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he'd have to win 7 championships shootin a fg% of .90 or better during those title runs whild avg. 28 pts a game for those years
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Originally Posted by dmbrhs
WHO CARES. SERIOUSLY. WHO CARES.
Originally Posted by Wasps and Asps
he'd have to win 7 championships shootin a fg% of .90 or better during those title runs whild avg. 28 pts a game for those years
Originally Posted by Xtapolapacetl
but we're talking about skill here. Kobe > Michael Jordan.
Kobe Bryant has assets to his game that are BETTER than Michael Jordans...Mike might have rings, but we're talking about skill here. Kobe > Michael Jordan.
Better shooter, better scorer, better footwork, better ball-handling, etc.
Skill? Yeah, yeah, bla bla bla. Kobe might have accomplished more, but in terms of SKILL, 2000-03 Tracy McGrady > any Kobe.
First thing is first: Kobe was never as good a shooter as MJ was in 1995-96. Other than that season, Kobe was a better outside shooter than Mike pretty much all other seasons. Mid-range? Never.
Better scorer? Don't make me laugh. MJ has the highest regular season scoring average in history. And if that wasn't enough, his playoff career scoring average is 3+ points higher. And if that wasn't enough, his finals career scoring average is even higher. His scoring consistency was scary. He scored in double figures for 800 or so straight games. And his field goal percentages as a SG were higher than those of most big men.
What about defense? What about the fact that MJ could be a triple-double machine and could average 8 rebounds and 8 assists over a season, when Kobe has never come close to this? Just forget it, any logic has no effect you and your kind. It's like talking to a brick wall who just keeps saying "but he had better skills".Prove it. Oh, that's right. YOU CAN'T. Instead you just mention it and wait for one of the Team Lakers signatures to agree with you, as if that will make your statement more right.
Man, you guys and your obsessiveness to constantly compare Kobe to MJ is annoying. It's sad how you can't accept the fact that he will never be as good as MJ, but will still have a great career.
It's when people say Lawrence Taylor can't cover, if Jordon started shooting threes you would thank god.
Kobe is a better shooter from outside than mj ever was. But in Mj prime his midrange was better than kobe's. the comparisons are their because their aliketo how they approach the game and obviously kobe patterning his game around him. Tex winter himself who has watched both makes the comparisons. And for tmaches no better than his cousin vince carter. Not even knocking tmac but he just never took the next step and thats why hes not even mentioned with kobe today.
Originally Posted by southzeztpdot
MJ was human. Someone can surpass him. If you think its impossible than you are a MJ stan and need to fall back. Dude wasnt even that good of a person in general from what Ive read.
Al3xis:
Pau Gasol is more skilled than Karl Malone was offensively, that make him better?
Productivity > Skill.
FACT
Originally Posted by Si3xers55
this is such BS cuz u cant say that hell never be better than jordan...wut if he averages 50pts 10assists and 10 rebounds for the rest of his career?? and wins 4 more championships? i hate ignorant people that just assume michael jordan is the best that will ever play the game of basketball
Originally Posted by Pill Clinton
Kobe Bryant has assets to his game that are BETTER than Michael Jordans...Mike might have rings, but we're talking about skill here. Kobe > Michael Jordan.
Better shooter, better scorer, better footwork, better ball-handling, etc.
The last and only person to average over 50 points a game was Wilt Chamberlain. Kobe doesn't get his buckets THAT easy.Originally Posted by Si3xers55
this is such BS cuz u cant say that hell never be better than jordan...wut if he averages 50pts 10assists and 10 rebounds for the rest of his career?? and wins 4 more championships? i hate ignorant people that just assume michael jordan is the best that will ever play the game of basketball
...if lebron played in the 90's he wouldn't be doing all that because he wouldn't get to the line and a vetern wouldve taken his head off with all those 3 step drives he be doing
Just like I can't wait 'til Kobe retires so the comparisons will stop (and he'll stop holding my Lakers hostage), I can't wait 'til we getfar enough from the '90s that people will stop making these claims.
It didn't happen. MJ never had his head taken off when he was having a historic scoring performance. Sure, he was the recipient of hard fouls from thePistons during important games, but that was an 80s team and it died with them.
Regarding the question, I don't believe it's any one thing that would put a player over the top. Winning probably tops all. Wouldn't there be amuch bigger argument had MJ won five instead of six championships regardless of statistics? Statistics only matter if the championships are the same or closeto the same.
People like myself won't even bother to make the comparison. There are a lot of people out there that don't believe MJ>*, merely that MJ is in thetop tier that includes Magic, Russell, and whichever other player you want to put up there.
All I care about is how the Lakers are doing.