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The draft needs to get here, now.
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that @@#%! needs to be playing OLB for the Vikings
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I need to see some moves made now, something.
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where did you read that sac doesn't want rondo? And I liked watching brooks in the playoffs but I don't really care for him in sac... rather just keepthe pick and hope he pans out.
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Paul Harris = Dahtay Jones 2.0
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Paul Harris is awful and is no better than he was 4 years ago.
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With the draft only ten days away, NBAteams are scrambling to get a final look at as many prospects as possible in order to put the finishing touches on their draft boards. At the same time, agents are trying to give their clients' draft stock a final boost, by getting them in front of as many decision makers as possible.
With that in mind, 24 NBA teams came together this weekend in East Rutherford, New Jersey at the Nets' practice facility, to take in 36 players in six separate workouts. The prospects ranged from late lottery candidates such as Austin Daye, to likely undrafted players such as Jimmy Barron, with many borderline first rounders scattered in between. Players that were on the initial list and decided not to attend include Terrence Williams, Sam Young, Jrue Holiday, B.J. Mullens, Marcus Thornton, Tyler Hansbrough and Jon Brockman.
Besides working the players out and having them compete in three-on-three action, the players were also measured (height, wingspan, reach, hand-size) and again asked to participate in athletic combine style testing.
Here was the list of participants, including some notes from various people that were in the gym to evaluate the talent on hand:
Friday June 12th: 9:30am Session
Lester Hudson
Austin Daye
Omri Casspi
Darren Collison
Derrick Brown
Gani Lawal
Comments from observers in the gym:
"Austin Daye vs. Omri Casspi turned into a real wrestling match. Casspi just manhandled Daye, really threw him around. It was a bit disappointing to see how little Daye was able to compete from a strength perspective-Casspi is a kind of a skinny guy himself. At one point Casspi cut Daye's lip open--he had to go to hospital for stitches. The Nets should have done a better job of getting someone to call fouls. Casspi was fouling the hell out of Daye. Some of the guys were looking at each other like 'what are we watching here?'
Casspi was impressive, just like he's been everywhere he's gone. He plays hard, competes. He hit tough shots. Step-backs, runners. Then he missed some wide open J's-go figure. He hits the toughest shots, but can't always make the easiest ones. He looked like he could be a great complementary player in a 5 on 5. Definitely an atypical player for a European. "
Gani Lawal was disappointing. I'm not impressed. He should go back to school. Derrick Brown -- some really liked him, others didn't. Darren Collison looked quick, shot well. He's solid. "
Friday June 12th: 11:15am Session
Eric Maynor
Jimmy Baron
Chase Budinger
Joe Ingles
A.J. Price
Paul Harris
Comments from observers in the gym:
"Paul Harris may have helped himself the most I thought here. He plays so hard. He got in everyone's face. No one wanted to go against him. On offense and defense. On top of that, his measurements were ridiculous. He came up a bit shorter than expected-only 6-3 in shoes, but his wingspan is outrageous-6-11 ½. He's also absolutely jacked at 237 pounds, all 100% muscle. On top of that, he measured a no step vertical of 36 inches, which is off the charts. He's like Ron Artest.
"Chase Budinger was awful in my opinion. He just doesn't play. All he wants to do is shoot jumpers. That's not basketball. He didn't want to be there. Didn't want to compete. He couldn't put it on the floor. You should have seen his face when he was switched onto Paul Harris. He definitely didn't want anything to do with him. "
Saturday June 13th: 9:30am Session
Lee Cummard
DaJuan Summers
Damion James- replaced by Connor Atchley
Nick Calathes
Wes Matthews
Danny Green
Comments from observers in the gym:
"Dajuan Summers had probably the best workout here. Then again, he was going up against Connor Atchley, so that's somewhat to be expected. He absolutely killed him off the dribble. He was blowing by him, dunking on him. He had a bunch of really nice dunks. He looked good in the full-court stuff too. He was very good shooting off dribble, but not so good on the catch and shoot. He probably helped himself, but it might have impressed more people had he done it against Damion James like originally scheduled rather than Connor Atchley. You can see that he really thrives in these up-tempo settings, which is something we weren't able to see too much of at Georgetown
Nick Calathes was average. He did not shoot or finish well around the basket. Defensively he had problems-he has very little strength or length. He is obviously more of a 5 on 5 guy, even though in the 3 on 3 his court vision was very obvious. There wasn't a whole lot to get excited about here. His conditioning probably isn't where it needs to be with all the hoopla he's been through lately.
Danny Green did not have a good workout. Matthews was good, but I'm not sure he's an NBA player. Cummard didn't show much."
*Nick Calathes measurements: 6-4 ½ in shoes, 193 pounds, 6-4 ½ wingspan. Hand size 9 ¼, Standing reach 8-3, No step vert 10-1 ½, with step 10-4.
Saturday June 13th: 11:15am Session
Greivis Vasquez
Wayne Ellington
Taj Gibson
Jeff Teague
Patrick Beverley
Jermaine Taylor
Ahmad Nivins
Comments from observers in the gym:
This was a good workout. Greivis Vasquez did a very nice job. He's had strong workouts in most of the places he's been I hear. He struggled defensively a bit, especially guarding real physical guys like Jermaine Taylor, or quick guys like Teague. He competed, though, was very vocal. He raised the level of intensity. He grabbed rebounds. He shot the ball OK.
Jeff Teague didn't say a word the entire workout. He was happy to just stand around. He didn't talk to his big men, instructing them, telling them where to go. He looked a bit disinterested. If that's the leadership your point guard is showing, then I don't know. On the other hand he's obviously a phenomenal athlete. He blew by Vasquez at will. He didn't shoot that well, though.
Ellington had a really good showing, doing what he normally does. He may have been the best of the bunch actually. He's so advanced offensively. Jermaine Taylor started the workout on fire. He was hitting crazy shots, and was really helping himself. Unfortunately he hurt his hamstring and that really slowed down. His basketball IQ looked average to me. In the transition drills he was throwing passes at people's feet.
Taj Gibson did a nice job. He's just a solid all-around player. He did a little bit of everything. I'm hearing some people like him in the late first."
Sunday June 14th: 9:30am Session
Ryan Toolson
B.J. Mullens-replaced by Luke Zeller
Luke Harangody
Jack McClinton
Josh Heytvelt
Luke Nevill
Comments from observers in the gym:
"B.J. Mullens pulled out of the workout, and he was replaced at the last minute by Luke Zeller. His agent says he has a promise I heard.
Jack McClinton did very well. He can really shoot and is very quick. Unfortunately there wasn't much to see with him going up against Toolson. Josh Heytvelt was also very good. He shot the ball great. He rebounded well, and he looked tougher than advertised. He doesn't say much, but he's pretty athletic and his skill level is very good for his size. Luke Nevill was not that good in my opinion. It's tough for him to get out and guard guys. It would have been better for him if Mullens was there. He killed him in Minnesota."
Sunday June 14th: 11:15am Session
Demarre Carroll
Josh Shipp
Jeremy Pargo
Taylor Griffin
Dionte Christmas
Jimmy Barron
Comments from observers in the gym:
"DeMarre Carroll was much better than I thought. He can shoot, he can move, he can really play. He was very active. He helped himself. Josh Shipp did very well too. He was labeled as a soft guy at UCLA, but that really wasn't the case here. He battled with Pargo and Delaney, and he shot well too. Dionte Christmas just knows how to play. He was shooting great, guarding guys, moving well. Paul Delaney was the biggest disappointment to me. He couldn't make a shot. Taylor Griffin probably isn't an NBA guy, but he's a solid all-around player. "
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Don't do it.
Lowry is no more than a backup honestly. There's a reason why Conley beat him out for the starting job last season.
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"Paul Harris may have helped himself the most I thought here. He plays so hard. He got in everyone's face. No one wanted to go against him. On offense and defense. On top of that, his measurements were ridiculous. He came up a bit shorter than expected-only 6-3 in shoes, but his wingspan is outrageous-6-11 ½. He's also absolutely jacked at 237 pounds, all 100% muscle. On top of that, he measured a no step vertical of 36 inches, which is off the charts. He's like Ron Artest.
and Yall be hatin this man. Paul gonna be in the league a good 7+ yrs playin All out like he do.
He get in the right situation and work he good to go.
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Everyone knows that Paul is a physical specimen.
However, the thought of him playing the 2 is nuts.
But I guess, like someone else said, if Dahntay can do it, Paul should be able to as well.
But dude has been playing PF like forever.
I think the only person that HATES Paul is Allen,
Plus son hasn't made the brightest of moves on the court. And these individuals don't show but so much.
However, the thought of him playing the 2 is nuts.
But I guess, like someone else said, if Dahntay can do it, Paul should be able to as well.
But dude has been playing PF like forever.
I think the only person that HATES Paul is Allen,
Plus son hasn't made the brightest of moves on the court. And these individuals don't show but so much.
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guys who stick in the league without any offense, have one thing goin usually...Bball IQ.
Paul Harris might have had the worst IQ I've seen in 16 years of watching Big East Basketball.
Safe to say that off the court he's not the sharpest tool in the shed, either.
not surprised he'd test out well, he's an athletic beaset...same way DaJuan is doin by all reports. I know I don't want DaJuan on my team during areal game tho.
Paul Harris might have had the worst IQ I've seen in 16 years of watching Big East Basketball.
Safe to say that off the court he's not the sharpest tool in the shed, either.
not surprised he'd test out well, he's an athletic beaset...same way DaJuan is doin by all reports. I know I don't want DaJuan on my team during areal game tho.
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This was a good workout. Greivis Vasquez did a very nice job. He's had strong workouts in most of the places he's been I hear. He struggled defensively a bit, especially guarding real physical guys like Jermaine Taylor, or quick guys like Teague. He competed, though, was very vocal. He raised the level of intensity. He grabbed rebounds. He shot the ball OK.
this fool better turn his %*@ around and come back to school. i'm gonna be on suicide watch today...
im not you
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Paul Harris is a specimen...6'11 wingspan for a 6'3 dude is crazy.
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/DaJuan-Summers-1198/
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/DaJuan-Summers-1198/
Dajuan Summers had probably the best workout here. Then again, he was going up against Connor Atchley, so that's somewhat to be expected. He absolutely killed him off the dribble. He was blowing by him, dunking on him. He had a bunch of really nice dunks. He looked good in the full-court stuff too. He was very good shooting off dribble, but not so good on the catch and shoot. He probably helped himself, but it might have impressed more people had he done it against Damion James like originally scheduled rather than Connor Atchley. You can see that he really thrives in these up-tempo settings, which is something we weren't able to see too much of at Georgetown
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*Nick Calathes measurements: 6-4 ½ in shoes, 193 pounds, 6-4 ½ wingspan. Hand size 9 ¼, Standing reach 8-3, No step vert 10-1 ½, with step 10-4
Am I reading this right? A few paragraphs above, it said that Paul Harris had a 36 inch no-step vert....now it says Calathes has a 10-1 1/2 no step?
that can't be right, can it? Someone explain this...
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Long jump?
Chase Budinger
Well, umm that defines his collegiate career, why would his workout show anything different... Still
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Well, umm that defines his collegiate career, why would his workout show anything different... Still
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With the Finals over, Im really looking forward to the draft. Hope the offseason is interesting.
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Me too. I expect this to be probably the most busy off-season in awhile. The draft should be filled with deals.
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Chase needs a command style coach to maybe bring the best out of him.... or i envision extented stays in the 'doghouse'
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am i the only one anticipating dante and galante (sp?)
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After watching him for the last three years I have to give the biggest co-sign. Ugh.
He had better go all out here at the combine. Word in 'Cuse is that he has kids to feed. Good to see him going all out though.
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Originally Posted by LifeLessons
am i the only one anticipating dante and galante (sp?)
forgot about them, NT need to do another takeover
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He is a 1st rounder next year if he can do what Garcia did for Louisville in his last year.Originally Posted by DOWNTOWN43
this fool better turn his %*@ around and come back to school. i'm gonna be on suicide watch today...
For one, keep his mouth shut. Two, lead Maryland consistently in the ACC with patience and shoot better than 40% from the field.
He's got all the tools, but he thinks and acts like he's better than he actually is.
