You know I posted this earlier. And I read it, and you probably didn't. The article is a summary of different ideas, and the prominent theme was that statistaically and logically speaking tipping does not really depend on service.
Now, there is also another interesting idea in that article. That people tip to establish 'control'. In essence, they feel good to throw money at someone who is 'serving' them. This idea I feel is even more tricky than that of guilt. Other researchers find that this dates back to middle ages when noble men and high class people would tip poor serveants becaase they felt bad for them (this is not the type of world I like living in).
No, I don't think that it's entirely about being tight with money.That's generally because people who don't tip are tight with their money, and eating out at a nice restaurant is way more expensive than other avenues.
most of the people in here talking about not tipping dont even go out to eat or deal with anyone who they have to tip..
thats frank mucus bilbo.
You should have paid at least 10%. That's what everybody does.
That's why I said "generally", and not "entirely". And I don't see where I ever said being tight with money was wron.
They generally make about 10%, yes. But on a 10.60 order....no one would feel shorted if you only tipped a buck.
you obviously didn't read it. And that is fine.
I should, however....mention that our take out provides more service than most take out people do in other restaurants (from what I've seen). Our take out workers definitely do more. So maybe other take out spots aren't used to getting 10% average.
If you don't mind me asking, how old are you?
I DID read it....and that's my point. A lot of people disagree with your views. THe reader she is referring to in the article said, "Ummm, ********. I like tipping because it gives me an opportunity to show some appreciation to the various members of the 47%, who as a rule work longer hours than I do for way less money and generally live closer to the edge of survival in every way. I don't like their situation, but this is one small thing I can do to help and which is dignified for both of us. It has nothing to do with control or punishment."
you obviously didn't read it. And that is fine.
The lady who was quoted in that article was commenting on this article:
http://qz.com/113597/after-i-banned...he-service-got-better-and-we-made-more-money/
A story I had posted earlier.
relevance?
But the lady was making absurd assumptions. And if she likes tipping because someone works 'longer hours'...I hazard to say that she is tipping because she feels bad for them (aka as GUILT).I DID read it....and that's my point. A lot of people disagree with your views. THe reader she is referring to in the article said, "Ummm, ********. I like tipping because it gives me an opportunity to show some appreciation to the various members of the 47%, who as a rule work longer hours than I do for way less money and generally live closer to the edge of survival in every way. I don't like their situation, but this is one small thing I can do to help and which is dignified for both of us. It has nothing to do with control or punishment."
you obviously didn't read it. And that is fine.
The lady who was quoted in that article was commenting on this article:
http://qz.com/113597/after-i-banned...he-service-got-better-and-we-made-more-money/
A story I had posted earlier.
dont know that for sure. lol.
But they don't hear you though.
I'm going to assume that your telltale signs are bull.... or are based on race/class factors.
I break rules for customers that tip VERY well. But I don't break any crazy rules. I'm not like comping their meal for them (which I could do by simply telling the manager they didn't enjoy the entree). That would be stealing and I'd probably get fired. But one dude always orders a 25 oz beer (Stella), and a double Jameson on the rocks at the same time. That's technically illegal, and against the rules of the restaurant, but I do it for him because he always tips 40 dollars (his bill is usually like 60). He eats by himself, is a pleasure to serve, and tips crazy....so I bend some rules for him. I offer more bread instead of making him request it. The few times he brings his lady, they like to split a large meal....they request it be done in the kitchen. We aren't allowed to do that because it slows down the kitchen. We are supposed to just bring splitting plates for them. But I'm tight with the chefs, so they'll do it for me. If a manager questions me about it, I'll simply say the gues INSISTED that we split it for them. Worth the risk of being reprimanded in my opinion.
Good point but still....you'd have servers doing the bare minimum required so as not to get fired. No one would go above and beyond, ever, for anyone.
That's just not true. People go above and beyond because they want to not because they expecting tips in other industries. If the culture of the service industry changes people are still going to be knocking the service out the park cause they love the job their doing. People who do it just for the money won't (just like in other industries).
