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a win is a win..
onto Bama
and lets not do the white jerseys again
onto Bama
and lets not do the white jerseys again
GEORGETOWN BASKETBALL THREAD- Recap
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white jerseys were horrible, thought bowman and cook were playing again....
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good w today. any word on sapp and how he's doing?
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^ he came back in the second half and played a bit. he was a bit out of it. whatever happned, i think jt3 was being cautious and not letting him play much.
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thought bowman and cook were playing again....
...Bowman and Cook helped turn things around tho. I gotlove for those two...guys like Tony Bethel, Wesley Wilson and Drew Hall on the other hand..
Sapp, hope he'll be 100%
he's definitely become one of my all time favorites already
http://washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071201/SPORTS/112010062/1005/sports
Georgetown guard Jessie Sapp learned long ago that he had a special gift for improvisation on a basketball court. Isolation hoops was the name of the gameon the playground directly opposite his mom's apartment in the Woodrow Wilson Housing Development in Harlem, N.Y.
If you wanted to keep the court, you learned to create - shooting angles, passing lanes, rebounding space. There were no coaches on that court. And rules,well, you didn't dare cry foul unless there was blood or a bruise as proof.
The Woodrow Wilson playground can be a hard place. Sapp's little sister and another youth were accidentally shot (both recovered) just before Georgetownfaced Florida in the Sweet 16 of Sapp's freshman season. But for Sapp, that playground will always be home. That place forged a fighter with a disarmingperma-smile. At the "Wood" - like most every inner city court - you either learn to play their way or you don't come to the court. Adapt orretreat.
Georgetown's junior guard has never been one to back down.
In such an environment, fundamentals tend to take a back seat to the holy trinity of the street: fire, flash and brute force. Those requirements perfectlysuited the budding boxing talent who had never played organized ball before he was "discovered" in the summer of 2003 by a pair of assistant coachesfor the New York Gauchos, a Bronx-based AAU power.
"I was an assistant with the Gauchos when Jessie came in for a tryout," Gary Sims said yesterday. "He was a street player, raw but obviouslygifted. We had the top-ranked AAU teams in the nation in two different age divisions that summer. Jessie stepped onto the court with guys like Russell Robinson[Kansas], Levance Fields [Pittsburgh], Ronald Ramon [Pittsburgh], Curtis Kelly [Connecticut] and Taj Gibson [USC] and just started stuffing the statsheet."
Sims knew coach Trevor Brown at National Christian Academy (Fort Washington) was looking for a guard. He put Brown in touch with Sapp, who entered NCA as ajunior the following fall. Two years later, Sapp landed at Georgetown as perhaps the least heralded member of John Thompson III's first recruiting class.Three years later, Sapp is the only member of that class still wearing blue and gray.
"Jessie Sapp is my man," Thompson said. "He's got that swagger. He's got a magnetic personality. He's incredibly tough. He'sa relentless competitor. He's incredibly emotional. Some people wonder whether he's a [point guard] or a [shooting guard]. I've always said that Idon't know and I don't care. What I do know is that Jessie Sapp is a guy who has an uncanny knack for making plays."
Though he started all but one game last season, the bullishly built 6-foot-3, 205-pound guard didn't truly find his niche on Georgetown's Final Foursquad until the team's mid-February trip to Villanova. It was at halftime of that game, moments after Sapp had heaved in a 50-foot bomb at the buzzer togive the Hoyas a two-point lead, when Thompson came to his sophomore guard and told him he would defend Villanova superfrosh Scottie Reynolds in the secondhalf. Reynolds had ripped the Hoyas for 13 points before the break. But with Sapp seemingly stitched to his uniform in the second half, Reynolds scored justfive more points and only took five more shots in the 58-55 Georgetown victory.
Sapp relished his new role as defensive stopper and repeated his lockdown performance numerous times during Georgetown's stretch-run sprint, stiflingsuperb scorers like Reynolds (again in the Big East tournament, limiting him to 11 points), Fields (three points in the Big East finals) and NorthCarolina's Ty Lawson (five points NCAA East Region finals).
"When coach comes to you and puts that responsibility on you to stop a guy from breaking down your team, it's a tremendous honor," Sapp saidearlier this week. "To know that your coach and teammates are placing that kind of trust in you really gives you incredible energy."
With the departure of offensive catalyst Jeff Green, Georgetown needed all four returning starters to elevate their games on the offensive end. Through thefirst four games, nobody has answered that challenge better than Sapp, who is second on the team in scoring (12.0 points) behind Roy Hibbert and leads theHoyas in assists (5.3).
"His growth process has been terrific," said Thompson, whose Hoyas (4-0) face Fairfield today at Verizon Center. "From being a regularcontributor as a freshman, to being an integral part of a Final Four team, to now eagerly accepting a leadership role on this team. He's one of those kidswho pounces on an assignment.
"I'll tell him coming out of a huddle, 'Jessie, go get me a rebound. Or, Jessie, I'm counting on you to lock down No. whatever.' Andyou just know he's going to go get it done. I'm not really a stats guy, but I believe he was right behind Jeff last season in minutes played. On thatteam, that tells you all you need to know about how I feel about Jessie Sapp."
Sapp's 3-point shooting has improved, jumping from a 29.6 percent last season to 42.1 percent through four games courtesy of a summer of commitment.
"It's all reps," Sapp said. "I got in the [Gauchos] gym back home and went to work. Some days I'd stay until I made 400 [3-pointers],other days I'd stay until I made 500."
But perhaps most impressively, Sapp has used his strengths as an improvisational slasher while still operating within the parameters of Georgetown'smotion offense.
A playground pedigree isn't what one associates with Thompson's Princeton-based offense. But last season, Sapp ranked fifth in the Big East inassist-to-turnover ratio (1.91). And this season, he's on target to challenge that efficiency (1.75) despite nearly doubling his assists with increasedassertiveness.
"He is 100 percent New York, and so some people get the wrong impression and think I must have had a real hard time getting him to play within thesystem," Thompson said. "Now, when you're coming off a Final Four and going pretty good, everybody buys in to the system, everybody says theright things. Deep down, that might just be lip service for some guys. Jessie was never one of those guys. He's been a believer from Day 1. He just getsit."
The "it" Sapp understands is Thompson's demand that his players dedicate each offensive possession to moving, sharing and working for theeasiest possible shot. But on those occasional possessions when the shot clock hits single digits before a quality look has presented itself, the Hoyas oftenfind "Harlem." And then Sapp finds himself back at the Woodrow Wilson court, smothered by a defender, forced to make something out of nothing with alittle dribble-drive magic. More often than not, the old playground virtuoso delivers with a highlight move that prompts awe-dulation from fans and teammatesalike.
"When you hear those oohs and aahs, that's the street talking," Sapp said. "I hear it. And I do enjoy it. But you can't pay too muchattention to it, because that's not what college ball is all about."
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Bama going down hard....hahaha
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Finally a nationally televised game!! yea bama will be going down hard (pause)
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speaking of bowman...if these stats are correct homie is killin in the D-League. hopefully he'll get a call up at some point
http://www.nba.com/dleague/playerfile/brandon_bowman/index.html
Team G GS MPG FGM-A FG% 3PM-A 3P% FTM-A FT% OFF DEF TOT APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
BAK 5 5 35.6 35-63 .556 2-5 .400 12-18 .667 1.8 4.8 6.6 3.4 1.40 0.80 3.60 3.60 16.8
http://www.nba.com/dleague/playerfile/brandon_bowman/index.html
Team G GS MPG FGM-A FG% 3PM-A 3P% FTM-A FT% OFF DEF TOT APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
BAK 5 5 35.6 35-63 .556 2-5 .400 12-18 .667 1.8 4.8 6.6 3.4 1.40 0.80 3.60 3.60 16.8
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, id be happy to see bowman in the league. cook can stay in germanyor wherever the hell he is... and we need to bring back drew hall, those half court shots with 5 minutes left in the game are sorely missed
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where's courtland freeman at these days??? what about other georgetown standouts (or sellouts) like matt causey, drew hall? what about recent stars likeamadou, k to the izzo, sead?? actually i think i know what seads doing, probably beasting on that huge russian chick that our boy facialdil was gettin downwith at that one party
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hahah wow. al really was sweating that girl?
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Typer...
Causey is at Georgia Tech, and getting minutes
Drew Hall...LOL, I loved him for hitting that shot @ UNC...to be honest, I loved that team that year. Sweetney was a flat out machine
Causey is at Georgia Tech, and getting minutes
Drew Hall...LOL, I loved him for hitting that shot @ UNC...to be honest, I loved that team that year. Sweetney was a flat out machine
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Strange as it may sound, it's been nearly nine months since Georgetown played before a national ESPN audience, as the Hoyas were last seen on the networkin the Big East tournament. So while it only seems that every other Top 10 team has been on TV, Georgetown's national debut will hope to answer somequestions that the previous five games have not; specifically, how the 2007-08 team stacks up against national competition.
Questions abound too at Alabama, as the Crimson Tide seek to recover from the redshirt of guard Ronald Steele, an All-American candidate. Alabama'shigh-octane offense has won four of six, but was stung by a losses to Belmont (last seen in the 2007 NCAA's versus Georgetown), and #9 Texas A&M.
Steele's absence is felt in the backcourt, where the Tide is getting offense if not accuracy from its players to date. 5-11 junior Brandon Hollinger hastaken Steele's role at the point but has struggled mightily to date, shooting only 2-11 (1-9 from three) in five games. Hollinger has been assisted by apair of 6-6 wing men in the backcourt of Mykal Riley (13.0) and Alonzo Gee (13.
. Riley has, to date, been more consistent, shooting 43% from the field and41% from three point range, leading the team with 23 points in the Tide's narrow win over Southeastern Louisiana and scoring in double figures 25 timesover the past two seasons.
Gee may be the more dangerous option, but he has been erratic. From a 25 point, 11-11 from the line effort in the Southern Miss game, Gee shot 2-14 from thefield and was 0-4 versus Southern Miss a week later. A starter in all 32 games last season, Gee is averaging 14 points and 8.5 rebounds a game for an Alabamateam that has been all over the board this season, in part to its 30% three point shooting to date. if the Tide is rolling in this one, Gee must establish aconsistent touch.
The inside game will give up size, but not necessarily strength to the Hoyas. 6-7, 235 lb. forward Demetrius Jemison has seen his shooting numbers sink overthe last week, combining for just 5 of 13 shots in the last two games. Its de facto center, 6-9, 255 lb. Richard Hendrix, is a pre-season All-America candidateand has been Alabama's best player to date. he opened the season with 22 points and 23 rebounds against Troy, and has a double-double in each of his firstfive games. Hendrix averaging 21.8 points as 12.3 rebounds to date, shooting 62% from the field but only 55% from the line. Hendrix would be a major presenceat power forward, but because Alabama has no players taller than 6-9, he serves the role of center.
Georgetown poses a particular challenge because Alabama has struggled against teams able to work the ball inside and lock down its guards in the transitiongame. Against Texas A&M, Alabama allowed the Aggies to shoot 53% from the field and despite 18 turnovers, the Tide could not convert, especially fromoutside via a 2-11 run from outside. The Tide bench is not particularly deep up front and Alabama has been careful to avoid foul trouble, but a closely calledgame could quickly deplete Bama's best scoring options.
Georgetown's challenges in this game are to involve its big men more than it has to date. Roy Hibbert has not taken over games to date, as offensive setshave been more focused on setting up guard play. As the competition steps up, he will need to as well. Hibbert's defense on Hendrix is a matchup to watch,as well as how the smaller Jessie Sapp is able to keep Alonzo Gee out of Alabama's offensive sets. Georgetown may see more action from the taller AustinFreeman in backcourt defense, but Georgetown's strengths will be to control the game and play at its pace, not Alabama's. With that, some keys to thegame:
1. Setting the pace: Georgetown is holding opponents to 50 points a game. Alabama will be hard pressed to contend at that pace, and will look to push thehalftime score to 35-40 points per side. Georgetown is 26-2 in its last 42 games when opponents score less than 60 points.
2. Second chance points A team that gets rebounds gets second chances. Alabama is seeking a spark from outside and Georgetown must effectively get rebounds offthe deep shot.
3. First half three pointers Alabama coach Mark Gottfried feels that it's "when, " not "if" Alabama turns around its outside shooting.As it did so successfully last year, Georgetown needs a three point statement of its own, especially in Jonathan Wallace's homecoming. Look for Wallace tostep it up from the perimeter.
For Alabama to win, it will come from a fast tempo, a rediscovered three point shot, and a 20/10 game from Richard Hendrix. For Georgetown, the Hoyas ought tofollow the plan it established last spring in the Big East final--set the tone early, look for a hot hand from its guards, build a double digit lead early inthe second half, and control the game thereafter.
Questions abound too at Alabama, as the Crimson Tide seek to recover from the redshirt of guard Ronald Steele, an All-American candidate. Alabama'shigh-octane offense has won four of six, but was stung by a losses to Belmont (last seen in the 2007 NCAA's versus Georgetown), and #9 Texas A&M.
Steele's absence is felt in the backcourt, where the Tide is getting offense if not accuracy from its players to date. 5-11 junior Brandon Hollinger hastaken Steele's role at the point but has struggled mightily to date, shooting only 2-11 (1-9 from three) in five games. Hollinger has been assisted by apair of 6-6 wing men in the backcourt of Mykal Riley (13.0) and Alonzo Gee (13.
Gee may be the more dangerous option, but he has been erratic. From a 25 point, 11-11 from the line effort in the Southern Miss game, Gee shot 2-14 from thefield and was 0-4 versus Southern Miss a week later. A starter in all 32 games last season, Gee is averaging 14 points and 8.5 rebounds a game for an Alabamateam that has been all over the board this season, in part to its 30% three point shooting to date. if the Tide is rolling in this one, Gee must establish aconsistent touch.
The inside game will give up size, but not necessarily strength to the Hoyas. 6-7, 235 lb. forward Demetrius Jemison has seen his shooting numbers sink overthe last week, combining for just 5 of 13 shots in the last two games. Its de facto center, 6-9, 255 lb. Richard Hendrix, is a pre-season All-America candidateand has been Alabama's best player to date. he opened the season with 22 points and 23 rebounds against Troy, and has a double-double in each of his firstfive games. Hendrix averaging 21.8 points as 12.3 rebounds to date, shooting 62% from the field but only 55% from the line. Hendrix would be a major presenceat power forward, but because Alabama has no players taller than 6-9, he serves the role of center.
Georgetown poses a particular challenge because Alabama has struggled against teams able to work the ball inside and lock down its guards in the transitiongame. Against Texas A&M, Alabama allowed the Aggies to shoot 53% from the field and despite 18 turnovers, the Tide could not convert, especially fromoutside via a 2-11 run from outside. The Tide bench is not particularly deep up front and Alabama has been careful to avoid foul trouble, but a closely calledgame could quickly deplete Bama's best scoring options.
Georgetown's challenges in this game are to involve its big men more than it has to date. Roy Hibbert has not taken over games to date, as offensive setshave been more focused on setting up guard play. As the competition steps up, he will need to as well. Hibbert's defense on Hendrix is a matchup to watch,as well as how the smaller Jessie Sapp is able to keep Alonzo Gee out of Alabama's offensive sets. Georgetown may see more action from the taller AustinFreeman in backcourt defense, but Georgetown's strengths will be to control the game and play at its pace, not Alabama's. With that, some keys to thegame:
1. Setting the pace: Georgetown is holding opponents to 50 points a game. Alabama will be hard pressed to contend at that pace, and will look to push thehalftime score to 35-40 points per side. Georgetown is 26-2 in its last 42 games when opponents score less than 60 points.
2. Second chance points A team that gets rebounds gets second chances. Alabama is seeking a spark from outside and Georgetown must effectively get rebounds offthe deep shot.
3. First half three pointers Alabama coach Mark Gottfried feels that it's "when, " not "if" Alabama turns around its outside shooting.As it did so successfully last year, Georgetown needs a three point statement of its own, especially in Jonathan Wallace's homecoming. Look for Wallace tostep it up from the perimeter.
For Alabama to win, it will come from a fast tempo, a rediscovered three point shot, and a 20/10 game from Richard Hendrix. For Georgetown, the Hoyas ought tofollow the plan it established last spring in the Big East final--set the tone early, look for a hot hand from its guards, build a double digit lead early inthe second half, and control the game thereafter.
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stomach already in knots over a December 5th game..unhealthy
be back after the game
lets goooooooooooooooo
be back after the game
lets goooooooooooooooo
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Learn to shoot FT's..I don't know what the deal is
all I got to say other than good win
all I got to say other than good win
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That was way too close
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good job today
one more left till Memphis..
one more left till Memphis..
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tomorrow should be an easy one
8 days till Memphis...
Keep the post goin fellas, I might be gone for a month
8 days till Memphis...
Keep the post goin fellas, I might be gone for a month
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and onto Memphis..
two days late here, but that was impressive
two days late here, but that was impressive
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My thoughts on tomorrow....
What pace do we play at? It's thought we'll slow it down, play zone...I don't see that (see UNC)...we will go zone at times, but primarily man toman, switching on screens as usual. As far as offense, I think we can pick our spots to run with them, but it would be nice to make them work for 25, 30seconds on D.
Playing man...On Rose it has to be Sapp and Rivers. This might cut into the time Wallace is on the floor. Rivers has really improved and continues to be thebest on the ball defending guard on the team. Sapp has shown he can stay in front of quick guards also (Reynolds, Lawson). I like Dajuan's matchup withCDR..he has more length and athleticism then CDR is used to seeing. On the interior, nobody scares you back to basket. Taggart or Dorsey.
Weak side rebounding...Memphis is athletic, obviously. Roy should handle Dorsey no problem, its Taggart and Dozier, CDR to worry about coming in on theoffensive glass. PEJR, Dajuan and Macklin need to play well and do some dirty work.
Get Roy the ball early...I fully expect them to try and play Roy straight up with Dorsey. Roy is damn near unstoppable this point 1 on 1. This can lead to foultrouble and will open up the offense when the doubles will finally come. Memphis sense of arrogance can hurt them here.
FT's...both teams have been terrible, I expect a close game and this can be key.
Who gets hot? It seems like an open look for Wallace is a gimme at this point in his careeer, Sapp will need big shots as usual and a nice offensive game fromDajuan would be nice. With Memphis, they are the more streaky shooting team...If Mack, Kemp, Anderson are hitting from the perimiter, they can score inbunches.
Memphis pressure..I expect to see some extended full court pressure and this year we certainly are more suited to handle it. At times I can see it getting toRivers/or Sapp, but it shouldn't be much of a problem, it could break the offensive rythym though.
Driving at Dorsey and Roy...both teams slashers have to do this..both very valuable, Memphis does have more frontcourt depth, so Roy needs to stay away fromdumb fouls.
Coaching....I like to think JT3 is better in game than Cal..however it can take him a whole half to adjust at times. If we keep it to within 4,5 pts at halfand our down, I'll always like our 2nd half chances. Cal...how confident is he in his man to man, could be a key
Who takes the big shots? No Jeff Green this year, if the game is tight at the end, it will be interesting to see who wants it. From watching Memphis it appearsthat Rose is option #1 when it comes down to needing a score.
Two experienced teams, however I feel we have been in tighter, bigger games...and it might pay off here.
Something to watch - JR and Dorsey yapping, I expect a good amount of it
The freshman guards, Rose, Freeman and Wright...Rose really played well against Cincy and Wright and Freemans last outings were impressive. I except to see alot Freeman and a little less Wright. Scoring will be needed from Freeman, and a good game facilitating is needed on Memphis side from Rose.
If they go man all game, I expect a win...
Play D, stay in front, stop the ball...collectively rebound and make FT's and we come outa here with a huge win.
This game has been circled for months (at least for me)..the first real true test, has big implications for March, a #1 seed could possibly be decided here.
If I had to give a score
Georgetown 77
Memphis 73
What pace do we play at? It's thought we'll slow it down, play zone...I don't see that (see UNC)...we will go zone at times, but primarily man toman, switching on screens as usual. As far as offense, I think we can pick our spots to run with them, but it would be nice to make them work for 25, 30seconds on D.
Playing man...On Rose it has to be Sapp and Rivers. This might cut into the time Wallace is on the floor. Rivers has really improved and continues to be thebest on the ball defending guard on the team. Sapp has shown he can stay in front of quick guards also (Reynolds, Lawson). I like Dajuan's matchup withCDR..he has more length and athleticism then CDR is used to seeing. On the interior, nobody scares you back to basket. Taggart or Dorsey.
Weak side rebounding...Memphis is athletic, obviously. Roy should handle Dorsey no problem, its Taggart and Dozier, CDR to worry about coming in on theoffensive glass. PEJR, Dajuan and Macklin need to play well and do some dirty work.
Get Roy the ball early...I fully expect them to try and play Roy straight up with Dorsey. Roy is damn near unstoppable this point 1 on 1. This can lead to foultrouble and will open up the offense when the doubles will finally come. Memphis sense of arrogance can hurt them here.
FT's...both teams have been terrible, I expect a close game and this can be key.
Who gets hot? It seems like an open look for Wallace is a gimme at this point in his careeer, Sapp will need big shots as usual and a nice offensive game fromDajuan would be nice. With Memphis, they are the more streaky shooting team...If Mack, Kemp, Anderson are hitting from the perimiter, they can score inbunches.
Memphis pressure..I expect to see some extended full court pressure and this year we certainly are more suited to handle it. At times I can see it getting toRivers/or Sapp, but it shouldn't be much of a problem, it could break the offensive rythym though.
Driving at Dorsey and Roy...both teams slashers have to do this..both very valuable, Memphis does have more frontcourt depth, so Roy needs to stay away fromdumb fouls.
Coaching....I like to think JT3 is better in game than Cal..however it can take him a whole half to adjust at times. If we keep it to within 4,5 pts at halfand our down, I'll always like our 2nd half chances. Cal...how confident is he in his man to man, could be a key
Who takes the big shots? No Jeff Green this year, if the game is tight at the end, it will be interesting to see who wants it. From watching Memphis it appearsthat Rose is option #1 when it comes down to needing a score.
Two experienced teams, however I feel we have been in tighter, bigger games...and it might pay off here.
Something to watch - JR and Dorsey yapping, I expect a good amount of it
The freshman guards, Rose, Freeman and Wright...Rose really played well against Cincy and Wright and Freemans last outings were impressive. I except to see alot Freeman and a little less Wright. Scoring will be needed from Freeman, and a good game facilitating is needed on Memphis side from Rose.
If they go man all game, I expect a win...
Play D, stay in front, stop the ball...collectively rebound and make FT's and we come outa here with a huge win.
This game has been circled for months (at least for me)..the first real true test, has big implications for March, a #1 seed could possibly be decided here.
If I had to give a score
Georgetown 77
Memphis 73
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lets gooooooooo
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Hoyas get big...do work on them tigers
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G'Town needs Summers to play well.
Hoyas-76
Tiger-74
Hoyas-76
Tiger-74
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Yeah Summers and Hibb need to show up...I know Wallace will be reliable as usual
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its all about controlling the tempo...if we can keep this game low scoring its ours!
