entry level luxury cars.... EDIT: I DO NOT want one. just want people's opinion.

[PRIME]

what luxury feature does a bare bones 528i have that a fully loaded CHEAPER SRT8 doesn't have?

Youre really something else. Its like you choose to be completely ignorant.




Youre obviously not stupid fam, stop acting like it.

Maybe he's never sat in one. But from experience of sitting in both, theres a clear difference.

i've sat in both, son is DANCING AROUND DA ANSWER



imma say it ONE MORE TIME, what luxury features does a BASE MODEL 528i have that a FULLY LOADED SRT8 charger doesn't have? especially since it cost more money.



im still waiting.

Son, you're dying of thirst right now.



Outside of the fact that the baseline model comes with that leatherette ****, the whole interior trim of the car is just nicer.



The fact that you're sitting here trying to justify why a domestically built car is cheaper than an imported branded "luxury" car for what you get, even if its a base model is laughable.



There is no bad reason why a person would prefer the BMW over the Charger. The BMW DOES have more of a luxury feel, ride, and presence to it. The whole ******g design is more elegant than the Charger fam. The charger is aggressive and boxy, while the BMW is more sleek and reserved.



I can't define luxury to you bruh. I'm sorry if you can't identify it.

Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!

Lets not forget how the Corvette Stingray is 70,000 euro's...




...For the base model....



While in the US its $51,000....



I can count a lot of euro cars for that price that come with more than the stingray...

this is BLATANTLY WRONG... da SRT8 comes STANDARD with electronically controlled dampers so you


can ride as buttoned down or as luxury plush as you want you gotta go ALLL da way up trim to get that....that 528i doesn't have


have real leather as a standard feature.

Do you know that cause you've driven/been a passenger in both?

Or cause you read that **** online? I've been in both while they were moving fam. Yeah, the Charger ain't no slouch, and I would take that **** over the 528i too, but still. Ride in both, then get back to me. Even if the BMW isn't the MOST luxurious **** you've been in, it has a different feel than that Charger. No matter how top of the line the Charger is.

I can name like 100 features a fully loaded Camry has that the R/T Charger doesn't...


 

A.

 yes i have been in both WHILE they're moving, im in da heightz, i got alot on enterprising friends who own both.

B. da camry is FWD, it doesn't compare to a dodge charger.

car and driver themselves SAYS da charger rides JUST like a 5 series, so imma gonna keep asking till someone gives me da answer,

what luxury features does a base model 528i which cost more have that a fully loaded SRT8 dodge charger which cost less doesn't have?

So since the Camry is FWD we can't talk about features that come with the car?
So the fact that they are close in price, and the Camry comes with more means NOTHING because of its FWD?

Ok boss... Whatever you say

I'm out of this thread

 

[americangenius]

Chilllllll. He's in automotive school!

 

[ninjahood]

what luxury feature does a bare bones 528i have that a fully loaded CHEAPER SRT8 doesn't have?

Youre really something else. Its like you choose to be completely ignorant.




Youre obviously not stupid fam, stop acting like it.

Maybe he's never sat in one. But from experience of sitting in both, theres a clear difference.

i've sat in both, son is DANCING AROUND DA ANSWER

imma say it ONE MORE TIME, what luxury features does a BASE MODEL 528i have that a FULLY LOADED SRT8 charger doesn't have? especially since it cost more money.



im still waiting.

Son, you're dying of thirst right now.



Outside of the fact that the baseline model comes with that leatherette ****, the whole interior trim of the car is just nicer.



The fact that you're sitting here trying to justify why a domestically built car is cheaper than an imported branded "luxury" car for what you get, even if its a base model is laughable.



There is no bad reason why a person would prefer the BMW over the Charger. The BMW DOES have more of a luxury feel, ride, and presence to it. The whole ******g design is more elegant than the Charger fam. The charger is aggressive and boxy, while the BMW is more sleek and reserved.



I can't define luxury to you bruh. I'm sorry if you can't identify it.

Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!

Lets not forget how the Corvette Stingray is 70,000 euro's...




...For the base model....



While in the US its $51,000....



I can count a lot of euro cars for that price that come with more than the stingray...

this is BLATANTLY WRONG... da SRT8 comes STANDARD with electronically controlled dampers so you


can ride as buttoned down or as luxury plush as you want you gotta go ALLL da way up trim to get that....that 528i doesn't have


have real leather as a standard feature.

Do you know that cause you've driven/been a passenger in both?

Or cause you read that **** online? I've been in both while they were moving fam. Yeah, the Charger ain't no slouch, and I would take that **** over the 528i too, but still. Ride in both, then get back to me. Even if the BMW isn't the MOST luxurious **** you've been in, it has a different feel than that Charger. No matter how top of the line the Charger is.

I can name like 100 features a fully loaded Camry has that the R/T Charger doesn't...


 

A.

 yes i have been in both WHILE they're moving, im in da heightz, i got alot on enterprising friends who own both.

B. da camry is FWD, it doesn't compare to a dodge charger.

car and driver themselves SAYS da charger rides JUST like a 5 series, so imma gonna keep asking till someone gives me da answer,

what luxury features does a base model 528i which cost more have that a fully loaded SRT8 dodge charger which cost less doesn't have?

So since the Camry is FWD we can't talk about features that come with the car?

So the fact that they are close in price, and the Camry comes with more means NOTHING because of its FWD?
 

FWD vs RWD is a HUGE difference, so yes da RWD has da upper advantage.

hell RWD IS a feature, take a gander at youtube for RWD VS FWD pros & cons, and its no contest.

when was da last time toyota offered a RWD passenger sedan...oh yeah, they're called lexus.

so i guess no of ya gonna tell me what luxury features does a base model 528i which cost more have that a fully loaded SRT8 dodge charger which

cost less doesn't have huh?

 

[Thats My Word]

How are two mid sized family sedans in the same price range not comparable?

 

[SneakerProSr.]

These arguments would be so much more productive if yall could post some evidence as opposed to presenting your opinion as fact.

 

[ninjahood]

These arguments would be so much more productive if yall could post some evidence as opposed to presenting your opinion as fact.

aye im all for those facts which are readily available online which is why im still waiting on da answer to my question.

what luxury features does a base model 528i which cost more have that a fully loaded SRT8 dodge charger which cost less doesn't have?

?

 

[af1 1982]

At the end of the day 95% of NTers are arguing about cars they can't afford.

We can talk about "oh yeah, wait t until I get my car" but that doesn't mean **** until you get it

 

[af1 1982]

At the end of the day, the bang for your buck argument is stupid. People are going to buy what they want, no matter if there are better options out there.

So you can get a car with 100 more HP and more features for less. WHO CARES? at the end of the day, none of us have the right to criticize someone on what they did with their money. I'll be damned if someone did was talking about MY money that I grinded for.

 

[SneakerProSr.]

These arguments would be so much more productive if yall could post some evidence as opposed to presenting your opinion as fact.

aye im all for those facts which are readily available online which is why im still waiting on da answer to my question.

what luxury features does a base model 528i which cost more have that a fully loaded SRT8 dodge charger which cost less doesn't have?

?

Wood grain dash, IDK.

 

[ninjahood]

These arguments would be so much more productive if yall could post some evidence as opposed to presenting your opinion as fact.

aye im all for those facts which are readily available online which is why im still waiting on da answer to my question.

what luxury features does a base model 528i which cost more have that a fully loaded SRT8 dodge charger which cost less doesn't have?

?

Wood grain dash, IDK.

REAL wood? thats it...? try again

here's da standard features..

Performance and efficiency
2.0-liter BMW TwinPower Turbo inline 4-cylinder, 16-valve 240-hp engine; combines a twin-scroll turbocharger with variable valve control (Double-VANOS and Valvetronic) and high-precision direct injection	Direct ignition system with knock control
Electronically controlled engine cooling (map cooling)	Auto Start-Stop function
Brake Energy Regeneration system	Driving Dynamics Control with ECO PRO mode
8-speed STEPTRONIC automatic transmission with Sport and Manual shift modes and Adaptive Transmission Control (ATC)

Handling, ride and braking
Twin-tube gas-pressure shock absorbers	4-wheel ventilated anti-lock disc brakes (ABS) with composite front rotors and Dynamic Brake Control (DBC), and brake-pad wear indicators
Vehicle-speed-sensitive variable-assist (Servotronic), variable-ratio power steering	Dynamic Stability Control (DSC), including Brake Fade Compensation, Start-off Assistant, Brake Drying, and Brake Stand-by features; with Dynamic Traction Control (DTC)

Exterior and aerodynamics
V Spoke (Style 236) 17 x 8.0 light alloy wheels; 225/55 rear run-flat[sup]1[/sup] all-season tires[sup]2[/sup]	Xenon Adaptive Headlights with dynamic auto-leveling, LED Corona headlight-rings and Cornering Lights
Rain-sensing windshield wipers with adjustable speed	Power adjustable, heated, folding, body-color side-view mirrors

Interior seating and trim
10-way power-adjustable driver's and front passenger's seat with 4-way lumbar support, and memory system for driver's seat, steering wheel and outside mirrors	Sensatec upholstery
Dark Wood interior trim	Open storage compartments in all doors and front seatback storage
Fold-up rear seat center armrest	Split fold-down rear seats
Floormats

Comfort and convenience
Engine Start/Stop button with Keyless-go feature	2-way power moonroof with remote, expanded "one-touch" operation, anti-trapping feature, and sliding interior sunshade
Power windows with key-off and "one touch" up and down operation both front and rear, anti-trapping feature, opening from remote, and closing from exterior lock	2-zone automatic climate control for driver and front passenger
Micro-filter ventilation system with replaceable active-charcoal filters	Automatic tilt-down of passenger's side-view mirror (when car is shifted into reverse gear)
Automatic-dimming interior rear-view mirror and exterior side-view mirrors	Ambiance lighting
Interior courtesy lights with automatic dimming function	Front map lights and rear reading lights with separate controls for the left and right
Dual front sun visors with illuminated mirrors	Dual cupholders in front and rear
Automatic headlight on/off control	Fully finished trunk with interior and remote trunk release
Power outlet in front passenger's footwell, front center console storage compartment, rear center console, and in trunk	Additional 12-V power outlets
Glove compartment

Audio system
Anti-theft AM/FM stereo/CD audio system with Auto-Store, FMw diversity antenna system, MP3 capabilities, and 10-speaker, multichannel high-fidelity sound system incorporating an analog amplifier with 180-watt output power. The system includes 3 tweeters, 5 midrange speakers and one central bass speaker located under each front seat	HD Radio[emoji]8482[/emoji] with "multicast" FM station reception
Satellite radio preparation

Instrumentation and controls
3-spoke leather-wrapped multi-function steering wheel with controls for audio system, cruise control, and Bluetooth[emoji]174[/emoji] wireless communication for hands-free mobile phone[sup]3[/sup]	Bluetooth wireless technology for hands-free calling (with Bluetooth compatible mobile phone[sup]3[/sup]) and phonebook downloading (please visit your authorized BMW center for details on standard and optional services)
Electronic analog speedometer and tachometer	iDrive system with on-board computer and touchpad Controller, and 8 programmable memory buttons
Condition-Based Service display with additional functions accessible through iDrive system	Expanded Check Control vehicle monitor system
Tire Pressure Monitor	Rear-window defroster
BMW Navigation system with high-resolution screen; 3-D maps; 200 GB hard drive with 20 GB storage for audio files; voice feedback and Voice command system	BMW Apps
BMW Online with MyInfo (includes a 3-year subscription)	Advanced Real Time Traffic Information (includes a 3-year subscription)
BMW TeleService (includes a 10-year subscription)	Enhanced USB, Bluetooth including Audio Streaming, and Mobile Office features,[sup]4[/sup] plus Smartphone Integration; Message Dictation available with optional 3rd-party subscription
Black Panel Display	Integrated 3-button Universal garage-door opener

Safety and security
BMW's Advanced Safety System for integrated deployment of passive and active safety features	Driver's and passenger's front airbag supplemental restraint system (SRS) with advanced technology: dual-threshold, dual-stage deployment; and front-passenger seat sensors designed to prevent unnecessary airbag deployment
3-point safety belts with force limiters and head restraints at all seating positions	Active Head Restraints for driver and front passenger
Front- and rear-seat Head Protection System (HPS)	Front-seat side-impact airbags
Acoustic safety-belt warning	Front safety belts with automatic pretensioners
LATCH attachments for child-restraint safety installation	Interlocking door anchoring system to help protect against door intrusion in side impacts
Crash sensor that activates Battery Safety Terminal disconnect of alternator, fuel pump and starter from battery; automatically unlocks doors, and turns on hazard and interior lights	Anti-theft alarm system with keyhead remote operation and interior motion detector
Remote keyless entry security alarm system with selective unlocking and double-lock feature (programmed at your authorized BMW center), remote trunk opening, interior motion detector, and panic feature	Adaptive Brakelights
BMW Assist eCall[emoji]8482[/emoji] includes Emergency Request (SOS button) and Automatic Collision Notification (includes a 10-year subscription)	BMW Remote Services includes Stolen Vehicle Recovery, Remote Door Unlock and My BMW Remote app (includes a 10-year subscription)

BMW Services
BMW Ultimate Service[emoji]174[/emoji] (for complete details on BMW Ultimate Service, visit bmwusa.com/ultimateservice)	4-year/50,000-mile New Vehicle/SAV Limited Warranty
12-year Rust Perforation Limited Warranty	4-year/Unlimited Mileage Roadside Assistance Program

and you're STILL stuck with a 4 banger

 

[ninjahood]

this is what da 46k fully loaded SRT8 dodge charger comes with..
ditional Key Features

• Electronic Stability Control
• Hill Start Assist
• All Speed Traction Control
• Advanced Multistage Front Airbags
• Supplemental Side-Curtain Front and Rear Airbags
• Auto-Dimming Rearview Mirror w/ Microphone
• Keyless Enter-N-Go (TM)
• Remote Proximity Keyless Entry
• Sentry Key[emoji]174[/emoji] Theft Deterrent System
• A/C Auto Temperature Control with Dual Zone Control
• Power Front Windows w/ 1-Touch Up and Down Feature
• Fog Lamps
• Remote Start System
• High Speed Engine Controller
• Heated / Cooled Front Console Cup Holder
• Driver's Auto-Dimming Exterior Mirror
• Power Heated Memory Mirrors with Manual Fold-Away
• Memory for Radio, Driver Seat and Mirrors
• Power Tilt / Telescoping Steering Column
• Power Adjustable Pedals with Memory
• Sport Mode 2
• Universal Garage Door Opener
• Dual Bright Exhaust Tips
• Low Beam HID Headlamps
• Ready Alert Braking
• Brake Assist
• Color Electronic Veh Info Ctr w/Reconfigure Display
• Rain Brake Support
• 3-Mode Electronic Stability Control
• Anti-Lock 4-Wheel Disc Performance Brakes
• Leather-Wrapped Shift Knob
• SRT[emoji]174[/emoji] Performance Pages
• Auto Adjust-in-Reverse Exterior Mirrors
• Black Grille
• Functional Hood Scoop
• Heated Steering Wheel
• Adaptive Damping
• SRT[emoji]174[/emoji] Track Experience - drivesrt.com To Register.
• Red Brake Calipers
• Dark Engine Turn Aluminum Interior

Engine/Transmission

• 6.4-Liter V8 HEMI[emoji]174[/emoji] Eng w/Fuel Saver Technology
• 5-Speed Automatic Transmission
• Steering Wheel Mounted Paddle Shifters
• AutoStick[emoji]174[/emoji] Automatic Transmission
• 3.06 Rear Axle Ratio

Multimedia

• Uconnect[emoji]174[/emoji] 8.4N AM/FM/SAT/NAV
• 8.4-Inch Touch Screen Display
• Garmin[emoji]174[/emoji] Navigation System
• ParkView[emoji]8482[/emoji] Rear Back-Up Camera
• Uconnect[emoji]174[/emoji] Voice Command with Bluetooth[emoji]174[/emoji]
• Bluetooth[emoji]174[/emoji] Streaming Audio
• Steering Wheel Mounted Audio Controls
• Audio Jack Input for Mobile Devices
• Remote USB Port
• SiriusXM Satellite Radio w/ 1-Yr Radio Subscription
• SiriusXM Travel Link[emoji]8482[/emoji]/1Yr Travel Link Subscription
• SiriusXM Traffic[emoji]8482[/emoji] / 1-Year Traffic Service
• 1-Year SiriusXM Radio Service

Seating

• Performance Perforated Leather Seats
• Heated Front Seats
• Ventilated Front Seats
• Power Front Driver and Passenger Seats
• Driver / Passenger Power 4-Way Lumbar Adjust
• Reactive Head Restraints
• Heated Second-Row Seats
• Rear 60 / 40 Folding Seat
• Rear Armrest with Cup Holder Seat
• Illuminated Rear Cup Holders

Wheels/Tires

• 20-Inch x 9.0-Inch Aluminum SRT[emoji]174[/emoji] Design Wheels
• 245/45ZR20 All Season Performance Tires
• Tire Pressure Monitoring Display

EPA est. MPG

• 14 city/23 hwy

Interior & ExteriorAdditional Features

• "6.4L HEMI" Badge

• "Charger" Badge

• "SRT8" Badge

• 1-Year SiriusXM Radio Service

• 1-Year SiriusXM Traffic[emoji]8482[/emoji] Service

• 1-Year SiriusXM Travel Link Service

• 12-Volt Center Console Power Outlet

• 180-MPH Primary Speedometer

 

• 19.1-Gallon Fuel Tank

• 220-Amp Alternator

• 3-Mode Electronic Stability Control

 

• 6.4-Liter Engine Cover

• 730-Amp Maintenance Free Battery

• Adaptive Damping

• Air Filtering

• Anti-Lock 4-Wheel Disc Performance Brakes

• Audio Jack Input for Mobile Devices

• Auto Adjust-in-Reverse Exterior Mirrors

• Auto-Dimming Rearview Mirror w/ Microphone

• Automatic Headlamps

• AutoStick[emoji]174[/emoji] Automatic Transmission

• Black Grille

• Black Headlamp Bezels

 

• Bluetooth[emoji]174[/emoji] Streaming Audio

• Body-Color Door Handles

• Body-Color Fascias

• Brake / Park Interlock

• Brake Assist

• Bright Pedals

• Capless Fuel Filler

• Cargo Compartment Dress-Up

• Cargo Net

• Cell Phone Storage

• Center High-Mount Stop Lamp

• Center Rear 3-Point Seat Belt

• Child Seat Upper Tether Anchorages

• Color Electronic Veh Info Ctr w/Reconfigure Display

• Compass Gauge

• Dark Engine Turn Aluminum Interior

• Deck LidLiner

 

• Delete Spare Tire

• Driver / Passenger Power 4-Way Lumbar Adjust

• Driver and Passenger Lower LED Lamps

• Driver's Auto-Dimming Exterior Mirror

• Dual Bright Exhaust Tips

• Dual Note Electric Horns

• Dual Rear Exhaust

• Electronic Stability Control

 

• Engine Oil Cooler

• Exterior Mirrors with Heating Element

• Floor Carpet

• Fog Lamps

• Front / Rear Climate Control Outlets

• Front and Rear Floor Mats

• Front and Rear LED Map Pockets

• Front Overhead LED Lighting

• Front Passenger Seat Belt Alert

• Front Reading / Map Lamps

• Full-Length Floor Console

• Functional Hood Scoop

• Garmin[emoji]174[/emoji] Navigation System

• Glove Box Lamp

 

• Heated / Cooled Front Console Cup Holder

• Heated Steering Wheel

• Height-Adjustable Front Shoulder Belts

• High Beam Daytime Running Headlamps

• High Perform Suspension

• High Speed Engine Controller

• Hill Start Assist

• Humidity Sensor

• Hydraulic Assist Brake Booster

• Illuminated Front Cup Holders

• Illuminated Rear Assist Handles

• Illuminated Rear Cup Holders

• Inside Emergency Trunk Lid Release

• Instrument Cluster with Display Screen

• Instrument Panel

• Keyless Enter-N-Go (TM)

• Knock Back Mitigation

• Leather Trim Seats

• Leather-Wrapped Shift Knob

• Low Beam HID Headlamps

• Lower Body Side Body-Color Cladding

• Memory for Radio, Driver Seat and Mirrors

 

• Outside Temperature Display

• ParkSense[emoji]174[/emoji] Rear Park Assist System

• ParkView[emoji]8482[/emoji] Rear Back-Up Camera

• Passenger Assist Handles

• Performance Tuned Steering

• Power Accessory Delay

• Power Adjustable Pedals with Memory

• Power Tilt / Telescoping Steering Column

• Rain Brake Support

• Reactive Head Restraints

• Ready Alert Braking

• Rear 60 / 40 Folding Seat

• Rear Armrest with Cup Holder Seat

• Rear Body-Color Spoiler

• Rear Door Child Protection Locks

• Rear Reading / Courtesy Lamps

• Rear Window Defroster

• Red Brake Calipers

• Remote Fuel Door Release

• Remote Proximity Keyless Entry

• Remote Start System

• Remote USB Port

 

• Security Alarm

• Sentry Key[emoji]174[/emoji] Theft Deterrent System

• Severe Duty II Engine Cooling

• SiriusXM Travel Link[emoji]8482[/emoji]/1Yr Travel Link Subscription

• Speed Control

• Sport Mode 2

• Sport Mode 3

• SRT[emoji]174[/emoji] Leather-Wrapped Steering Wheel

• SRT[emoji]174[/emoji] Performance Pages

• SRT[emoji]174[/emoji] Track Experience - drivesrt.com To Register.

• Steering Wheel Mounted Paddle Shifters

• Sun Visors with Illuminated Vanity Mirrors

• Tip Start

• Tire Pressure Monitoring Display

• Tire Service Kit

• Trunk Lamp

• Uconnect[emoji]174[/emoji] Voice Command with Bluetooth[emoji]174[/emoji]

• Universal Garage Door Opener

• Variable Intermittent Windshield Wipers

• Ventilated Front Seats

Climate Control Options

• A/C Auto Temperature Control with Dual Zone Control

Exterior Paint Procedures

• Monotone Paint

Glass

• Acoustic Front Door Glass

• Acoustic Windshield

• Front and Rear Solar Control Glass

• Solar Control Glass

GVWR Packages

• GVW Rating - 5,350 Pounds

Mirrors

• Body-Color Exterior Mirrors

• Power Heated Memory Mirrors with Manual Fold-Away

Sound System Components

• 8.4-Inch Touch Screen Display

• For More Information, Call 888-539-7474

• Integrated Window Antenna

• SiriusXM Satellite Radio w/ 1-Yr Radio Subscription

• SiriusXM Traffic[emoji]8482[/emoji] / 1-Year Traffic Service

• Steering Wheel Mounted Audio Controls

Speaker Systems

• 276-Watt Amplifier

• 6 Premium Speakers

 Tires

• 245/45ZR20 All Season Performance Tires

 Wheels 

• 20-Inch x 9.0-Inch Aluminum SRT[emoji]174[/emoji] Design Wheels

PerformanceEngine

• 6.4-Liter V8 HEMI[emoji]174[/emoji] Eng w/Fuel Saver Technology

Transmission

• 5-Speed Automatic Transmission

Safety & SecurityConvenience/Security Options

• Advanced Multistage Front Airbags

• Heated Front Seats

• Heated Second-Row Seats

• Power Front Driver and Passenger Seats

• Power Front Windows w/ 1-Touch Up and Down Feature

• Power Trunk Lid Release

• Speed Sensitive Power Locks

• Supplemental Front Seat-Mounted Side Airbags

• Supplemental Side-Curtain Front and Rear Airbags

Dimensions & CapacitiesExterior Dimensions

• Ground Clearance - at curb weight - Running Ground Clearance:4.3

• Overall Body Width:74.2

• Overall Height - Without Roof Rack:58.2

• Overall Length:200.3

• Track - Front:63.4

• Track - Rear:63.1

• Turning Diameter - curb-to-curb - Left:37.7

• Turning Diameter - curb-to-curb - Right:37.7

• Wheelbase:120.2

Interior Dimensions

• Cargo Capacity - Behind Second-Row Seat:16.3

• Head Room - Front:38.6

• Head Room - Rear:37.9

• Hip Room - Front:56.2

• Hip Room - Rear:56.1

• Leg Room - Front:41.8

• Leg Room - Rear:40.1

• Passenger Interior Volume:106.3

• Seating Capacity - Maximum Seating:5

• Seating Capacity - Standard Seating:5

• Shoulder Room - Front:59.5

• Shoulder Room - Rear:57.7

• Trunk Lift-Over Height:30.1

Capacities/Weights

• Base Curb Weight - Automatic Trans:4365

• Capacity/Weights - Fuel Tank Capacity:19.1

• Towing Capacity - Maximum:Not Recommended

• Towing Capacity - Standard:Not Recommended

• Weight Distribution - Automatic Trans - Front :54.0

• Weight Distribution - Automatic Trans - Rear:46.0

Basics

• Brakes - Frontisc

• Brakes - Rearisc

• Driveline Configuration:RWD

• EPA Classification:Large Car

• Maximum Number of Doors:4

• Steering:Rack & Pinion

• Suspension - Front:Ind

• Suspension - Rear:5-Link

• Tires - Aspect Ratio:45

• Tires - Construction:ZR

• Tires - Spare Tire Type:Tire Kit

• Tires - Type

• Tires - Wheel Diameter:20.0

• Tires - Width:245

• Tops - Standard Top:HF

• Vehicle Type:Mid-Rng Prem

Mobility

• Body Opening Width :32.9

• Open Door Angle:78

• Open Door Trim to Body:35.2

• Seat Cushion Height from Ground:22.7

• Seat Cushion to Rocker Panel:9.9

• Step-Out Height :4.2

• Step-Out Width:6.8

• Step-Over Height from Ground:14.9

Warranty

• Basic - Miles:36,000

• Basic - Months:36

• Powertrain - Miles:100,000

• Powertrain - Months:60

• Roadside Assistance - Miles:100,000

• Roadside Assistance - Months:60

• Rust-Through - Miles:100,000

• Rust-Through - Months:60

you get every damn bell and whistle for less money, and a beast of a engine to boot.

 

[sooperhooper]

All you really need to understand Ninjahood

I feel genuinely bad for your mom; she literally asked you for her space and told you the apartment is too small for all those shoes

The look of frustration on mom's face says it all. And son is dead-*** sitting there trying to justify having 300+ kicks and his mom needs more space. HOARDERS NT Edition. Son was struggling for reasons why a car is a bad investment "I have to keep it looking good" I'm not knockimg dude for not wanting to get a vehicle b/c it's not a necessity in his location, but continuing to buy shoes behind moms back when she's already expressing concerns about needing more space is simply inconsiderate.

 

[air spider 777]

Some people dont want a SRT Ninja. To some people that is not their style. Most do not want to deal with the terrible mpg a Hemi has. Plus when you buy a bimmer isnt the first 3 years of maint. included? Just like you are an american car guy, there are people who like luxury brand european cars.

This constant telling of how people should spend their money by multiple members in here is ridiculous.

 

[ninjahood]

Some people dont want a SRT Ninja. To some people that is not their style. Most do not want to deal with the terrible mpg a Hemi has.

da hemi shuts off 4 if its 8 clyinders when its being driven Conservatively,

and as you can see by da FACTS, da SRT comes with more luxury features that a base model luxury 5 series, all while giving you

a WHOLE lot more for a whole lot less money.

da more you boil it down to da facts, da most da final answer comes from something that doesn't attribute itself with logic= badge flossing.

 

[sniper]

A.

 yes i have been in both WHILE they're moving, im in da heightz, i got alot on enterprising friends who own both.

B. da camry is FWD, it doesn't compare to a dodge charger.

car and driver themselves SAYS da charger rides JUST like a 5 series, so imma gonna keep asking till someone gives me da answer,

what luxury features does a base model 528i which cost more have that a fully loaded SRT8 dodge charger which cost less doesn't have?

Chapter 1: Paying with Monopoly Money

I guess I'll address this as it's clear you're what I've always referred to you as.................a 'brochure' enthusiast.
(Considering you pick & choose what you like to respond to as the posts you dismiss completely obliterate the filth coming from your keyboard, I'm assuming this will be easy. Basically, you go for scraps as they're the easiest to refute.)

If you want to talk luxury, we can discuss the F10's much better weight distribution while having an elongated frame reminiscent to that of the higher-end F01. (i.e. They share the same platform.) This might be difficult for you to digest, but luxury isn't based on how fast you can go nor how many gadgets & trinkets you have. So you've said leather isn't standard 2-3 times already? We get it. If you would've actually been in one with leatherette, you'd notice that it does not feel cheap nor fit outside of BMW's reputation. If Coral Red leather came in leatherette, I'd have no problem opting for that so your rather ancient mentality on imitation leather is skewed. Literally, BMW's goal of upholding their heritage is founded on providing effortless features within a simplistic approach...

You did a nice copy & paste, but a longer list doesn't necessarily define a better vehicle. It's what we call 'compensation'. Anyways, let's reference some of that list. You're really going to compare the refined 8-speed STEPTRONIC transmission to that of the lackluster 5-speed automatic on the SRT8? We could also go into brake regeneration, micro-filtered ventilation, etc. if you want to take that next step. More or less, you simply neglect all the intricacies as you most likely are not subjected to things of a higher (more refined) scale...

Has the 392 HEMI won any significant awards lately? I'm just posing the question as the N20 (as well as an array of other BMW Group engines) cleaned-up at the 2012 International Engine of the Year Awards. I believe it was also in Wards Top Ten of 2012 as well. Looks like your big & bulky 6.4 is fluff in the grand scheme of things...

So you're in the Heights, but there's plenty of photos/videos of you & your surroundings that appear as if you're stuck in time/poverty? Makes sense...

The only thing I can say about you is that you're consistently inconsistent. I'd take the bet that you'll be repeating this nonsensical babble in 5-years trying to influence the new batch of NTers on how to live without having any actual accomplishments of your own.

Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!

For someone that has endlessly gone on a campaign in regards to European cars in terms of poor maintenance & reliability, you certainly have not done your homework...

If you stopped skimming through the Dodge line-up pamphlet looking at basic specs', you'd realize why Charger SRT8s simply do not sell compared to their counterparts...
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[air spider 777]

da hemi shuts off 4 if its 8 clyinders when its being driven Conservatively,

and as you can see by da FACTS, da SRT comes with more luxury features that a base model luxury 5 series, all while giving you

a WHOLE lot more for a whole lot less money.

da more you boil it down to da facts, da most da final answer comes from something that doesn't attribute itself with logic= badge flossing.

Dude I am more than familiar with the Hemi. Been having one since 06. First was a 5.7 which had the mds and the mileage on it was trash. Loved the jeep but its gas mileage was ****. Now I have the 6.1 wk which doesnt have the mds. But the new 6.4's do have it unless you get a new 392 chally that is a manual, then it wont have it. I dont buy my vehicles for good mpg but please dont come in here saying a hemi gets decent gas mileage bc of mds. Real world mpg sucks. Mds is only constant when driving on stretches of road otherwise its constantly in and out, therefore being useless and doing nothing other than making a shudder sound. Which is widely known to occur.

Like I said some people dont like being in the gas station a lot.

 

[SneakerProSr.]

Some people dont want a SRT Ninja. To some people that is not their style. Most do not want to deal with the terrible mpg a Hemi has.

da hemi shuts off 4 if its 8 clyinders when its being driven Conservatively,

and as you can see by da FACTS, da SRT comes with more luxury features that a base model luxury 5 series, all while giving you

a WHOLE lot more for a whole lot less money.

da more you boil it down to da facts, da most da final answer comes from something that doesn't attribute itself with logic= badge flossing.

That MDS really only works on the highway. In city situations you do too much starting and stopping for it to kick in. Even babying the throttle I still only get 16 mpg tops in the city and 22 on the highway.

And once you get Da Hemi you ain't driving conservatively nowhere.

I average 14 mpg since I've had the car.

 

[Thats My Word]

What's the average mpg when 4 cylinders shut off?

 

[ninjahood]

did you really just compare da 5 speed to da 8 speed and some some of advantage?

go ask merc fans why da s65 still has a 5 speed (SAME ONE in da SRT8) while some of da other trims have moved to a 8 speed..

here's a hint: transmisson tolerance limit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_5G-Tronic_transmission

• 1996–1999 Mercedes-Benz W140
• 2000-2005 Mercedes-Benz W220
• 2006–Present Mercedes-Benz W221 (V12 Models only)
• 1997-2002 Mercedes-Benz W210
• 2002-2004 Mercedes-Benz W211
• 1997-2000 Mercedes-Benz W202
• 2000-2004 Mercedes-Benz W203
• 1998-2005 Mercedes-Benz W163
• 1997-2004 Mercedes-Benz W168
• 2004–Present Mercedes-Benz W169
• 2005–Present Mercedes-Benz B-Class
• 1998-2005 Mercedes-Benz R170
• 1990-2001 Mercedes-Benz R129
• 2001–Present Mercedes-Benz R230 (V12 Model and Earlier, up to 2005)
• 1998-2002 Mercedes-Benz W208
• 2003-2005 Mercedes-Benz W209
• 2000-2006 Mercedes-Benz C215 (V12 Models only)
• 2007–Present Mercedes-Benz C216 (V12 Models only)
• 1996–Present Mercedes-Benz W463 (AMG Models only)
• 2005-2009 Mercedes-Benz SLR
• 2002–Present Maybach 57 and 62
• 1998-2002 Jaguar X308 (Supercharged models only)
• 1998-2002 Jaguar XK (X100) (Supercharged models only)
• 2004–Present Ssangyong Rexton
• 2006–Present Ssangyong Kyron
• 2005–Present Ssangyong Rodius
• 2005-2008 Dodge Magnum- All HEMI applications, all AWD applications and some 3.5L RWD V6 applications, year dependent
• 2005–Present Chrysler 300- All HEMI applications, all AWD applications and some 3.5L RWD V6 applications, year dependent All pentastar V6 applications
• 2006–Present Dodge Charger- All HEMI applications, all AWD applications and some 3.5L RWD V6 applications, year dependent,All pentastar V6 applications
• 2008–Present Dodge Challenger- All HEMI applications, All pentastar V6 applications
• 2007-2011 Dodge Nitro- 4.0L V6 Applications
• 2006-2010 Jeep Commander- 3.7L V6 Applications, 3.0L CRD V6 applications
• 2005–2013 Jeep Grand Cherokee- 3.7L V6 Applications, 3.0L Diesel Applications, SRT8 Applications, all pentastar V6 applications
• 2011–Present Dodge Durango, 3.6L V6
• 2011–Present Jeep Wrangler- 2.8L Diesel
• 2012–Present Jeep Wrangler 3.6L V6

are you really trying to say BMW leatherette is better then da REAL leather trim da SRT8 comes equipped with?

are you really gonna go da awards route which are slanted against pushrod engines because they are seen as "old tech"? da new corvette

has direct drive, variable timing WITH pushrods..you're gonna call that engine "not worthy" too?

look at da maintanence cost of da BMW once it goes outta warranty..it BALLOONS da second year. good luck getting that fixed.

 

[SneakerProSr.]

A.

 yes i have been in both WHILE they're moving, im in da heightz, i got alot on enterprising friends who own both.

B. da camry is FWD, it doesn't compare to a dodge charger.

car and driver themselves SAYS da charger rides JUST like a 5 series, so imma gonna keep asking till someone gives me da answer,

what luxury features does a base model 528i which cost more have that a fully loaded SRT8 dodge charger which cost less doesn't have?

Chapter 1: Paying with Monopoly Money

I guess I'll address this as it's clear you're what I've always referred to you as.................a 'brochure' enthusiast.
(Considering you pick & choose what you like to respond to as the posts you dismiss completely obliterate the filth coming from your keyboard, I'm assuming this will be easy. Basically, you go for scraps as they're the easiest to refute.)

If you want to talk luxury, we can discuss the F10's much better weight distribution while having an elongated frame reminiscent to that of the higher-end F01. (i.e. They share the same platform.) This might be difficult for you to digest, but luxury isn't based on how fast you can go nor how many gadgets & trinkets you have. So you've said leather isn't standard 2-3 times already? We get it. If you would've actually been in one with leatherette, you'd notice that it does not feel cheap nor fit outside of BMW's reputation. If Coral Red leather came in leatherette, I'd have no problem opting for that so your rather ancient mentality on imitation leather is skewed. Literally, BMW's goal of upholding their heritage is founded on providing effortless features within a simplistic approach...

You did a nice copy & paste, but a longer list doesn't necessarily define a better vehicle. It's what we call 'compensation'. Anyways, let's reference some of that list. You're really going to compare the refined 8-speed STEPTRONIC transmission to that of the lackluster 5-speed automatic on the SRT8? We could also go into brake regeneration, micro-filtered ventilation, etc. if you want to take that next step. More or less, you simply neglect all the intricacies as you most likely are not subjected to things of a higher (more refined) scale...

Has the 392 HEMI won any significant awards lately? I'm just posing the question as the N20 (as well as an array of other BMW Group engines) cleaned-up at the 2012 International Engine of the Year Awards. I believe it was also in Wards Top Ten of 2012 as well. Looks like your big & bulky 6.4 is fluff in the grand scheme of things...

So you're in the Heights, but there's plenty of photos/videos of you & your surroundings that appear as if you're stuck in time/poverty? Makes sense...

The only thing I can say about you is that you're consistently inconsistent. I'd take the bet that you'll be repeating this nonsensical babble in 5-years trying to influence the new batch of NTers on how to live without having any actual accomplishments of your own.

Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!

For someone that has endlessly gone on a campaign in regards to European cars in terms of poor maintenance & reliability, you certainly have not done your homework...

If you stopped skimming through the Dodge line-up pamphlet looking at basic specs', you'd realize why Charger SRT8s simply do not sell compared to their counterparts...
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You had a good post until you posted that chart.

You go find me a 2012 Dodge Charger SRT8 for 33 grand that isn't a salvage title. 12K in depreciation in the first year Shiit I wish it did depreciate that much because I would have one.

 

[waitwut]

Some people dont want a SRT Ninja. To some people that is not their style. Most do not want to deal with the terrible mpg a Hemi has.

da hemi shuts off 4 if its 8 clyinders when its being driven Conservatively,

and as you can see by da FACTS, da SRT comes with more luxury features that a base model luxury 5 series, all while giving you

a WHOLE lot more for a whole lot less money.

da more you boil it down to da facts, da most da final answer comes from something that doesn't attribute itself with logic= badge flossing.

poeple cant buy because they prefer how the 5 series looks over the charger though? im not taking any sides btw
i know the facts are there not denying that but a lot of people buy based on looks and its a huge factor
to just say someone bought it to badge floss is ignorant and probably why a lot of people taking shots tbh

 

[air spider 777]

poeple cant prefer how the 5 series looks over the charger though? im not taking any sides btw
i know the facts are there not denying that but a lot of people buy based on looks and its a huge factor
to just say someone bought it to badge floss is ignorant tbh

Exactly. Everyone has different taste!

 

[ninjahood]

Some people dont want a SRT Ninja. To some people that is not their style. Most do not want to deal with the terrible mpg a Hemi has.

da hemi shuts off 4 if its 8 clyinders when its being driven Conservatively,

and as you can see by da FACTS, da SRT comes with more luxury features that a base model luxury 5 series, all while giving you

a WHOLE lot more for a whole lot less money.

da more you boil it down to da facts, da most da final answer comes from something that doesn't attribute itself with logic= badge flossing.

poeple cant prefer how the 5 series looks over the charger though? im not taking any sides btw
i know the facts are there not denying that but a lot of people buy based on looks and its a huge factor
to just say someone bought it to badge floss is ignorant and probably why a lot of people taking shots tbh

buy it "just cuz it looks" is badge flossing...you're buying it because it a BMW instead of "im buying it because it giving me da most amount of stuff for X amount

of dollars" why do you think once these cars exchange hands da depreciation is ATROCIOUS? once da new car appeal goes away what are you stuck with?

a meagerly equipped car that lost 1/2 its value because you decided to buy "just cuz how it looks". this is why entry level luxury is oxymoronic money trap thats

is bad decision buy compared to so much things on da market.

 

[dankenstien88]

This thread is gonna be longer than the PYC thread pretty soon

 

[sniper]

did you really just compare da 5 speed to da 8 speed and some some of advantage?

go ask merc fans why da s65 still has a 5 speed (SAME ONE in da SRT8) while some of da other trims have moved to a 8 speed..

here's a hint: transmisson tolerance limit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_5G-Tronic_transmission

• 1996–1999 Mercedes-Benz W140
• 2000-2005 Mercedes-Benz W220
• 2006–Present Mercedes-Benz W221 (V12 Models only)
• 1997-2002 Mercedes-Benz W210
• 2002-2004 Mercedes-Benz W211
• 1997-2000 Mercedes-Benz W202
• 2000-2004 Mercedes-Benz W203
• 1998-2005 Mercedes-Benz W163
• 1997-2004 Mercedes-Benz W168
• 2004–Present Mercedes-Benz W169
• 2005–Present Mercedes-Benz B-Class
• 1998-2005 Mercedes-Benz R170
• 1990-2001 Mercedes-Benz R129
• 2001–Present Mercedes-Benz R230 (V12 Model and Earlier, up to 2005)
• 1998-2002 Mercedes-Benz W208
• 2003-2005 Mercedes-Benz W209
• 2000-2006 Mercedes-Benz C215 (V12 Models only)
• 2007–Present Mercedes-Benz C216 (V12 Models only)
• 1996–Present Mercedes-Benz W463 (AMG Models only)
• 2005-2009 Mercedes-Benz SLR
• 2002–Present Maybach 57 and 62
• 1998-2002 Jaguar X308 (Supercharged models only)
• 1998-2002 Jaguar XK (X100) (Supercharged models only)
• 2004–Present Ssangyong Rexton
• 2006–Present Ssangyong Kyron
• 2005–Present Ssangyong Rodius
• 2005-2008 Dodge Magnum- All HEMI applications, all AWD applications and some 3.5L RWD V6 applications, year dependent
• 2005–Present Chrysler 300- All HEMI applications, all AWD applications and some 3.5L RWD V6 applications, year dependent All pentastar V6 applications
• 2006–Present Dodge Charger- All HEMI applications, all AWD applications and some 3.5L RWD V6 applications, year dependent,All pentastar V6 applications
• 2008–Present Dodge Challenger- All HEMI applications, All pentastar V6 applications
• 2007-2011 Dodge Nitro- 4.0L V6 Applications
• 2006-2010 Jeep Commander- 3.7L V6 Applications, 3.0L CRD V6 applications
• 2005–2013 Jeep Grand Cherokee- 3.7L V6 Applications, 3.0L Diesel Applications, SRT8 Applications, all pentastar V6 applications
• 2011–Present Dodge Durango, 3.6L V6
• 2011–Present Jeep Wrangler- 2.8L Diesel
• 2012–Present Jeep Wrangler 3.6L V6

are you really trying to say BMW leatherette is better then da REAL leather trim da SRT8 comes equipped with?

are you really gonna go da awards route which are slanted against pushrod engines because they are seen as "old tech"? da new corvette

has direct drive, variable timing WITH pushrods..you're gonna call that engine "not worthy" too?

look at da maintanence cost of da BMW once it goes outta warranty..it BALLOONS da second year. good luck getting that fixed.

Haha! You're dumber than I thought...

The only reason why the S65 & S600 retain the 5G is due to the fact that the 7G can only handle 542 lbs. of torque. Other than, I'm sure Google will lead you to several forums describing the 5G as "Ok", "Alright", "Dull Witted", etc...

Please direct me to stating leatherette is superior to real leather on an SRT8? Does this tactic work for you? Simply put, child. Leather is not a priority for many. I wanted a specific color, but it was not offered in leatherette. That's not a result of finances, but choice. The difference between you & I is that I can actually make those choices while you're in the background (from afar) telling me what I should do...

I see you're making proclamations again without actually looking at the actual lists & categories comprised within the International Engine of the Year Awards...

I own/lease several bimmers and you're telling me that in year 6, the repairs will substantially grow? Propietary parts are, of course, more expensive than universal parts to that of a Honda, Toyota, etc., but a money pit? Nope! Again, making false claims as usual. Take a gander at your coveted SRT8 & notice the distinct fluctuations in price...

A.

 yes i have been in both WHILE they're moving, im in da heightz, i got alot on enterprising friends who own both.

B. da camry is FWD, it doesn't compare to a dodge charger.

car and driver themselves SAYS da charger rides JUST like a 5 series, so imma gonna keep asking till someone gives me da answer,

what luxury features does a base model 528i which cost more have that a fully loaded SRT8 dodge charger which cost less doesn't have?

Chapter 1: Paying with Monopoly Money

I guess I'll address this as it's clear you're what I've always referred to you as.................a 'brochure' enthusiast.
(Considering you pick & choose what you like to respond to as the posts you dismiss completely obliterate the filth coming from your keyboard, I'm assuming this will be easy. Basically, you go for scraps as they're the easiest to refute.)

If you want to talk luxury, we can discuss the F10's much better weight distribution while having an elongated frame reminiscent to that of the higher-end F01. (i.e. They share the same platform.) This might be difficult for you to digest, but luxury isn't based on how fast you can go nor how many gadgets & trinkets you have. So you've said leather isn't standard 2-3 times already? We get it. If you would've actually been in one with leatherette, you'd notice that it does not feel cheap nor fit outside of BMW's reputation. If Coral Red leather came in leatherette, I'd have no problem opting for that so your rather ancient mentality on imitation leather is skewed. Literally, BMW's goal of upholding their heritage is founded on providing effortless features within a simplistic approach...

You did a nice copy & paste, but a longer list doesn't necessarily define a better vehicle. It's what we call 'compensation'. Anyways, let's reference some of that list. You're really going to compare the refined 8-speed STEPTRONIC transmission to that of the lackluster 5-speed automatic on the SRT8? We could also go into brake regeneration, micro-filtered ventilation, etc. if you want to take that next step. More or less, you simply neglect all the intricacies as you most likely are not subjected to things of a higher (more refined) scale...

Has the 392 HEMI won any significant awards lately? I'm just posing the question as the N20 (as well as an array of other BMW Group engines) cleaned-up at the 2012 International Engine of the Year Awards. I believe it was also in Wards Top Ten of 2012 as well. Looks like your big & bulky 6.4 is fluff in the grand scheme of things...

So you're in the Heights, but there's plenty of photos/videos of you & your surroundings that appear as if you're stuck in time/poverty? Makes sense...

The only thing I can say about you is that you're consistently inconsistent. I'd take the bet that you'll be repeating this nonsensical babble in 5-years trying to influence the new batch of NTers on how to live without having any actual accomplishments of your own.

Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!

For someone that has endlessly gone on a campaign in regards to European cars in terms of poor maintenance & reliability, you certainly have not done your homework...

If you stopped skimming through the Dodge line-up pamphlet looking at basic specs', you'd realize why Charger SRT8s simply do not sell compared to their counterparts...
View media item 546608View media item 546609

You had a good post until you posted that chart.

You go find me a 2012 Dodge Charger SRT8 for 33 grand that isn't a salvage title. 12K in depreciation in the first year Shiit I wish it did depreciate that much because I would have one.

Bitter Charger Owner. Party of 1! Your table is ready...