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@trappedintime Well stated.
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Originally Posted by trappedintime
Originally Posted by rojanjon
I think the inflated prices of the Infrared pack we saw for some time is a great example of what I'm talking about. They played fool with the release for a while, stalling, creating rumors, hype built and built. There you have as you call the "secondary market" price hike.Originally Posted by trappedintime
Prices would skyrocket where? Everyone knows the secondary market for the grape/laney pack (if and when it drops) will be one of the most sought after in a long time. Don't fool yourself, hypebeasts are crawling all over anything Jordan releases. A last minute release isn't really going to change that one way or another.
Hypebeasts are not crawling all over everything that Jordan releases to the extent that we are discussing here. For example, the Bordeauxs did not sell for $400+ at any point as the YOTR did. So, obviously there will always be a different degree of "crawling" for the different releases.
If anticipation builds and the release is suspended or drawn out I see the "hype" hittin' some ridiculous levels.
To answer your question, which you basically answered yourself, the prices I'm referring to would obviously be outside of the major retail chains as it is their policy to sell at MSRP.
I suppose you are right, but I think there are other factors at play, especially with hypebeasts. Kanye's obsession with the Infrared VIs has pushed them to the top of the hypebeast manifest, and I think that's part of the reason they remain so expensive on the secondary market. Then again it was an OG colorway that he won his first championship in, so perhaps I'm overanalyzing the factors at play.
The only area I disagree with you fully is your example of the Bordeaux vs YOTR VII. I don't think it's fair to compare a GR like the Bordeaux against the LE YOTR where there were only a few thousand pairs released. Hype for these limited releases will always trump those of a GR. Would a Grape/Laney pack actually be limited? Perhaps so, but it seems like this year JB is trying to maximize profits and satisfy custies with as many GRs as possible (and in pretty large quantities for a GR). I've been able to get every retro release with ease this year, and even the YOTR wasn't that hard. I think my store had 24 pairs and about 30 people who showed up to grab them.
I don't know if JB cares or not, but they obviously are aware of the demand that's been created in the mainstream the past couple years, and I think in general they've tried to make sure true collectors and loyal customers don't get screwed if possible.
Originally Posted by trappedintime
Originally Posted by rojanjon
I think the inflated prices of the Infrared pack we saw for some time is a great example of what I'm talking about. They played fool with the release for a while, stalling, creating rumors, hype built and built. There you have as you call the "secondary market" price hike.Originally Posted by trappedintime
Prices would skyrocket where? Everyone knows the secondary market for the grape/laney pack (if and when it drops) will be one of the most sought after in a long time. Don't fool yourself, hypebeasts are crawling all over anything Jordan releases. A last minute release isn't really going to change that one way or another.
Hypebeasts are not crawling all over everything that Jordan releases to the extent that we are discussing here. For example, the Bordeauxs did not sell for $400+ at any point as the YOTR did. So, obviously there will always be a different degree of "crawling" for the different releases.
If anticipation builds and the release is suspended or drawn out I see the "hype" hittin' some ridiculous levels.
To answer your question, which you basically answered yourself, the prices I'm referring to would obviously be outside of the major retail chains as it is their policy to sell at MSRP.
I suppose you are right, but I think there are other factors at play, especially with hypebeasts. Kanye's obsession with the Infrared VIs has pushed them to the top of the hypebeast manifest, and I think that's part of the reason they remain so expensive on the secondary market. Then again it was an OG colorway that he won his first championship in, so perhaps I'm overanalyzing the factors at play.
The only area I disagree with you fully is your example of the Bordeaux vs YOTR VII. I don't think it's fair to compare a GR like the Bordeaux against the LE YOTR where there were only a few thousand pairs released. Hype for these limited releases will always trump those of a GR. Would a Grape/Laney pack actually be limited? Perhaps so, but it seems like this year JB is trying to maximize profits and satisfy custies with as many GRs as possible (and in pretty large quantities for a GR). I've been able to get every retro release with ease this year, and even the YOTR wasn't that hard. I think my store had 24 pairs and about 30 people who showed up to grab them.
I don't know if JB cares or not, but they obviously are aware of the demand that's been created in the mainstream the past couple years, and I think in general they've tried to make sure true collectors and loyal customers don't get screwed if possible.
Originally Posted by DRO3000
@trappedintime: I agree with everything you said except the first statement about the Infrared VI's. Theyve been hot longer than Kanye's been around and I know for me and a lot of older JB fans the infrared VI's are my favorite Jordan shoe and colorway.
Originally Posted by DRO3000
@trappedintime: I agree with everything you said except the first statement about the Infrared VI's. Theyve been hot longer than Kanye's been around and I know for me and a lot of older JB fans the infrared VI's are my favorite Jordan shoe and colorway.