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[nothingtol0se]

welcome back

 

[what up]

*cough* thanks *cough*

 

[enlightened thought]

damnit, you're back...

 

[franchise 55]

Sep 01, 2009 11:42 AM EST

Several media reports have indicated that C.J. Watson will become an unrestricted free agent next summer after taking Golden State's qualifying offer, but that is inaccurate.

Since Watson will still not have accrued four years of NBA service next summer, he will become a restricted free agent again following the 2009-10 season.

 

[acidicality]

 

[offbad]

Since Stephen Jackson went public with his trade request, Robert Rowell, who negotiated Jackson's extension, has declined interview requests.
http://realgm.com/src_wir...n_jackson_trade_request/



...... BAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

+%#+ you Rowell!

 

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[h2]Silence of the Warriors: What will Nelson, Ellis and yes, Jackson, say and when will they say it?[/h2]
Posted by Tim Kawakami on September 1st, 2009 at 2:31 pm | Categorized as NBA, Warriors

Over the last few days, since Stephen Jackson's public trade request, I've talked with several NBA sources well-versed in Warriors' lore and screwiness (almost as well-versed as me!), and here are a few consensus opinions…

1) You know the Warriors have been scrambling since last Friday to try to get Jackson on the KNBR mid-day show or to a similarly friendly correspondent to turn this into a happier, pro-Warriors, all-is-well line of conversation. (Just like they've done with Monta Ellis off-and-on through his troubles with the team.)

It's always fraudulent, but the Warriors love to do it that way because they obsess over PR and protecting Robert Rowell/Chris Cohan far more than they do about actually doing smart things that lead to successful basketball.

At the least, I'm sure the Warriors wanted to produce a bland statement from SJax that the homers could use to proclaim that it was all a large misunderstanding.

Fascinating that nothing of the sort has come from Jackson yet.

I don't know if SJax will keep to his trade stand by the time he has to report to training camp (assuming he's still a Warrior), but so far it's obvious that, at this point, he's not eager to play PR-spin with the Warriors just to make them feel better.

2) Fascinating, also, that we haven't heard a peep from Don Nelson on this matter.

Don and I are no longer on Maui-to-mainland terms, but you know if Nelson had something to say about Jackson's desire to leave, especially if Nelson wanted to step up to defend Rowell and the franchise, his voice would be heard.

To this point: No such word from Nellie.

One person who knows Nelson wondered when we might start hearing rumblings that Nelson himself is unhappy, that he wishes Baron Davis, Jason Richardson, Mickael Pietrus, Al Harrington, and hey, maybe even Chris Mullin were still around, and that SJax was on board.

(I wonder if the Warriors are now realizing that their ritual stigmatizing of Harrington, after Harrington's not-unusual troubles with Nelson, was not the wisest thing. Fault Harrington all you want for his erratic play, but he's known as a straight-shooter among players. He's a good guy. They tried to say it was all his fault, and other players know that it wasn't.)

3) The big flashpoint, as always: Monta Ellis. Silence from him, of course, as usual.

But Jackson noted that he has been hanging around with Ellis this summer. I heard that Ellis was disappointed in SJax's pro-management talk last season as Ellis and Cohan/Rowell went face to face, literally-but SJax was being nice in order to get his extension and, I think, tried for a few weeks to actually follow the company line.

Which is almost impossible to do for very long, if you have a soul. Once Jackson and Nelson butted heads early in the season, the beautiful relationship was done.

Now that it's almost 2009-2010, do you think Ellis and Jackson are telling each other how great things are in Warriorsland? Doubtful.

Larry Riley felt it important enough to placate Ellis that he brought Nelson with him to meet with Ellis before the draft, and the results were tepid, at best.

The Warriors promised Ellis that he would be their centerpiece backcourt player, then they drafted Stephen Curry-and while Riley maintained the premise that Ellis was still their main man with the ball, Nelson immediately vaulted Curry to point-guard stardom.

4) What about Robert Rowell, architect of so much Warriors greatness… err… I mean stupidity?

He nudged out an official statement about Jackson with Riley's name on it, but so far nothing from the team colussus.

Nothing from the man who personally negotiated the Jackson extension, bragged about it, and said he did it because Jackson was the first Warrior player to come to him and say he wanted to retire as a Warrior?

I guess when you've been bamboozled, and can't deny that you've been bamboozled, even team presidents have to stay silent. Well, only the ones who can't explain why they did what they did without sounding neurotic and weak.

5) At some point, I will make it a goal to get Chris Cohan to say something, anything, even if it's just about the weather.

Or about him selling the franchise. So far, for the last many years of disrepair, Cohan has said nothing, which is exactly what his ownership tenure has been worth to Warriors fans.

 

[androoow]

the #%^$ are the warriors doing...

 

[ady2glude707]

I love how writers are making Rowell look like the tool he is.

When Stephen Jackson laughed in the Golden State Warriors' face with a megaphone last Friday -- about 2,500 miles away from team headquarters, in New York at a promotional event for his sneaker company that became more about self-promotion -- the ineptitude of a management team was crystallized like never before.

That was the real Jackson announcement: The Golden State power structure of owner Chris Cohan and president Robert Rowell can be toyed with. The message just happened to be delivered via an unexpected trade request.

Relocation demands happen to most every team. Venting in a moment of frustration over wanting a championship that's in the squinting distance happens to most every team. And bad contracts happen to most every team. But this was different because it was Jackson and because it was the Warriors.

First, Jackson. He owed them more. Golden State -- the people and coach Don Nelson's system -- helped rehabilitate an image that seemed in disrepair when he arrived from Indiana in January 2007 as part of a trade for Troy Murphy and Mike Dunleavy. The Pacers were ready to dump him by a road side, but the Warriors made him a captain and promoted him for community-service awards. The Nets, Spurs, Hawks and Pacers kept him two full seasons max, and the Suns and Grizzlies cut him before a single appearance, but the Warriors unnecessarily handed over an extension in November 2008, two seasons before he would become a free agent.

Some payback, his Friday in New York. Jackson was asked by an emcee at the shoe event whether Golden State would make the playoffs, the sort of underhand-softball question common at such gatherings to get the celebs chatting with fans without having to break a sweat. According to Dime Magazine, Jackson replied, "Um ... I don't think I'll be a Warrior next season. I'm looking to leave."

But thanks for the three-year extension on the books for $8.45 million in '10-11, $9.26 million in '11-12 and $10.06 million in '12-13. Suckers.

The Warriors had previously spent foolishly for Adonal Foyle, Derek Fisher, Murphy, Dunleavy and Corey Maggette, especially Foyle, Fisher and Maggette. They didn't spend to keep Baron Davis last summer, understandable given the price tag and injury history, except it led to his surprising departure for the Clippers and to Golden State's losing its point guard and emotional leader for nothing.

All of which would have been bad enough if former personnel boss Chris Mullin was not in the unemployment line in large part because of Cohan's and Rowell's frustration at the string of bad contracts. There were other reasons. They considered Mullin too player friendly, particularly when he stuck up for Monta Ellis a year ago as Rowell wanted to dispense some hard discipline once it was learned Ellis suffered a serious ankle injury riding a moped in violation of his contract. They would have liked Mullin to be more accessible to the media and, by extension, the public. Largely, though, it was the bloated contracts on Mullin's watch that prompted the big bosses to take a greater role in personnel decisions.

Next thing you know, they extended Jackson's contract. That was Rowell's move while Mullin was relegated to a figurehead in '08-09. In the press release announcing the deal, Jackson was quoted as saying, "This organization has put me in a position to succeed and, for that, I will be forever grateful."

Forever, nine months. Same thing.

Bad decision on top of bad decision on top of bad decision. With the Jackson deal, though, the blame couldn't be assigned to Mullin or successor Larry Riley. It was Rowell, who wrongly felt Jackson was a foundation piece, and Cohan, who has been the common thread through all the losing and roster turnover.

Rowell declined an interview request. The Warriors instead released a statement Monday from Riley.

"Stephen Jackson has been a true professional since arriving here three seasons ago, and our expectations of him have not changed despite his recent comments," Riley said. "He's been one of our most consistent and productive players during that time. We expect that same display of professionalism as we begin to prepare for training camp and the start of the upcoming regular season.

"As far as his remarks on playing for a championship ... that's not the first time we've heard it because that's the goal that he sets for himself and his teammates every season. That's the type of confidence that he exudes as a player and the reason that he has endeared himself to our fans. That's who Stephen Jackson is.

"We have always understood his desire to contend with the NBA's best; that's an aspiration that is shared by our entire organization. We will continue in our quest to achieve that goal, and to be aggressive in pursuit of those results."

The best the Warriors can do now is hope Jackson walks his comments back at some point in the very near future, but even that will be too late. Desperate for a drama-free year, they just lost it before the season even started. Training camp will open with questions about his future in Oakland, if he's still there then, to be followed by more questions when the first four-game losing streak comes, to be followed by more questions the first sign that Captain Jack, turnover-prone in his focused moments, has really checked out. If a player is doing a slow burn in late August, imagine the places his mind can go in the heat of the season.

He just took Rowell and the Warriors to the hole. Jackson flirted enough to get the extension, then came clean that he doesn't think they can win. It's not an original thought, but it is an original approach: Just come right out and announce management is to be toyed with.

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20...-cooper/09/01/jackson.warriors/#ixzz0Py0fADOM

 

[franchise 55]

[h1]Is C.J. Watson Coming to His Senses?[/h1]
Posted Sep 02, 2009 6:00AM By Matt Steinmetz (RSS feed)

Filed Under: Warriors, NBA Rumors, FanHouse Exclusive

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Pretty soon, we're going to find out if C.J. Watson is a gambler or not. Apparently, Watson is considering making a very bold move, and quite risky, too.

Various reports have Watson poised to sign a one-year qualifying offer from the Warriors worth $1.05 million. If that's the case, it means Watson, just 19 months removed from a D-League call-up, is turning his back on a three-year, $5.4 million offer from Golden State -- with a player option for Year No. 3, no less. That's pretty gutsy.

Late Tuesday night, both Watson's agent and the Warriors confirmed there was no deal between the sides. But two days ago, Watson announced on Twitter that he was returning to the Warriors.http://

Is it possible Watson is reconsidering that three-year deal? Apparently so.

"Bottom line, unless he's called (Warriors general manager) Larry Riley directly, he hasn't made a decision yet," said Mike Higgins, Watson's agent. "He hasn't told me one way or the other. I know he's weighing both as of today (Tuesday night), as of right now."

The only logical reason for Watson to spurn that kind of money is if he believed he'd be able to get a better deal next season on the free agent market. Only one problem: Watson will be a restricted free agent again next season, a fact that has been frequently misreported.

When Higgins was asked if Watson was aware that if he takes the one-year qualifying offer he would still be a restricted free agent next season, he responded: "Yes. I've told him about 40 times."

Watson drew interest earlier in the summer from the Magic but was never given a formal offer because all indications were that the Warriors would match.

The two teams have talked sign-and-trade throughout the summer but have been unable to come up with a deal. About three weeks ago, as talks with Orlando heated up, Watson said he would rather play for the Magic than the Warriors.

At the time, Watson had an offer from the Warriors in front of him for three years, $4.5 million. In the past week, the Warriors actually sweetened that deal and included the opt-out clause in the final year. Let's be honest, for a player such as Watson to leave almost $4.5 million on the table ... that sure seems like a head-scratcher.

"He hasn't come to any conclusion yet," Higgins said. "He's just weighing his options, trying to figure out if Golden State is the best place for him going forward. It's not years, money or anything like this. But he looks at their roster. They drafted (Stephen) Curry. They've got five point guards.

"So I just think he's trying to see where he fits with the Warriors. Not just with point guards but guards in general who will factor in somehow. He hasn't made any decision one way or the other."

Watson had a nice year for the Warriors in 2008-09, taking advantage of bonus playing time he received because of injuries. Watson, who averaged 9.5 points ppg., played 24 minutes per game last season, no doubt aided by injuries to Monta Ellis, Marco Belinelli and Jamal Crawford.

There is no assurance Watson will have as big of a role for the Warriors this year as he did last season. If Ellis is healthy, he's going to play a lot of minutes. There's Curry, who is certain to get plenty of playing time. And don't forget, as of late last season, Warriors coach Don Nelson said he wanted to play Stephen Jackson more at his customary two-spot.

 

[dont be a menace]

Originally Posted by FRANCHISE 55

Sep 01, 2009 11:42 AM EST

Several media reports have indicated that C.J. Watson will become an unrestricted free agent next summer after taking Golden State's qualifying offer, but that is inaccurate.

Since Watson will still not have accrued four years of NBA service next summer, he will become a restricted free agent again following the 2009-10 season.

Originally Posted by Enlightened Thought

damnit, you're back...

 

[TheGodFresco]

Foyle was on chronicle live spitting THE TRUTH!!!

Dude could be a color commentator or nba analysis guy.

 

[livemyreality]

Originally Posted by GSDOUBLEU

Foyle was on chronicle live spitting THE TRUTH!!!

Dude could be a color commentator or nba analysis guy.

He could do something far greater than those jobs. This man is smart.

 

[TheGodFresco]

Originally Posted by LiveMyReality

Originally Posted by GSDOUBLEU

Foyle was on chronicle live spitting THE TRUTH!!!

Dude could be a color commentator or nba analysis guy.

He could do something far greater than those jobs. This man is smart.

Next President of USA

 

[franchise 55]

Originally Posted by GSDOUBLEU

Originally Posted by LiveMyReality

Originally Posted by GSDOUBLEU

Foyle was on chronicle live spitting THE TRUTH!!!

Dude could be a color commentator or nba analysis guy.

He could do something far greater than those jobs. This man is smart.

Next President of USA

Doesn't meet the qualifications.

 

[paul is on tilt]

Here's a picture I had saved on my computer for some reason.

 

[franchise 55]

CJ Watson blocked me on Twitter.

I didn't even do anything. I just asked him about his contract status.

Edit: Here is what I wrote:
@quietstorm_32 I've heardreports you're going to take the qualifying offer, but now I hear you're having second thoughts. True?

Blocked! lmao

 

[paul is on tilt]

C.J. Watson. Dude's a punk!

 

[boys noize]

I hope he gets no burn this season and ends up fading into obscurity.

 

[japanair21]

So, Nellie is going to Dallas for the weekend..

 

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Dude just wants to play, can't be mad at that. The Warriors have screwed over so many players and he had a real opportunity to play for a winner in Orlando(who offered a good trade, if the reports are true). I'll be the first to say that I don't like his game (for the Warriors), but who would want to ridethe bench of a horrible organization, especially if he could get consistent minutes for a contender.

 

[franchise 55]

Hopefully it's a one way flight.

 

[chr1scross]

I can finally watch Rated-R movies

if the team was sold today, it'd be my best bday evaaaaaar

 

[japanair21]

You're only 17? Hot damn, HBD.

 

[franchise 55]

Happy Birthday, Youngin.