Florida School Shooting, Over 20 Casualties

Arming teachers isn’t a bad idea because “teachers are bad too”, it’s bad because people are seriously considering that the answer to solving gun violence is to add more gun into the mix. I read this first thinking it was a meme/joke..... it’s not..... “my house is on fire, let me add more fire. It will make the previous fire go away” lol

100% agree. What's a realistic solution? Cause I'm not seeing the light at the end of the tunnel here.
 
It’s wild how schools in the hood have been criminalized since the late 90’s with metal detectors, gated windows, guards, and school lunch rat ressembles exactly how lunch in a prison is carried out and we grew up in that environment thinking is normal, I remember arriving at school in the freezing winter mornings at about 6am to stand on line for at least 45 minutes in order to get properly scanned and padded down and not miss my 0 period class which was at 7:15am I believe...for these schools in predominantly white neighborhoods to not have any of this was kind of mind blowing, I remember years after high school when I started driving and I discovered the burbs and came across Bronxville High, lord...I thought it was some joint out of a movie...lol always had me feeling like damn it must be nice....not anymore...lol
 
I also think metal detectors came to be in the hood with a rise in school stabbings if I remember correctly...not even mass shootings...almost a decade of mass shootings in white schools and these dudes refused to bring that prison life vibe to their schools....I mean DO SOMETHING.
 
Fun fact, the majority of people considered white today in American society weren't considered white less than 100 years ago. This includes the Irish, Italians, eastern europeans etc. They were absorbed into the WASP population so the WASPS wouldn't be the minority.[/QUOTE


Exactly, and they're doing the same thing now w/ Latinos, and using the term Hispanic because majority of people are ignorant and use both terms interchangeably. Main reason "white" people will never become the minority, hell, when things get really bad, they'll fight to make Puerto Rico a state.
 
It’s wild how schools in the hood have been criminalized since the late 90’s with metal detectors, gated windows, guards, and school lunch rat ressembles exactly how lunch in a prison is carried out and we grew up in that environment thinking is normal, I remember arriving at school in the freezing winter mornings at about 6am to stand on line for at least 45 minutes in order to get properly scanned and padded down and not miss my 0 period class which was at 7:15am I believe...for these schools in predominantly white neighborhoods to not have any of this was kind of mind blowing, I remember years after high school when I started driving and I discovered the burbs and came across Bronxville High, lord...I thought it was some joint out of a movie...lol always had me feeling like damn it must be nice....not anymore...lol
those property tax differences.
 
i come back to privilege

parents "want the best" for the kids but either arent prepared or arent willing to raise them with morals and decency

they think as long as they send them to a private school they are "doing the right thing"

and those schools are where kids learn the worst habits
 
100% agree. What's a realistic solution? Cause I'm not seeing the light at the end of the tunnel here.
I’ll try to keep this a to the point as possible

As I’ve said before there is no solution because the source of the problem is flawed in itself. This is not the first time this has happened in America. Back when schools were segregated the topic of debate was separation. They concluded that “separate but equal” would fix that..... it didn’t. The topic came back over and over until they realized that the initial problem was flawed to begin with, why the hell are the school separated in the first place????? Boom, real change happened.

To put it in even simpler terms it’s like being on a diet where you only eat cake and looking for the right kind of cake to eat to help you lose weight. The root of the matter is already flawed to begin with.

Here we are now talking about what guns are ok, what guns should be bought at what age, what guns should be banned, what guns are ok in what areas, blah blah blah. None of this solves the real problem.

“Bad people will get them if they want to” “it’s so easy to get” “the nice guys won’t be able to defend themselves anymore” yeah yeah, thanks. Let’s see it.

The constitution is as outdated as it gets and thats not debatable. History as taught to us is incorrect and that’s not debatable. Old whites want to keep things the way they are because it gets them paid. This country was built on tobacco, alcohol, slavery, and killing. Progress is there yet it’s stopped. We have kids that can build cars that run on cooking oil yet large companies refuse to use alternative sources of energy because oil industries have a hand in everything. Cigarettes have a 100% chance of negatively impacting someone’s life and costs us all millions in medical coverage yet are still in circulation because big tobacco has a hand in everything. Now here comes the NRA...... do I need to go over it again or are we tired of hearing about it all week? Ohhhh look, now we have a president that literally embodies all of that.... what a coincidence.

Another problem are these white families that raise their kids with dependacies on mood altering drugs to replace actual affection and discipline. They’re a missed dose away from huge problems with no ability to deal with any type of failure



All in all this is a long way of saying I don’t know. The real problem won’t be discussed or changed.
 
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the fbi could not get this guy but got a report of a youtube account with this dudes exact name. they had gotten multiple tips.
 
the fbi could not get this guy but got a report of a youtube account with this dudes exact name. they had gotten multiple tips.


Worst I’ve seen is trump and his base using this as a means to delegitimize the trump investigation...as if the FBI can only handle one thing at a time, so since they dropped the ball on this kid, THAT MUST BE because ALLLLL of their resources are focused on DA WITCHHUNT
 
i come back to privilege

parents "want the best" for the kids but either arent prepared or arent willing to raise them with morals and decency

they think as long as they send them to a private school they are "doing the right thing"

and those schools are where kids learn the worst habits

What?
 
What is the stereotype about yuppies private hs prescription pills affluenza something something

The hs that got attacked didnt look like it was in the inner city
 
Im all for teachers being armed.

Pass certain certifications

Rigours tactical training

And renew licenses and training every 2 yrs.


 
Worst I’ve seen is trump and his base using this as a means to delegitimize the trump investigation...as if the FBI can only handle one thing at a time, so since they dropped the ball on this kid, THAT MUST BE because ALLLLL of their resources are focused on DA WITCHHUNT

People really thinking an agency as big as the FBI has all of it's members working on the same case at the same time. :rollin
 
Teachers already having sex with kids they like. They definitely gonna shoot kids they don't like.

Just need security at schools. Teachers already got too many jobs to do.
 
Im all for teachers being armed.

Pass certain certifications

Rigours tactical training

And renew licenses and training every 2 yrs.



Ahhh ok... where to start....

1. So you give schools 20-30 guns minimum. 20-30 guns are now accessable to the kids and before you say they’ll be safely stored.... stop. No longer do these shooters need to bring a gun they’ll have them at the school for easy access

2. Who’s paying for this training? Lol they won’t even pay them to do bus duty. “Rigours training” LOL when?? These are teachers not killers. You’re paying someone 30k a year and want them to kill on command? What world are you living in?

3. What will be the policy for use? More kids will be shot than ever. “Life threatening” is a term that can be tossed around for every situation. Trayvon (spelling) ring a bell?

Again, deterrents are far more effective than offense. You want to keep the school safe, lock it down. This delusional idea that more guns solve the problem of attaining guns in the first place is idiotic
 
The “arm the teachers” rhetoric is amongst the most moronic things I’ve ever heard, but it lines up perfectly with the pro-gun, conservative, MAGA crowd, bunch of imbeciles...my sister in law is a teacher in the Bronx, she’s a 29 year old girl terrified of weapons, like her there are MANY...she said she’ll quit before bringing a gun to her classroom, becoming a teacher should NEVER be associated with warfare or anti-terrorism of any kind, their job is to teach...not to get into a gun fight...
 
The “arm the teachers” rhetoric is amongst the most moronic things I’ve ever heard, but it lines up perfectly with the pro-gun, conservative, MAGA crowd, bunch of imbeciles...my sister in law is a teacher in the Bronx, she’s a 29 year old girl terrified of weapons, like her there are MANY...she said she’ll quit before bringing a gun to her classroom, becoming a teacher should NEVER be associated with warfare or anti-terrorism of any kind, their job is to teach...not to get into a gun fight...


Leave the country.
 
So coss getting massed executed?


So you gonna miss the point like that? Cops are trained to use a gun when necessary, how often don’t they pull the trigger at the wrong time in an excessive matter, kill an innocent and no justice is served..,now you wanna equip teachers with the same
Type of authority? All of a sudden a teacher feels threatened and kills a student with her state issued gun and claims she feared for her life, do you really not see the can of worms arming teachers would open!?
 
Teachers with guns lol
Many can’t keep their legs closed or D in their pants. They need more behavior support in classrooms that can identify those that lack social skills and show aggressive verbal/physical behavior.
 
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