited bases, but he's got four weeks to familiarize them enough with his game to make an investment in him come June 25th.
"I think my passing is probably the best attribute I've got and versatility," revealed Ingles. "I can play the 1-3. I think the process has been good, that's why I'm doing so many workouts so teams can see what I can do. Find out who I am, from all the little things to the big things."
Gani Lawal - Sophomore - Power Forward - Georgia Tech - 6'9", 240 lbs.
At Georgia Tech the number 31 jersey is reserved and nobody is allowed to even think about taking it as the Yellow Jackets hope that Gani Lawal will don it for just one more season. As one of the premier power forward prospects in the country though Lawal is testing the waters and getting some feedback on his game as he faces the toughest decision in his life.
"At this point you've been dissected from every angle and every point," explained Lawal. "The part that's hit the most is my polish, free throws, and mid-range shooting. I'm a constant workhorse though, I'm constantly working. Those are areas of my game I'm trying to improve as well as all parts of my game. You can never be the ultimate player, you always have to constantly try to improve."
In just two years at Georgia Tech Lawal has done a lot of improving, doubling his points and tripling his rebounding averages from his freshman to sophomore year. As impressive as his 15 points and nine rebounds a game are, his mindset about the game is even more so.
"I try to pride myself in my defense," said Lawal. "Not just be a guy who worries about offense. As a big man you're not always get the ball where you want it when you want it. You have to get yourself going somehow and defense is a way to do that. You can make a presence and dominate a game from a defensive standpoint, without even scoring a basket by rebounding, altering, and blocking shots."
The Georgia Tech program has experienced two down years, which is far from the ordinary for them. During that time Lawal has been one of the true bright spots and is undoubtedly going to make his impact felt in the league whenever he decides to officially declare. He accurately compares himself to two of the most underrated big men in the league.
"I go to a lot of Hawks games, so I'd say Al Horford and Paul Millsap from the Jazz," stated Lawal. "Just the way they play the game, with their length, explosiveness, and the way they rebound the basketball. I think I can bring those qualities to the hardwood, so those two guys come to mind."
Lawal has yet to hire an agent, preserving his college eligibility. However, the chances of him returning for his junior season look slim as he is cementing himself as a 1st round pick.
"I feel like I'm going to have a good showing here as well as in my individual interviews and workouts in my respective cities," said a confident Lawal. "With that being said I feel confident in my ability to be picked in the 1st round.
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Jermaine Taylor - Senior - Shooting Guard - Central Florida - 6'4", 208 lbs.
No one player benefitted more from this year's Portsmouth Invitational than Central Florida's Jermaine Taylor. Taylor excelled at the camp and has been on the rise ever since.
"There was never doubt in my mind that I was gonna go or not," Taylor said. "A lot of people tried to get me not to go, they thought it would hurt me but I wanted to see where I was going against some of the supposedly top players. I was real excited to go and nothing was going to keep me from going."
It's widely believed that by the time draft night comes and goes Taylor will end up a 1st round pick. After averaging over 20 points, including 26 this year, for the past two seasons NBA teams know Taylor can score. There are some concerns about the other side of the court though.
"They think that I'm not a good defender," admitted Taylor. "It's not that I'm not a good defender, I've just never been asked to play defense. I've always had to focus on offense so much that I kind of take breaks on the defensive end cause I have to do so much for my team on offense. Once I get on a team where I'm not the only offensive threat then I don't have to deal with double teams and so much pressure on offense. I can focus on defense and I think I'll be a lockdown defender."
Playing at Central Florida didn't exactly make Taylor a household name, but the player he's hearing himself compared to the most is certainly someone everyone knows.
"From what I've been hearing Dwayne Wade, just because in college he started off the same as me," said Taylor. "Our numbers are kind of identical, if you look at his numbers from when he first started to his senior year in college. Also, we're the same size and height. We're both athletic, I've heard it a lot."
The expectations that come from being compared to Dwayne Wade are pretty lofty, but Taylor is confident in his abilities and already sees a couple teams where he could go in and really make a difference.
"I think Philadelphia, just because I've watched them play a lot," explained Taylor. "I don't want to say they don't have any shooters, but they don't have consistent shooters. I've watched a few times where they'll have a guy get double-teamed, he'll kick it for a wide open shot and they don't knock it down. Also in Cleveland because LeBron James gets so much attention. It's the same thing as I said about Philly, he kicks it to his teammates and they can't make the open shot. That's never been a problem for me, I'm a shooter."
DaJuan Summers - Junior - Combo Forward - Georgetown - 6'8", 240 lbs.
After a season to forget DaJuan Summers quickly hired an agent, deciding he had gotten all he could have out of the college game. Many questioned the decision because of Summers' room to improve and lack of a true position, but he isn't paying any mind to the negative perceptions about him.
"It's tough to say cause everyone has their knocks," said Summers. "I watch the playoffs right now, people have knocks on Lebron and Kobe. It's all relative. It's all about how you approach the game and what you listen to. When I look at it I always feel like I need to get better at everything. I always feel like even if I shoot well I need to shoot better. I shot 38% from 3 this year, I want to get to 40-42%. I want to handle the ball better, improve my IQ, and overall game. If you love the game you want to get better at everything."
It's impossible to question Summer's love for the game because he practices what he preaches. One-dimensional is a term you'll never hear with Summers as he prides himself in being able to do it all on the basketball court.
"I'm a bigger forward who can shoot, handle, and also play inside," explained Summers. "I think that's needed in the league to create mismatch problems. I can also defend multiple positions."
"It's good too," added Summers about his low post game. "That's what I've been doing most of my life. I've also been able to shoot too. However the defender is playing me dictates what I do."
The Chicago Bulls were brought up a couple of times in association with Summers, but because of their position in the draft and their talented group of forwards he doesn't see much of a need for himself there. There are several other teams though where he would fit just fine.
"I think Detroit needs a forward," Summer said. "A young guy who can come in and score, play multiple positions, and defend them. The Bobcats as well, Cleveland later in the first round, and also L.A. They have Odom, but another guy like Ariza could help too."
DaJuan passed on comparing himself to any other player in the league, instead letting us know who some of his favorite players are.
"The person whose game I love the most is Carmelo," acknowledged Summers. "It's not cause he's blowing up right now and a lot of people are hopping on. I've always thought he was underrated. He's from Baltimore, that's where I'm from. He's a lethal scorer and I know I can score in the same ways, I just haven't been in the same positions to score. I also like Wilson Chandler from New York and Caron Butler."
Most mock drafts have Summers on the outside looking in on the first round, but he's very confident that he'll be selected somewhere in the first 30 picks.
"Yeah definitely, without a doubt," said Summers of being a first round pick. "The workouts that I've had, the things I've shown the scouts, I'm pretty positive I will be a 1st round pick."
As confident as Summers and the rest of the players are that they're going to be selected in the first round, in the end only 30 guys are selected there despite many others feeling like their worthy. Being selected in the 2nd round or even going undrafted does not mean that no chance remains to be a very successful NBA player. It's not about how you start it's about how you finish, and all of these guys have a long way to go before the end. These next four weeks and draft night are only the beginning.
I just haven't been in the same positions to score.
kinda tough when you dribble it off your foot every possession.
Knicks Offering Trades to Memphis?
Posted: 5/30/2009 6:00:00 AM
Source: Ronald Tillery of the Memphis Commercial Appeal
With less than a month to go before the draft, the Grizzlies are in exploratory mode with the No. 2 overall pick -- from trading up in order to pry No. 1-in-waiting Blake Griffin from the Los Angeles Clippers to moving down and acquiring an established NBA player.
"We've had a good amount of activity, and it will increase the closer we get to draft night," said Wallace, the Grizzlies' general manager. "There's a different level of activity when you're at No. 2. You can say the draft starts when we pick."
The draft is June 25, and there will be enough rumors to match the amount of cell phone minutes Wallace logs by then.
Wallace would not respond to or acknowledge potential deals the Grizzlies are weighing. The pre-draft rumor mill, though, has the Grizzlies spinning in a number of directions:
The New York Knicks offered to buy the Grizzlies' 27th pick for $3million, according to a source. The Griz turned down that proposal.
The Knicks, according to speculation, also expressed interest in acquiring center Darko Milicic in a deal that could possibly include Quentin Richardson, whose $9.3 million contract expires after the 2009-10 season. Milicic will earn $7.5 million this upcoming season -- the last of a three-year, $21 million deal.
Oklahoma City and Sacramento are said to be interested in moving up from the third and fourth slots, respectively. Those teams have interest in Griffin and Spanish point guard Ricky Rubio. Would the Kings be willing to part with power forward Jason Thompson (a 2008 lottery pick) and the No. 4 selection for the chance to take Rubio?
Thunder Serious About Taking Rubio?
Posted: 5/30/2009 7:50:00 AM
Source: Bill Ingram for HOOPSWORLD
What, then, will the Oklahoma City Thunder do with the third overall pick? The buzz being sent out by the team is that they might go shooting guard, and names like James Harden and DeMar DeRozan have been thrown out there for the media to feast upon. Yet while we've been in Chicago catching up with anyone and everyone in the NBA, we've learned that the Thunder are actually very seriously considering taking Ricky Rubio with the #3 and moving Russell Westbrook, who is a Brandon Roy type of point guard, over to his more natural position off the ball.
Keep in mind that this is the time of misdirection and distraction. NBA general managers don't want anyone to know who they really like, as that knowledge empowers a team above them to out-maneuver them by taking their player and then offering to trade him down for a lower pick and an additional asset. Most of the teams are just starting to truly understand who these players are, and this year more than any other in recent memory we'll see June workouts influence who teams ultimately choose at the draft.
If the draft were today, however, we're assured that the Thunder would most likely go with Rubio, improving what is already the best young nucleus in the NBA.
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How about Psycho T and Kevin Garnett?Originally Posted by I NaSmatic I
I'm disappointed there haven't been too many comparisons made in here...there's always that one comparison that provides good laughs.
Originally Posted by JapanAir21
How about Psycho T and Kevin Garnett?Originally Posted by I NaSmatic I
I'm disappointed there haven't been too many comparisons made in here...there's always that one comparison that provides good laughs.
Originally Posted by I NaSmatic I
Originally Posted by JapanAir21
How about Psycho T and Kevin Garnett?Originally Posted by I NaSmatic I
I'm disappointed there haven't been too many comparisons made in here...there's always that one comparison that provides good laughs.
You can't compare white players to black players though.
Mavs eye First Round Pick at Combine
May 28, 2009
Posted by Earl K. Sneed
A return to the First Round of the NBA Draft could mean a lot for the Dallas Mavericks.
It is certain that the Mavs head into Thursday's pre-draft combine in Chicago with their eyes on a Day One contributor.
Dallas hasn't selected in the first round since taking Maurice Ager with the 28th pick in the 2006 draft. Three years before that, the Mavs claimed Josh Howard with 29th pick.
Now Dallas tries to add a piece to a squad that lost in the Western Conference Semifinals, but which hole in the Mavs' lineup will Dallas seek to fill with the No. 22 overall pick?
"Anything we can do to improve the team, to improve the elements to enhance our entire situation, we're going to do it," Mavs coach Rick Carlisle said earlier this month in regard to both addressing needs in the draft and free agency.
With point guard Jason Kidd becoming an unrestricted free agent this summer, the Mavs could add depth to the point guard position in the draft.
The team has already worked out Darren Collison (UCLA), Patrick Mills (St. Mary's College), French point guard Rodrigue Beaubois and fellow lead guard Curtis Jerrells (Baylor).
The 6-foot-1, 165-pound Collison has long been regarded as one of the best defensive guards in the country, while Mills (6-0, 175 pounds) was one of the best scorers in the nation last season.
At 6-2 and 182 pounds, Beaubois has played three seasons in the French League and his abilities have been compared to his countryman Tony Parker's skills on the offensive end.
"There are certain things that everybody is looking for - strength, athleticism, length, shooting ability, the ability to drive the ball. We're going to be looking for all those elements that would enhance our core group," Carlisle said.
According to DraftExpress.com, the Mavs could also add a big man to the equation. It could be a highly-skilled big man, at that.
The site, known for its breakdown of the draft, has the Mavs taking three-time All-American forward Tyler Hansbrough from North Carolina. While at Chapel Hill, Hansbrough became the Atlantic Coast Conference's all-time leading scorer.
Last week the team brought in two other big men to work out, when Texas A&M's Chinemelu Elonu and Serbian forward Vladimir Dasic tried to impress Dallas' scouts.
For now, prospective players will be judged on their health and interview skills, as members of the Mavs' front office and scouting department gather in Chicago today and tomorrow to conduct interviews and medical exams with potential draftees.
For all of your draft and offseason news on the Dallas Mavericks, stay tuned to Mavs.com.
Originally Posted by Nowitness41Dirk
If we draft Hansbrough, I'll never post under this username again...
Originally Posted by Al3xis
Ty Lawson is trash in the NBA. scouts know it.
Tim Thomas is twice the shooter from 3, Earl is but I see that comparison. Why are some saying he's non chalant and what not? After Pitino benched him earlier in the year, I NEVER saw him play soft. he brought it.
Eric Maynor is nothing in the NBA, either. Dude did not really dominate his league like he shoulda.
I've never watched Austin Daye and been impressed.
Majok
Jeff Adrien, UConn | 6' 5¼" | 6' 6½" | 235.2 | 7' 2" | 8' 11½" |
Rodrigue Beaubois, France | 6' 1¼" | 6' 2¼" | 182.4 | 6' 9¾" | 8' 4" |
DeJuan Blair, Pittsburgh | 6' 5¼" | 6' 6½" | 276.6 | 7' 2" | 8' 10½" |
Derrick Brown, Xavier | 6' 7½" | 6' 8½" | 224.6 | 7' 2½" | 8' 11½" |
Chase Budinger, Arizona | 6' 6¼" | 6' 7" | 206.4 | 6' 7" | 8' 5" |
DeMarre Carroll, Missouri | 6' 6¼" | 6' 7¾" | 207.2 | 6' 10" | 8' 9" |
Omri Casspi, Israel | 6' 7¾" | 6' 9¼" | 211.2 | 6' 9¼" | 8' 10½" |
Dionte Christmas, Temple | 6' 4¼" | 6' 5½" | 210.6 | 6' 9" | 8' 6½" |
Earl Clark, Louisville | 6' 8½" | 6' 10¼" | 226.4 | 7' 2 1/5" | 9 1½" |
Darren Collison, UCLA | 6' 0¼" | 6' 1½" | 166.2 | 6' 3" | 8' 0½" |
Dante Cunningham, Villanova | 6' 7" | 6' 8¼" | 227.4 | 6' 11" | 8' 10½" |
Stephen Curry, Davidson | 6' 2" | 6' 3¼" | 181.0 | 6' 3½" | 8' 1" |
Austin Daye, Gonzaga | 6' 9¾" | 6' 10¾" | 191.8 | 7' 2¼" | 9' 2" |
DeMar DeRozan, USC | 6' 5¼" | 6' 6¼" | 211.2 | 6' 9" | 8' 6¼" |
Toney Douglas, Florida State | 6' 1" | 6' 2" | 183.4 | 6' 6" | 8' 1½" |
Wayne Ellington, North Carolina | 6' 4¼" | 6' 5¼" | 202.4 | 6' 6½" | 8' 4" |
Tyreke Evans, Memphis | 6' 4" | 6' 5¼" | 220.6 | 6' 11¼" | 8' 8" |
Jonny Flynn, Syracuse | 5 11¼" | 6' 0¾" | 195.6 | 6' 4" | 7' 11½" |
Taj Gibson, USC | 6' 8½" | 6' 9¾" | 214.4 | 7' 4" | 9' 1" |
Danny Green, North Carolina | 6' 5¼" | 6' 6½" | 208 | 6' 10" | 8' 7" |
Blake Griffin, Oklahoma | 6' 8½" | 6' 10" | 248.4 | 6' 11¼" | 8' 9" |
Tyler Hansbrough, North Carolina | 6' 8¼" | 6' 9½" | 234.2 | 6' 11½" | 8' 10" |
Luke Harangody, Notre Dame | 6' 6¼" | 6' 8" | 240.4 | 6' 9¾" | 8' 10" |
James Harden, Arizona State | 6' 4" | 6' 5¼" | 222.0 | 6' 10¾" | 8' 7½" |
Gerald Henderson, Duke | 6' 4" | 6' 5" | 214.6 | 6' 10¼" | 8' 6½" |
Josh Heytvelt, Gonzaga | 6' 10" | 6' 11" | 246.2 | 7' 1¼" | 9' 0" |
Jordan Hill, Arizona | 6' 9¼" | 6' 10¼" | 232.4 | 7' 1½" | 9' 0" |
Jrue Holiday, UCLA | 6' 3¼" | 6' 4¼" | 199.0 | 6' 7" | 8' 4½" |
Joe Ingles, Australia | 6' 7¾" | 6' 8¼" | 209.2 | 6' 10¼" | 8' 9" |
Damion James, Texas | 6' 6¼" | 6' 7½" | 224.0 | 7' ¾" | 8' 10" |
James Johnson, Wake Forest | 6' 7" | 6' 7 ¾" | 257.2 | 7' 0¾" | 8' 9½" |
Gani Lawal, Georgia Tech | 6' 7 ¾" | 6' 9" | 229.0 | 7' 0" | 8' 10" |
Ty Lawson, North Carolina | 5' 11¼" | 6' 0½" | 198.6 | 6' 0¾" | 7' 10½" |
Eric Maynor, VCU | 6' 2¼" | 6' 3¼" | 163.6 | 6' 2½" | 8' 1" |
Jack McClinton, Miami (Fla.) | 5' 11¾" | 6' 0¾" | 185.2 | 6' 2½" | 8' 0" |
Jerel McNeal, Marquette | 6' 1½" | 6' 3" | 190.4 | 6' 7¼" | 8' 3½" |
Jodie Meeks, Kentucky | 6' 3" | 6' 4" | 211.4 | 6' 4½" | 8' 2" |
Patrick Mills, Saint Mary's | 5' 11¼" | 6' 0½" | 175.4 | 6' 2" | 7' 11" |
B.J. Mullens, Ohio State | 6' 11¾" | 7' 1¼" | 258.2 | 7' 1½" | 9' 3" |
Jeff Pendergraph, Arizona State | 6' 8¾" | 6' 10" | 239.6 | 7' 1" | 8' 11" |
A.J. Price, UConn | 6' 0½" | 6' 2" | 192.8 | 6' 3¾" | 8' 1" |
Tyler Smith, Tennessee | 6' 5¼" | 6' 6" | 212.0 | 6' 9¾" | 8' 8½" |
DaJuan Summers, Georgetown | 6' 7¼" | 6' 8½" | 243 | 7' 0¾" | 8' 10½" |
Jermaine Taylor, Central Florida | 6' 3½" | 6' 4¾" | 207.4 | 6' 8¾" | 8' 6" |
Jeff Teague, Wake Forest | 6' 0¼" | 6' 1½" | 175.2 | 6' 7½" | 8' 2½" |
Hasheem Thabeet, UConn | 7' 1¼" | 7' 2½" | 267.2 | 7' 6¼" | 9' 5" |
Marcus Thornton, LSU | 6' 2¾" | 6' 3¾" | 194.4 | 6' 5" | 8' 3" |
Greivis Vasquez, Maryland | 6' 4¾" | 6' 6" | 197.4 | 6' 7¼" | 8' 5" |
Terrence Williams, Louisville | 6' 5" | 6' 6¼" | 213.2 | 6' 9" | 8' 7¾" |
Sam Young, Pittsburgh | 6' 5¼" | 6' 6¾" | 222.8 | 6' 10¾" | 8' 9½" |
Don't say that..Originally Posted by Nowitness41Dirk
If we draft Hansbrough, I'll never post under this username again...